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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: daniel b on March 29, 2008, 05:01:44 pm
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One of the lads left the pole unattended for a sec and it blew over with a gust of wind and broke section 1 of the pole :'( after only 2 weeks of having it, Alex if you read this i did send you an email/tried too ring fri askin for a price for a new section 1 can you let me know as i need to order ASAP.
Thanks
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That's gutting :(
I've done that in the past with a Universal pole, propped it up and as I turned my back it blew over, snapped the top section and ripped the aluminium gooseneck out, felt very unhappy with myself.
We can have one out by courier first thing Monday morning, should get to you by Tuesday. I will get Kirsty to contact you.
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so these poles do break then, from what i had read ( mainly from luke ) they were indestructable ( or as close as you could get ), which to be honest was my main point in looking at them as i like the idea of things lasting ( my unger ali pole for example )
how strong are they then ? ? ? ? as i use a fishing pole for every day use, which is ok, but after 6 months its looking worn, the point of me mentioning the fishing pole is i know how to use modular and look after them
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If the SL2 would have been at 44' or 60', and then blew over onto something on the ground, I can easily imagine it breaking. I think every pole would break under those same conditions. :)
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how strong are they then ? ? ? ? as i use a fishing pole for every day use, which is ok, but after 6 months its looking worn, the point of me mentioning the fishing pole is i know how to use modular and look after them
They are very strong for the class of pole, but every pole has it's limits :)
I have been using the SL2 for 10 months now and the joints are showing virtually no wear, but I do use PTFE protector regularly. They are greatly superior in longevity than converted fishing poles.
Shame you can't see one that has been in use for a good amount of time to compare the wear. Squeaky has one that he uses all the time on domestic work (and has had it for about 6 months), do you live near him?
If you fancy a trip to Cornwall you could have a look at my 10 month old one and even compare it against the Emporium pole that I also have.
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Alex
im planning a trip down to cornwall in the campervan, i was thinking of popping in, just to have a nosey around ;)
cheers for the reply, it would be for a job i do 4 times a year, so wear and tear isnt a issue, it was mainly if i dropped a peice of pole on the floor ( for example ) on a fishing pole the end would chip ( i know its easy to stop and i have, a few wraps of insulation tape and it protects the ends really well )
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alex
i phoned your place last week to reserve a sl2 pole and left a message on the phone with my number for you or kirsty to get in touch to comfirm that it has been reserved has one been kept for me??
rhys
email
rhysaharries@hotmail.com
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Alex
I am interested in buying an SL-2 for the weight factor. But have never seen one in action, do you know if there is a product user in the NW of england that would let me see/try before I buy as 'tis a lot of money for something that may not be suitable for me.
Steve a
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Alex
im planning a trip down to cornwall in the campervan, i was thinking of popping in, just to have a nosey around ;)
cheers for the reply, it would be for a job i do 4 times a year, so wear and tear isnt a issue, it was mainly if i dropped a peice of pole on the floor ( for example ) on a fishing pole the end would chip ( i know its easy to stop and i have, a few wraps of insulation tape and it protects the ends really well )
It would be great to meet you. Super-Lites have a shock-absorbing protecta-ring on the base of each section which does protect against alot of abuse. I'm always dropping pieces when I'm using it (not from height!) and they survive very well.
alex
i phoned your place last week to reserve a sl2 pole and left a message on the phone with my number for you or kirsty to get in touch to comfirm that it has been reserved has one been kept for me??
rhys
email
rhysaharries@hotmail.com
Hi Rhys
I've just checked my master list and you're on it so Kirsty must have emailed me with your details. Sorry not to get back to you directly but I can confirm your SL-X has been reserved for you.
Alex
I am interested in buying an SL-2 for the weight factor. But have never seen one in action, do you know if there is a product user in the NW of england that would let me see/try before I buy as 'tis a lot of money for something that may not be suitable for me.
Steve a
Hi Steve
If you say exactly where you are in the North West, maybe some of the users here on line will be able to let you have a look. We could also have a look through our records and see if we have a client near you who would be willing to demo it.
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Alex- I would also be interested in having a look at an sl2 in action before I buy.
I am based in north yorkshire- Harrogate.
Do you have any in this area.
Thanks Robbie
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Alex- I would also be interested in having a look at an sl2 in action before I buy.
I am based in north yorkshire- Harrogate.
Do you have any in this area.
Thanks Robbie
I'll have a look and get back to you.
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Alex- I would also be interested in having a look at an sl2 in action before I buy.
I am based in north yorkshire- Harrogate.
Do you have any in this area.
Thanks Robbie
I have checked with my Internet order records (I only have these, the Office will have all of the telephone orders on file) and the nearest client so far is in Preston, which is not that close to you. One of the problems is that some of these have been sold through distributors and we do not know where all the current users are. I will let you know if we find anyone closer.
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Alex- I would also be interested in having a look at an sl2 in action before I buy.
I am based in north yorkshire- Harrogate.
Do you have any in this area.
Thanks Robbie
I have checked with my Internet order records (I only have these, the Office will have all of the telephone orders on file) and the nearest client so far is in Preston, which is not that close to you. One of the problems is that some of these have been sold through distributors and we do not know where all the current users are. I will let you know if we find anyone closer.
Alex I am based in Preston. as luck would have it. Please can you give me the details or have him ring me on 07710905555.
Thank you in advance.
Steve a
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Alex- I would also be interested in having a look at an sl2 in action before I buy.
I am based in north yorkshire- Harrogate.
Do you have any in this area.
Thanks Robbie
I have checked with my Internet order records (I only have these, the Office will have all of the telephone orders on file) and the nearest client so far is in Preston, which is not that close to you. One of the problems is that some of these have been sold through distributors and we do not know where all the current users are. I will let you know if we find anyone closer.
Alex I am based in Preston. as luck would have it. Please can you give me the details or have him ring me on 07710905555.
Thank you in advance.
Steve a
I'll give you a ring in the morning.
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Appreciated, Thank you.
Steve a
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Thanks Alex, I am looking to buy something in the next month as I have a rather large (high) school to tackle in may half term.
Thanks Robbie
Clearshine Ltd
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At Windex on friday I had a few mates with me and was taking them around looking at different poles. We got to the Omnipole stand and they were displaying the Emporium Ultra Lite. Anyway basically my mates were really uni impressed that at how fragile the pole felt ( can squash the pole sections with your hand ) but the SL2 is nothing like that. The extension sections are just solid, Luke
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I didnt see any extension sections on Glyns stand.
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I think youve misunderstood me :) Was just stating a seperate fact about the SL2, that the extension sections are very tough! But the tapered sections on the SL2 dont squash like the Emporium, Luke
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As this topic of Dans shows, all fishing type modulars can break under different conditions, the fact that there is give or squash makes no difference to the work they do, and is designed into the poles to prevent breakage. If they didnt give they would break.
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Design feature or not,... if 1 squashes and 1 doesn't,... I know where I'd be sending my money!!!
;D ;D ;D
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In my humble opinion :) the Emporium feels more like a fishing pole, whereas the SL2 feels more refined and "changed" for the job. Jeff is probably the most experienced "user" of these type of modular poles and can probably get away with having a weaker but lighter pole as he is great at using them ( you should see him putting one up, its like part of his body!!! ) But for the likes of me and many other people we need something very tough so only the SL2 has that toughness for a stupid rough worker like me!!!! I just would feel like the Emporium would break if I used it alot.
But I would still be happy to own an Emporium, but would always be wanting an SL2. The Emporium is cheaper and just slightly lighter but in my books the SL2 is already light enough and that extra strength hasnt come at a compromise on weight. I dont want to sound like a SL2 fan boy!!! as that would be closed minded. I want the best tools for my work and believe that the SL2 is best for me and also the majority of people coming into the modular world.
There is already quite alot of negative feeling and prejudice towards the modular "fishing" style poles so maybe it would help if people were buying the strongest modular on the market. Do you see where Im coming from?
If I ever need another modular I may well consider an Emporium and was very impressed by it when Jeff brought it round, especially by the look of it, I even wanted to have a swap, mainly because it looked nice and had protection rings ( which the SL2 has now! ). But after thinking about it more and seeing the Emporium a few times I believe that the SL2 is the best pole for a standard user and especially somebody like Daniel ( owner of a larger cleaning company - lots of rough workers ), Luke
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Thats a good and fair precis of poles Luke. I remember that there was something about the Emp you liked. From a user point I dont think there is much to distinguish between the Emp or the S2
I have recently restarted using the F16s and cannot really fault them for the price, last time I looked £250, which is half the current price of modulars. Just checked with an F16 User and he is still using his although he has bent his N0 8 section ??? and had to pay £70 rip off for a replacement 8 section from Stapely water gardens , he did say it was his own fault. ( didnt even know they sold fishing pole)
I dont think either of the NEW modular suppliers are quite there yet. Glyns tease sounds interesting.
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Thats a good and fair precis of poles Luke. I remember that there was something about the Emp you liked. From a user point I dont think there is much to distinguish between the Emp or the S2
I have recently restarted using the F16s and cannot really fault them for the price, last time I looked £250, which is half the current price of modulars. Just checked with an F16 User and he is still using his although he has bent his N0 8 section ??? and had to pay £70 rip off for a replacement 8 section from Stapely water gardens , he did say it was his own fault. ( didnt even know they sold fishing pole)
I dont think either of the NEW modular suppliers are quite there yet. Glyns tease sounds interesting.
Hi Jeff,
I think that the reason that fishing poles are still cheaper is that not only are they made by the thousands, but also they are not as well made (for the job), do not contain as much carbon fibre and are not as purpose built. Having said that I would happily work with a converted fishing pole (and have done so for 18 months prior to the SL2), but I would rather sell something more suitable for the job. Eight months into selling the SL2 we have had so few problems with them as a retail product that it makes conventional poles look less reliable.
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Alex, or Jeff, have you ever come across a protector tip that anglers use to guide one section into another? I'm asking because being lazy i tend to grab my stacked S2 from the van and rest it nose first on the ground whilst i slide the sections out. This of course is wearing the biggest secton away on the tip. I'm sure i have seen a rubber tip that sits inside the tube and protrudes beyond the wall somewhere? Maybe i can reshape a bung instead.
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Yes there is a fitting that does this I will look it up for you. :)
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DJW The purpose made protector tip you want was on the new Halo/Emporium poles on the Omni site at Windex.
Any fishing pole is OK to lets say 35ft. Its when you go higher you need light and stiff.
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Thats a good and fair precis of poles Luke. I remember that there was something about the Emp you liked. From a user point I dont think there is much to distinguish between the Emp or the S2
I have recently restarted using the F16s and cannot really fault them for the price, last time I looked £250, which is half the current price of modulars. Just checked with an F16 User and he is still using his although he has bent his N0 8 section ??? and had to pay £70 rip off for a replacement 8 section from Stapely water gardens , he did say it was his own fault. ( didnt even know they sold fishing pole)
I dont think either of the NEW modular suppliers are quite there yet. Glyns tease sounds interesting.
Hi Jeff,
I think that the reason that fishing poles are still cheaper is that not only are they made by the thousands, but also they are not as well made (for the job), do not contain as much carbon fibre and are not as purpose built. Having said that I would happily work with a converted fishing pole (and have done so for 18 months prior to the SL2), but I would rather sell something more suitable for the job. Eight months into selling the SL2 we have had so few problems with them as a retail product that it makes conventional poles look less reliable.
Hi Alex you come from a selling/profit view, I come from a diy user/consumer point of view. Fishing poles are still ok to use to say 35ft-45ft with care. Its if you want to go higher that you need the stiffness/lightness.
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Thats a good and fair precis of poles Luke. I remember that there was something about the Emp you liked. From a user point I dont think there is much to distinguish between the Emp or the S2
I have recently restarted using the F16s and cannot really fault them for the price, last time I looked £250, which is half the current price of modulars. Just checked with an F16 User and he is still using his although he has bent his N0 8 section ??? and had to pay £70 rip off for a replacement 8 section from Stapely water gardens , he did say it was his own fault. ( didnt even know they sold fishing pole)
I dont think either of the NEW modular suppliers are quite there yet. Glyns tease sounds interesting.
Hi Jeff,
I think that the reason that fishing poles are still cheaper is that not only are they made by the thousands, but also they are not as well made (for the job), do not contain as much carbon fibre and are not as purpose built. Having said that I would happily work with a converted fishing pole (and have done so for 18 months prior to the SL2), but I would rather sell something more suitable for the job. Eight months into selling the SL2 we have had so few problems with them as a retail product that it makes conventional poles look less reliable.
Hi Alex you come from a selling/profit view, I come from a diy user/consumer point of view. Fishing poles are still ok to use to say 35ft-45ft with care. Its if you want to go higher that you need the stiffness/lightness.
Your right Jeff and that is exactly my point of view. If I was simply using them I would make do with a converted fishing pole and accept its limitations and need for care. Because we are selling them to other people we need to ensure that there is a level of quality and design integrity that is up to the job for retail purposes.
Having said that, now I have the luxury of an SL2 I would not swap it for a fishing pole. In fact in my vehicle I carry an original SL1, but I never use it because I prefer the reliable strength of the SL2.