Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: geefree on March 29, 2008, 01:35:35 am
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Hi,
Sometimes its good to share your feelings with like minded people , so here goes,
Are you proud of what you are doing , and have acheived?
or do you still feel littlle down because, people in general think... oh he is only a Window cleaner.?
Do you feel good about your work, and the way you have built a successful business, only for others to say..
oh he is only a Window cleaner.?
Do you get asked ... "oh how are things going" ?.... and looked down at .. at the same time.. and not really listened to?... because......
oh he is only a Window cleaner.?
It may be me ... and you guys will tell me.. ::)
I cant shake it off, i feel, although i am doing well, i feel like i am being looked upon as someone who has lost his marbles......
Why is that....?
one very close friend told me he is happy and proud that i left my sales job.. on the spot...
and started this .and built a round in a year and a half..... happy for me..
other people close / and fairly close to me give me the impression that i have taken 1 step forward, and 10 steps back..
i am very proud of what i do, and one day i will lough loudest..
but for now, i find it hard sometimes.
not business wise.
close people wise.
Anyone else had this , or is it me ?
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EmbarasseD some times if I am honest feel embasassed, I dont know why, most of the time it does not happen now but every now and again I feel really bad saying what I do maybe it is the old stigma I dont know.
Most of the time I am very proud, if I meet old freinds they laugh if I say I own a wc company and if they laugh at what i do I let them, as they say what they do and I know I am doing far far better, the silent is a great feeling no need to boast
When this myth has gone so will the feeling.
Being honest here I do ok for My family and myself thats what really matters to me.
love to hear other people views.
Ian
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Hi Ian,
I think its the old w/c thing... there is still a stigma attached to it,,!
The old......... Beer money thing.
I Will tell you alittle short story.
Before Christmas , My girlfriend and i , went looking around for a leather suite.
she is very choosy and very designer orientated,.... but we had to have one NOW! :)
so we went to a suite designer outlet , and saw one on offer, delivery for xmas......
i had a little barter session with the sales guy... and reduced the price....
on the way to the desk ...(it was a cash sale by the way)......... he said to me .. "what do you do for a living" ?,
I said i am on the dole... because i thought "bit nosey".....
My girlfriend said......." he is a window cleaner and why do you ask?
He laughed....... because i had just spent £@@@@
and said ... "well you will be on the dole if you are a window cleaner.!
these are the type of things i mean and why i posted.
confidence dops.
gary
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You know. To be perfectly honest - I'm proud to be a window cleaner.
I mean, I work outside, when I want, I'm my own boss, I actually enjoy cleaning windows - and to top it all I earn enough to afford a good standard of living.
So, when asked what do you do for a living, I proudly say 'I clean windows', and wait for the smirk. They can smirk as much as they like, but I know I'm in a better position than them - So, I smirk the longest ;D
Never feel ashamed of what your profession is labeled as - be proud of what you have achieved !
And shout with pride.....I CLEAN WINDOWS, but also the frames, sills and doors too ;) ;D ;)
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A friend of a friend said to me once--- YOU ARE ONLY A CLEANER --- i told him no get you facts right I am a-- WINDOW CLEANER - he soon shut up when i told him this..
I live in a 5 bed bungalow, my mortgage will be paid by the time I am 44 years old (5 years time ), I have a heated swimming pool, I own my own astra van, i own a 4yr old 4x4 and my wife has a new car every 2 years..... i won,t keep going.
Like i say i am a --WINDOW CLEANER-- AND PROUD OF IT
Darren
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I tend to be a little embarrased but i shouldnt be as when i look back to what i had when i was employed and what i have now the difference is huge i even have days off when i need to and can now afford to go abroad for holidays
The freedom to me though is worth more than all the material gain would never go back to employment now as this freedom is worth too much to me
I am proud of the fact that from nothing i have built up a business that turnsover enough to pay for all these things and if i want i can build it more i can
Dean
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It doesn't bother me one way or the other but my 16 year old son is really embarrassed about it and if I take him to school I have to drop him off up a side street.
He says its because his mates will take the P if they find out.
I do have a mate who still thinks the George Formby / banjo jokes are funny and they really get on my nerves.
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A friend of a friend said to me once--- YOU ARE ONLY A CLEANER --- i told him no get you facts right I am a-- WINDOW CLEANER - he soon shut up when i told him this..
I live in a 5 bed bungalow, my mortgage will be paid by the time I am 44 years old (5 years time ), I have a heated swimming pool, I own my own astra van, i own a 4yr old 4x4 and my wife has a new car every 2 years..... i won,t keep going.
Like i say i am a --WINDOW CLEANER-- AND PROUD OF IT
Darren
I would not justify myself like that. I am what I am. I pay my way, I dont claim benefits and if I sometimes feel like people are looking down their noses at me through my choice of job, then I remember quietly what I have achieved.
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The George Formby song, if i had a pound every time i heard someone whistle the tune, I would never have to work again.
Darren
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A friend of a friend said to me once--- YOU ARE ONLY A CLEANER --- i told him no get you facts right I am a-- WINDOW CLEANER - he soon shut up when i told him this..
I live in a 5 bed bungalow, my mortgage will be paid by the time I am 44 years old (5 years time ), I have a heated swimming pool, I own my own astra van, i own a 4yr old 4x4 and my wife has a new car every 2 years..... i won,t keep going.
Like i say i am a --WINDOW CLEANER-- AND PROUD OF IT
Darren
I would not justify myself like that. I am what I am. I pay my way, I dont claim benefits and if I sometimes feel like people are looking down their noses at me through my choice of job, then I remember quietly what I have achieved.
Trust me I was not justifing myself, just letting him know window cleaners are hard working, make a living and not at the bottom of the work chain like some peolple think.
Darren
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A friend of a friend said to me once--- YOU ARE ONLY A CLEANER --- i told him no get you facts right I am a-- WINDOW CLEANER - he soon shut up when i told him this..
I live in a 5 bed bungalow, my mortgage will be paid by the time I am 44 years old (5 years time ), I have a heated swimming pool, I own my own astra van, i own a 4yr old 4x4 and my wife has a new car every 2 years..... i won,t keep going.
Like i say i am a --WINDOW CLEANER-- AND PROUD OF IT
Darren
dead right ,LOUD and PROUD
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To be honest I would say yes I do get embarassed...despite knowing that I am building my own business and have freedoms, choice etc, etc...
I suppose that I will never shake off these things in my head but in the main that is what they are....nonsense in my head.
I have moved to a different country and having one business fail have started a window cleaning business...the fact that I do not take anything from the country that I now call home and pay my taxes and all other payments that I am required to make...makes me feel good....I am a foreinger in another land but I now stand up on my own 2 feet and feel good for this alone...but I would imagine that I shall always feel embarassed about being a window cleaner.
Just the way it is....
Cheers
Dave.
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i guess im embarressed o has if people ask what i do i say run a cleaning business, i do other stuff but 80% of my income is window cleaning.
People just look at you as if its a poop job and friends comment all the time like you rjust a window cleaner haha
but at the end of the day im a proffesional window cleaner with a uniform and sighn written van, i do things different tham most window cleaners round my way so i see my self has a business man and i think like a business man!!
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All my real mates and (more importantly family) have no problem at all with what I do and think of me no differently to when I worked in a bank.
As for other people....frankly I really couldn't give a stuff what they think.
As somebody once said: Those who matter don't mind.
And those who mind don't matter.
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Embarrassed, why? Are other peoples perceptions so important? If anyone has a problem with me being a window cleaner, the problem is all theirs, I want no part of it.
The only thing that does matter is how you perceive yourself.
It becomes pretty obvious when you start reading the earnings threads that some of us have problems with their self esteem.
I'M ONLY A WINDOW CLEANER BUT I EARN XXXX, is a common direction for these threads to go.
We can't all be the best, most professional, highest earners. I understand this, just like I know I will never play rugby for Wales.
I will never be the best at anything. But hey!, I'm think I'm an OK guy.
Be happy with who you are, life's too short to worry about other peoples perceptions. Dai
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I am very proud of the fact I have built a small business that has value...
However I do find myself embarrased whenever someone asks me wht I do for a living..
I have tried,
'I own a small business'
'I am self employed'
'I own a window maintenance company'
rather than
'Im a window cleaner'
'I own a window cleaning business'
Maybe when I have the nice big house and flash car I will be able to hold my head up and say Im a window cleaner...
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I am trying to build up my business to go full time. This makes me proud, because it is going well (so far).
I feel embarassed when people ask me how it is going because you can tell they think you are mad! Crazy I know. ::)
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I'm actually proud of what I do, it amuses me that no doubt some of the workers in some of the various offices I clean will look down on me as just a 'menial' worker but for the most part, my income will far exceed their own :)
I have customers in high flying jobs who I would consider clueless and inept, ditto some friends who are in positions of some importance, but again, in so many areas they just don't have a clue.
I'm also the groundsman for my cricket club, too long a story to relate here, but some of my fellow committee members had to chip in and help with the groundwork...
One - a headmaster - was cutting the strip for the following weekends game...he couldn't understand why it wasn't cutting any grass....sigh! I lowered the blades for him. :-\
Prior to that I had to show them how to operate the mower...pull handle to start it...grip lever to make it go...complete doughnuts !
And we are talking headmasters, company directors and the like.
And on the outfield gang mowers, all powered off the PTO on a small tractor...well, that was just too complicated to risk letting one of them use it.
I can strip a car down and rebuild it, (not a modern day BMW mind!) I'm skilled in many area's of the building industry, I am vastly practical...I look down on these headmasters and company directors....they aren't in my class!!!! 8) lol.
I played Squash (to just under county level) for 20 years, as I played to a good standard I would often thrash others in open club competitions, ergo I was very much respected because of my ability on court.
Squash was a game that attracted people from all walks of life, yo uwould go on court and play your game, shower, change and go for a drink with the guy you'd just played.
Nobody had a clue what the other did for a living, by the time you had got around to discussing what was done for a living, respect had been borne on the squash court.
With some of course, when it came around to telling them you were a window cleaner you could see the double blink of surprise, but the respect remained, especially as in some cases I was also the coach they came too for lessons! ;D
Your own self perception is the most important thing, especially when you find yourself comparing yourself to someone else....you can end out like Ronnie Corbett in the 'I know my place' Sketch (alongside John Cleese - bowler hatted toff - and Ronnie Barker - middle class man - very clever sketch actually...
Ian
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i am pround of being a window cleaner and ive never felt embarassed about that . ive had full support from family & friends and the amount of people whos asked me for work as been huge . I left a really well paid job to be my OWN BOSS and ive never looked back . i started with only 6 houses but now im doing really well yes im really pround of what ive done for myself . :) :)
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Am i embarassed, never really thought about it, am i proud, never really thought abot it, am i happy earning good money being at home with the kids in the mornings & after school not working weekends or nights, YES.
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basically if i go full time into htis i am leaving what looks likea good career behind me. i have final salry pension, paid sick leave, holiday entitlement, college course, work for a very healthy company who have ben good with me.
at end of the day i am not unhappy in my job but i had last year something changed my outlook on life. it's no longe rbaout the job etc it's about me and what i want and be happy etc.
make my own decisions
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Some great answers.
Having started my own business in 1980 I can honestly say I can only feel pride in what I do.I have built a strong company with great customers who trust me 100%. Thats what I try to always put in.
Lots of people out there who hate or are not happy in what they do for a living.
I dont give a stuff what other people think, I provide for my family and keep a roof over our heads.
Dont ever feel embarrassed about your work.
Regards
Steve
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i started window cleaning because it was a quick way out of a job that i had grown to hate (printing)and because the outlay to get up and running was minimal.I didnt think i would spend more than a few months or a year at most doing it and viewed it more as a way of earning a living wage while looking at other careers or training.Somehow it didnt work out like that and it just sort of became a small business without that much effort on my part .Now i am just concentrating on refining the round further and maybe investing in some gear for cons cleaning.All in all i am well happy with my lot :)all the usual pro,s of being self employed outweigh the con,s imo.Proud? well i aint doing the "shout it from the rooftops" bit ,on the other hand tho i sure aint embarassed either ;D
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I am not embarrased at all, infact i find peoples perceptions amusing & i use them to my benefit & amusment.
As far as customers are concerned I actualy encourage their perception that it's a tough job & making ends meet is sometimes a struggle ( while i'm proudley smiling inside ). Most (not all) customers would dread the thought that my hourley rate is 2-3 times that of theirs, i work when i want, hardley have any debt etc.etc. As long as they think they are in a better position than me & i am only their w/cer they will happily pay me & not moan when i put my prices up. I have an excellent relationship with all my custy's BUT, I'm sure if many of them knew exactly what i earned from them & the easy-going lifestyle that the job gives me then i think this would affect their attitude towards paying me what they do. I am smartley dressed, polite, friendly, professional & good at my job BUT I would never dream of letting a custy into my little secret ;)
As far as friends etc. go i just grin back & say- I know, but where else would i get 150 to 200 quid a day with no stress, minimal overheads, cake & tea thrown at me all day, every weekend off, work when I want, my own boss, have total control of my own finances, monthly income constantley growing with no effort etc.etc. After a (usualy long & though provoking silence) the conversation swiftley moves on funnily enough ;D
Never be concerned with what others think, there isn't enough time in life. As long as you are happy & the job gives you what you require then that's what counts IMO. ;)
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Never be concerned with what others think, there isn't enough time in life. As long as you are happy & the job gives you what you require then that's what counts IMO. ;)
100% correct ;D
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For the ones who are in the "keeping up with the Jones's" circle there is only one outcome to their lives, a sure sharp road to constant pressure, an un-happy home life & usualy lots of debt! I know many people like this, i just pitty them ;)
Tony
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My Grandad used to say he was a Diamond Polisher
they never used to ask about his money then
If he said Window cleaner he used to have people try and justify his earnings
I have had it now I started off a window cleaner then IT gone back to W\C for sanity
people say to me, my god what a change of direction?
it cost me my marrige and that I am ashamed of that and only that.
I am now happy and chilled before I was stressed and unhappy, Go Figure
I would rather them look down at me and laugh at me behind my back for working in all weathers
are they really on £25 - £40 an hour with no one but themselves to answer too?
If they are then we are Equals if not let them live there life in there litlle narrow minded world and we can have the last laugh
Regards J
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hi
YOU ARE NOT ONLY A WINDOW CLEANER! your friends if employed are ONLY doctors ,accountants office workers, sales men / women plumbers, brickies , managers printers, designers etc etc or what ever politicly correct or important title they can think up.
Listen be more confident You run your own business ,yes its labour intensive but you do the lot so you work in sales and marketing , admin , payrole , bookkeeping management labour , procurement etc etc etc don't ever value somebody elses job more highly than your own after all you now have experiance in many more fields than you did when you did the 9/5 job so get on with it and forget about what people are thinking, and think more about selling your own business, cos thats wot u r, a BUSINESS MAN!!
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try telling people you are a vision technican sounds miles better
lol
I have said as few times I was a vision enhancement technican a few times they tended to get baffled and say that sounds really technical ;D
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ALL MEN ARE EQUAL!
SOME ARE JUST MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS!
;)
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the so called stigma of being a window cleaner is actually a positive because for as long as people say oh he,s only a window cleaner then it obviously puts people off getting involved in what is a cracking business , let them look down on you who cares
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the so called stigma of being a window cleaner is actually a positive because for as long as people say oh he,s only a window cleaner then it obviously puts people off getting involved in what is a cracking business , let them look down on you who cares
Spot on!
But also ... don't be defined by your occupation - ask yourself: what kind of husband, father, son, brother, uncle, friend am I?
Way more important! IMHO
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who cares what people think life too short!!
rather be concerning myself with earning good money on my own terms
and enjoying my life :)
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when i pick the kids up from school...i often wonder how many other fathers have finished,and whether they have earn't x amount....also has their day been as stress free as mine...
but i do get a bit annoyed sometimes....eg i am moving house hopefully soon..and i have been shopping around for different mortgage deals...
anyway i was talking to a financial advisor earlier ... his attitude changed when i told him i'm a w/c , infact he was quite rood....
i felt like putting him straight....but i'v got used to letting it go over my head...
each year that i progress my smile of satisfaction grows
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in 2006 I was in Tampa Bay Florida doing a TV comercial with Kim and Aggee,very nice there ok! ;D but it was there manager, lady :P after having some drinks with her,put me down by say just that,yer but u are only a window cleaner >:( I can tell u guys I pulled no punches in what I said to her,how very dare she, she no like me no more ;D tough she sounded as common as muck just because,she has people on her books that are very famous,
so I dont care who or what they are dont slag as off for what we do.or are
so it dont just happen to u guys I am right with you ;D
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If I'm honest....both.
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Very proud! ;D
Top of the world me.
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My daughter is proud that her dad is a cleaner/window cleaner/carpet cleaner/ etc.
We clean for a lot of her friends houses and I'm not a bit embarrassed about it, neither is she, we have 4 vans, all the latest equipment, everyone is uniformed and professional ........... and we do a good job and have a good reputation, why should I, or anyone be embarrassed about that?
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We are not alone in having doubts.
Actors, even the top well known ones such as Kim and Agee spend most of their life unemployed. This leads to insecurity and having to constantly suck up to producers etc. Meanwhile self esteem is built by putting others down, such as Terry.
Have you heard Teachers moan about how undervalued they are by society? Market traders can't even get van insurance. Farmers incomes are below the national poverty level. Doctors get abuse on home visits- ambulance men and fire people regulary get called out to have stones thrown at them.
For the most part we're ignored. Good.
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Very embarassed for the first six months and like Mr Thorpe it was the only way to get out of a dead end printing job. I felt very sad for my seven year old at school too. However over a year down the line and i couldn't care less what people think! I had to double check my figures this week for four and a half days work because i couldn't believe it. Total control over my life, no more crummy shifts, no more petty rules, no more pleading for holiday dates six months in advance, no compulsory overtime, much less pressure, hold my daughters hand on the way to school. Embarrased? not any more.
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The George Formby song, if i had a pound every time i heard someone whistle the tune, I would never have to work again.
Darren
Just take it on the chin mate ;)
I even have the george Formby song as my ringtone and it don't bother me what people think of my profession.
You know as well as I do that you would not be happy doing the jobs that some of your customers do and you can have the last laugh when your walking away from the person that thinks your just a window cleaner and thinking to yourself. you earn less than £10 per hour probably a lot less, you will probably be made redundant within a year, you have to watch your finances as you are on a fixed wage and tied to work from 9-5, you have to ask for permission to take a holiday and probably to go to the bog as well. You have to do as you are told and not answer back. I could go on, so who's the dogsbody.
Not us. We are window cleaners. I work from 6-2 out of choice and in summer finishing at 2 is heaven as there is about 8 hours of daylight left, to go fishing, spend with the family, do what I want and if I want a day off I take it. Never forgetting though, that I am running a business and the business still needs to service customers to be viable, so its not all rose coloured glasses, but it sure is better than most jobs.
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in a nutshell....it's the time off or choice of hours that makes our job great... if we need extra then work more ...if we don't need to then work less... if we want to work more ..then we can
so we are in controll....the rewards are really good if we put in that little bit extra..
being in controll is far better than being controlled.......!!!!!
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in a nutshell....it's the time off or choice of hours that makes our job great... if we need extra then work more ...if we don't need to then work less... if we want to work more ..then we can
so we are in controll....the rewards are really good if we put in that little bit extra..
being in controll is far better than being controlled.......!!!!!
Just what I meant to say. ;D
I love my job!.
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final year end pay slip 27k contentment in job nil not seeing kids in the mornings or weekends its not right...friends may think iam mad putting all i have on the line but the truth is if i carried on working for the 4th biggest retailer(the food specialist) i would have lost the lot any way ....i am proud of the work ive put in over the last 6 months so lets have no more of this ...ur all rolling in it anyway...i hope
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im very proud that i am a window cleaner, have been running my business just over 18 years.
Love it, cant think of a job id rather do,
love the fact of the money coming in, not much but enough to get by ;)
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suerly some things in life are richer than material things one of the first things that hit home to me on this forum was the only success in life was being able to live your life the way you want to live it matt i think . hit home with me even if he is a blues fan...good luck in the next round...just wish we had turned up!
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final year end pay slip 27k contentment in job nil not seeing kids in the mornings or weekends its not right...friends may think iam mad putting all i have on the line but the truth is if i carried on working for the 4th biggest retailer(the food specialist) i would have lost the lot any way ....i am proud of the work ive put in over the last 6 months so lets have no more of this ...ur all rolling in it anyway...i hope
you will exeeed that amount ...with much less hours... i mean the £27 ;)
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I love being a w/c , except when a custie says ,while you are here with your ladders could you change the bulb in our security light as we cant get up there or would you put that downpipe back up as it has come away from the gutter ,and you oblige them and then they pay you for the windows say thanks and close the door.I hate that.
bertie
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The great thing about this business is the degree of control you can exert over your work. You can choose your hours and which customers you do.
Compared to most small businesses who are completely the opposite its fantastic.
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except when a custie says ,while you are here with your ladders could you change the bulb in our security light as we cant get up there or would you put that downpipe back up as it has come away from the gutter ,and you oblige them and then they pay you for the windows say thanks and close the door.I hate that.
bertie
What more do you want? Money?
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Sexual favours? No thank you, have you seen most of my customers?
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What i love about my job is being able to take time off when i want, times like the christmas school plays and i get to see my kids perform.. Also knowing most of the other dads are only there because they have no job.
Great isn,t it
Darren
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Thanks for all your replies,
Good mixture, its easy fall into the mode of letting it get to us what other people think,
sometimes i am embarrassed, like if i have not seen someone in a while and they ask me what i do these days,... other times i am pleased with what i do.
Hopefully one day, i can look back and feel really proud that i have a business where i am envied.... like some of you guys on here, whom i admire and respect.
Thanks.
Gary.
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People that matter, don't mind.
And people that mind, dont matter.
I don't give a monkeys what people think of my job. And to be honest, i don't think many, if any really think about me and what i do with too much depth. What i do know is that all but one of my closest friends have all had to move out of my area because they can't handle, financially what it takes to buy property in my area. They've had to move out 50......150......300 miles out,away from their mates and family just to get a "foot on the ladder" Knowing that i didn't have to do that makes me bloody proud that i didn't have to up and leave all i know and luv. Had i not got into this game, i probably would have joined them, to be honest. I owe so much to this "frowned upon" way of life ;)
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A few years ago I had a big round in a small Kentish sea-side town. Everywhere I went people would smile and say hallo - it use to take me ages to do any shopping in the local Tesco's because everyone wanted to stop and pass the time of day.
Wonderful feeling :)
Proud? I suppose so.
Embarrassed? Never.
It just felt so good knowing I was a popular respected member of the community.
Cheers,
Ian
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i'm proud of where i am today, when i think i first started with 6 houses and it was only meant to be a temporary thing
embarassed? NEVER ;)
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my 12 year old son was proud today that he was out working with his dad he loves it and when he gets older he wants to take over from me :)
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my 12 year old son was proud today that he was out working with his dad he loves it and when he gets older he wants to take over from me :)
;D, I bet you was proud ;) I also have a 12 year old boy that wants to do the same. ;D
Ian
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my 12 year old son was proud today that he was out working with his dad he loves it and when he gets older he wants to take over from me :)
;D, I bet you was proud ;) I also have a 12 year old boy that wants to do the same. ;D
Ian
yes i was ian he never said he was board once and he loved it when i paid him it brought a huge smile to his face that he could buy a new game for his ds ;D
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my 12 year old son was proud today that he was out working with his dad he loves it and when he gets older he wants to take over from me :)
;D, I bet you was proud ;) I also have a 12 year old boy that wants to do the same. ;D
Ian
yes i was ian he never said he was board once and he loved it when i paid him it brought a huge smile to his face that he could buy a new game for his ds ;D
you made him work allday for £30, give him my number please ;)
jokes aside I would love my son to work with me,
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My son wouldn't, he has just started an apprentiship with an electrical contractor and constantly takes the pee. :)
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My son wouldn't, he has just started an apprentiship with an electrical contractor and constantly takes the pee. :)
lol, dont rise to it teens (which I am guessing he is dont listen to much they know to much 'so they think', he will realise this in time he may well be wrong to laugh
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Went to London yesterday and i asked him if he had any money on him "yeah sixty quid - more than you could ever earn!" Said that in front of his girlfriend bless him. Didn't tell him what i really earnt last week, luckily.
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how old do kids have to be to come out and work with you ???
my lad is 15 in april and big for his age,so physically he could do it
if i get the tank fitted in time i could have a two man set up working in time for summer
is there any legal implications for this ??? i would really like to give him a chance to earn some cash and to instill a bit of work ethic into him,also it would take some of the sting out of funding the next guitar ::)
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how old do kids have to be to come out and work with you ???
my lad is 15 in april and big for his age,so physically he could do it
if i get the tank fitted in time i could have a two man set up working in time for summer
is there any legal implications for this ??? i would really like to give him a chance to earn some cash and to instill a bit of work ethic into him,also it would take some of the sting out of funding the next guitar ::)
When my son was 15 he helped me out and was included on the insurance. May even work for kids younger than that.
You need to go to his school and ask for a permit for him to work, the insurance companies are OK with this and as long as you are not asking him to climb ladders or do other precarious things they accept it as work experience
Steve a
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nice one steve cheers ;D
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Embarrassed? Never
My mates think I got the best job in the world.
Window cleaning is not the best job ever for me but I love the fact I am self employ and can choose what hours I want to work.
It was not easy to get the works to begin with but it was worthwhile to get where I am now and I am proud of myself.
We should never be embarrassed of what we do. A friend of my girlfriend ask her was she embarrassed about me being a window cleaner for living as I can't be making a very good money just by cleaning window.
My Girlfriend No I not embarrassed. how much do your boyfriend make an hour? friendAbout £14 something like that. My Girlfriend he make roughly £40 to £60 an hour depend on the weather and what houses he got to cleaned. friend :o
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you are really quite cleaver................................................
you are wasted being a window cleaner
gets me every time