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Title: windows above porches
Post by: d.j windows on March 28, 2008, 01:52:04 pm

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Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: d.j windows on March 28, 2008, 01:53:03 pm
sorry , trying to insert pic showing how i would do windows above porches, but alas I am having no luck
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: d.j windows on March 28, 2008, 01:57:23 pm
I think I worked it out  :P
I use 2 sets of ladder limpets, these babies are really secure, its like walking up a staircase.
I sometimes use a pole if its really awkward but for most of the time this is the way i do it.
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: elite mike on March 28, 2008, 01:57:58 pm
if you are trad  
walk on roof, or pole them if to steep

regards
mike
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: d.j windows on March 28, 2008, 02:01:47 pm
Poling is not one of my better talents, just cant get the hang of it, streaks etc, I use the ettore gold reach and the ettore backflip and streaks galore, although did a few windows this morn with it and seem to be getting a bit better.
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: elite mike on March 28, 2008, 02:05:03 pm
keep practiceing  :D  :D
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: RO-Sheen on March 28, 2008, 04:09:23 pm
The old bloke in the porch doesnt look too amused!
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: daveappleby on March 28, 2008, 05:09:09 pm
if you are trad  
walk on roof, or pole them if to steep

regards
mike

you serious???!!!
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: Richy L on March 28, 2008, 05:12:06 pm
if you are trad 
walk on roof, or pole them if to steep

regards
mike

you serious???!!!


I take it you are a new window cleaner, or a straight to WFP window cleaner.
I'd say 90% of people have walked on roofs like this one at some point when trad.


May not be as safe as WFP, but its done
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: NWH on March 28, 2008, 05:32:54 pm
I think I worked it out  :P
I use 2 sets of ladder limpets, these babies are really secure, its like walking up a staircase.
I sometimes use a pole if its really awkward but for most of the time this is the way i do it.
No offense mate but this is 1 of many many reasons i went WFP,this comment might not help but it`s a fact.
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on March 28, 2008, 05:34:14 pm
if you are trad
walk on roof, or pole them if to steep

regards
mike

you serious???!!!


I take it you are a new window cleaner, or a straight to WFP window cleaner.
I'd say 90% of people have walked on roofs like this one at some point when trad.


May not be as safe as WFP, but its done
yup used to do loads of porch windows like that while standing on roof,i would do em one handed with fingertips of left hand jammed in that groove that runs under concrete sills ::)
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: d.j windows on March 28, 2008, 06:06:01 pm
On this particular occassion the lady of the house did not want me standing on her roof, actually get requested a to not do this.
Must be different over here in N Ireland, but yes I usually do walk on the roof, I was posting this to show another way of doing it specially for trads starting out with no one to foot the ladder
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: Jason Atwell on March 28, 2008, 06:32:43 pm
On this particular occassion the lady of the house did not want me standing on her roof, actually get requested a to not do this.
Must be different over here in N Ireland, but yes I usually do walk on the roof, I was posting this to show another way of doing it specially for trads starting out with no one to foot the ladder


A really good traditional post by a newbie!

D J windows do you charge extra for the obvious extra time involved in this job?
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: d.j windows on March 28, 2008, 07:18:39 pm
Cheers Jason,
Nah, dont charge any extra, Im serious N.Ireland is the worst place for window cleaners, people are as tight as frogs arse (and thats watertight), dont want to part with money.
It takes me 10 seconds longer to set up this way, so I just get on with it.
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: Village Gleam on March 28, 2008, 07:28:12 pm
I keep meaning to get them limpets and keep putting it off.

I went onto the site but I wasn't happy with how they took the money (insecure).

Are they the best form of safety device, better than the mats etc?

Good to have a trad bloke on, er (thinking about frogs), they are rarer than rocking horse poop- and thats rare.
Did anyone else notice Squeaky lurking in the photo?
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: d.j windows on March 28, 2008, 07:36:18 pm
They are very good, I dont use em all the time, but for slippy surfaces they are great, I use them as shown on the pic for extra stability, you can climb to the top of the ladder (in pic) even though the top is resting against nothing.
It really is secure and the ladder doesnt shake or move at all. I would use them different if i had longer ladders by resting the top of ladder above window and puttind second set on roof instead of window cill. I got them cos I was in partnership with a guy and after 2 months he left and I wanted something to hold the ladder secure and steady.
So to answer your question YES  they are a good investment
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: Village Gleam on March 28, 2008, 07:52:36 pm
My ladder slipped quite recently, I had to access a window over a sort of gulley to a garage. The patio looked a bit green so I was carefull to make the ladder very steep. Guess what, I got nearly to the top and it slipped (Stopped by a pave that stuck up).
Me thinks, what? Can't be right the ladder was virtually vertical, so I tried again and slipped again. Told customer then that I couldn't do it.

I still use ladders quite a lot for gutters etc and access, so it is stupid of me not to have these mitts.

When I have to access similar you I use a stand off.
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: d.j windows on March 28, 2008, 07:56:30 pm
wot you mean a stand off???
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: Village Gleam on March 28, 2008, 08:02:19 pm
It's a thing thats designed to do what your top mits do, usually so you can stand away from a gutter. A stand off can rest on a window frame uprights too.
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: windolene on March 28, 2008, 08:05:58 pm
Hi,

A double pointed ladder would do away with the top limpets.

Kevin windolene.
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: tacky on March 28, 2008, 10:44:25 pm
sorry u were caught by the traffic warden ( joking )but if ur trad get longer ladders .3,5 good all rounders .i used to have them ladders i hated them but my son would nt use any other .that is yours i hated not the 3.5 titan .they ar a bit heavy er but more solid .with the xtra reach u can put them under bit of wall between gutter n window .or like u said u b quicker .to lower ladder a bit n use pole ..but at end of day dont take chances .
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: windowwashers on March 28, 2008, 11:12:31 pm
bugger doing a gutter without a stand off now, you have to lend backwards (dodgy) THEN CLEAN IT OUT ONE SIMPLE SLIP YOU GO DOWN

£30 odd get one.

Ian
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: jeff1 on March 28, 2008, 11:25:34 pm
Before I bought my lance, I used to do guttering the same way but with the added stand off.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/workwithlimpet007Small-1.jpg)
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: windowwashers on March 28, 2008, 11:31:13 pm
Before I bought my lance, I used to do guttering the same way but with the added stand off.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/workwithlimpet007Small-1.jpg)
Jeff,

the arms off your ladder do you have a link ?
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: jeff1 on March 28, 2008, 11:44:15 pm
Ian its the ladder Limpet

http://www.laddatec.com/ 5% discount for members of the academy, ask Joe for the code.

Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: jeff1 on March 29, 2008, 12:14:44 am
We are having a competition within the next few days for a free set of limpets  to the winner.
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: windowwashers on March 29, 2008, 12:49:55 am
We are having a competition within the next few days for a free set of limpets  to the winner.
I am awaiting a reply to my post.  :'(
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: jeff1 on March 29, 2008, 01:14:05 am
You got 2 now
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: windowwashers on March 29, 2008, 01:32:41 am
You got 2 now
replied please read, sort and delete

Ian
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: d.j windows on March 29, 2008, 02:20:03 am
wow, lot of replies .
Sometimes if i am in a lazy mood, i just use the one set of limpets on bottom and climb up halfway and use the unger 0 degree swiv loc on a pole, I find its at the right angle when facing window, also swivels so u can S wipe the windows with a twist of the pole.
Only dilemma I face is those dreaded dorm windows halfway up roof (nightmare).
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: elite mike on March 29, 2008, 07:27:03 am
wow, lot of replies .
Sometimes if i am in a lazy mood, i just use the one set of limpets on bottom and climb up halfway and use the unger 0 degree swiv loc on a pole, I find its at the right angle when facing window, also swivels so u can S wipe the windows with a twist of the pole.
Only dilemma I face is those dreaded dorm windows halfway up roof (nightmare).

hi dj

yeh i hate the dreaded dormers, i  always pole them.

and i always say to custy ,that they will not be perfect  :D  :D

all are happy with this

mike
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: d.j windows on March 29, 2008, 12:06:36 pm
Mike, do you pole from ground or up ladder gutter height,
Title: Re: windows above porches
Post by: elite mike on March 29, 2008, 12:11:23 pm
Mike, do you pole from ground or up ladder gutter height,

hi dj
both, depends on the windows and angle of roof

regards
mike