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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: simondavis on March 24, 2008, 12:09:45 am
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I have about £1000 to spend and want a professional carpet cleaner. Am I asking too much with only £1k?
Thanks
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Hi Simon
I have no personal experience but Semca is a recognised brand and about right for the money.
Also in this price range is the Rhino, various suppliers.
Obviously if you had more money better machines are available but we all have to start somewhere.
Cheers
Doug
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Likewise I havent used this CC but If I only had around a grand to spend I think the rhino looks the best deal.Its got the stair climbing wheels on it as well which can make life easier.Looks smarter as well!
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Personally I'd save some more money.
But if you really must, I'd go for something a little but more mainstream. When you buy 2nd hand you don't know quite what you are getting and you will get more help on here with something more well known.
For instance. There is a Ninja for sale in the buy and sell section for a £1000ono. It's a similar spec I suspect and has a heater.
I started off with a machine like that and it will make you money in a reasonable time, then you can graduate to something a bit more powerful.
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Simon I agree with Mike, try and save a bit more as you will find after 6 months you will want to upgrade if you buy that machine.
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Simon. Is the £1000 you have to cover all the kit you need? If so I would save a bit more or buy the 2nd hand ninja as it comes with (pretty much) everything you need to get started. If you buy a new machine it won't include sprayers, hand tools, brushes, agitation tools, buckets, a vacumm cleaner and so on.
Pete
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Anyone have the link to the Rhino or Ninja?
I could probably find £1500 at a push, just wondered if I would get a pro machine like you peeps use for that ammount, or am I dreaming.
I do appreciate all the help, THANKS
Simon
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The Ninja is for sale on the buy and sell section on here and Restormate.co.uk (amongst others) sell the Rhino
Pete
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I believe John Kelly at Restormate can accomadate that price 01670 590099
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Simon
What do you do at the moment? A bit of background may help us advise better.
I know when I sarted I thought it was just about getting a van and a machine. In fact I wanted to use my mondeo and save on a van. ::)
Your machine is a key part of your set up but just one cost. You have will spend about the same again on incidentals and marketing, chems, insurances etc.
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The sponsors of this site sell Prochem machines starting at your budget - may be worth having a look at the specifications.
Also Matt at Cleansmart in Nottingham www.cleansmartsupplies.co.uk has a couple of machines at that price too.
Dont forget spend £1000 at a dealer and thats £1175 after VAT !
The price of the new Semca on Ebay includes VAT buy the look of it.
Take a close look at all the specifications and come back woth more questions if you need to.
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simon this looks ok
http://www.cleantalk.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=11878
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this is the link but this has no heater
http://www.prochem.co.uk/galaxy.htm
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Well I am just doing it for family at the mo. What I mean is I enjoy cleaning, have a large extended family and do theirs with my Vax (dont laugh). I wanted to buy a pro machine to do their carpets better. I am currently not able to work and am on long term sick but need something to get me out of the house. I really enjoy carpet cleaning and a family member said they would buy me a machine up to £1k and if I wanted any more I could put to it, so its kind of like a present. Its simply for family friends etc. BUT I dont want a domestic unit, a professional one only.
I have autism to be honest and cannot be signed on as I have more bad days than good. MY GP and consultant will not let me work but if I can get a good machine I can do it more often,m thus getting me out of the house, then I can prove to people I can work etc. You see what I am getting at here. I am trying to prove myself I guess.
I dont understand about heaters etc so I will need to learn about them.
Sorry for the long post
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Simon
For this purpose the Rhino would be more than enough (as would the semca).
Don't spend more than the £1k, you really don't need to. Buy the Semca and get the supplier to show you how to use it and get all further techy advice from here. Ideally a training course should be the direction but if thats not possible then ring someone who's details are on their profile and they will help you. I'm happy for you to call me.
Pete
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Simon,the Semca would come under the entry level machines and would have probably a 60 psi pump,maybe even less,this is barely sufficient to clean carpets on a regular basis and more suited to small areas and spotting,a machine with 100 + psi will do a much better job and you will find the work much easier.
The Prochem Galaxy or something similar as suggested would be a much better choice.
For £1000 plus the Semca is not the best choice of machine and would give similar results to a Rug Doctor from your local Sainsburys.
If you are on a tight budget,The Galaxy is available from olympic Cleaning together with hand tools at £877-79 + vat which keeps you within your 1 grand budget.-John
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I thought the Semca was 100psi. If it is only 60 then John is right Simon it would not suffice.
Pete
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Not been able to check what the psi is on the Semca but it has 2 - 3 stage motors
Prochem Galaxy only 1 - 3 stage vac motor and 70psi according to the sites i visited.
Need to check specs carefully
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Well spotted Joe,
very confusing as Prochem themselves list it as 120 psi,our sponsors also list it as 120 psi,yet looking around the web others list it as 70 psi,so someone has their sums wrong.
I still believe even if it was 70psi and with a quality single jet wand it would out perform the Semca,but 70psi is really the bottom end of the market.-John
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I bought a new prochem powermax from olympiccleaning for £1500 inc vat, i would save up and buy one of these.
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The semca is 135 psi.
I bough one as my first machine, ran with it for nearly a year, now upgraded to 400 psi ninja so it is my back up. It works, but a bu**er to get upstairs - weighs 36 kg when empty. I could run 50 foot of hose though so no probs with most domestic jobs.
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If the Semca has 135psi and 2 - 3 stage vac motors and is ok at 50 foot - it seems pretty good value because the price on Ebay was the nett price - no VAT.
Hoses seemed a bit short though - 15' if I remember rightly - and suction/solution hose is not too cheap.
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Simon,
We are based only 40 mins from blackpool, if you would like to come out with me for a few days and give the job a go hands on you are more than welcome, just drop me an e-mail.
Mark
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Excellant offer Mark - well done. Hope Simon goes for it.
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http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=51663.0
Pete Sweeney mentioned this earlier - hardly used - looks a good 2nd hand buy.
Someone else iterested so make an enquery quick if you think you may be up for it.
If things dont work out you may be able to sell this easier then a Semca (in my opinion)
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imo
i would buy the ninja (i own 1) as offered in the for sale section
good value for money.........if i had a spare 1k i would buy it for myself!!
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Thank You Mark, I will take you up on that, I am off till the 19th April now abroad so will email you when I arrive back. Thanks again
Does anyone have any pics of the Ninja for sale? Sounds lke the one to be loking at.
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Get in touch with the guy thats selling it.
but there was someone else interested by the sounds of it.
Foloow that link I put on and go back to the first post and read them all.
You need to act fast if you want that one.
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Thanks Joe
Have left a message with Dominic.
Have just seen this on eBay too http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230233850851&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:PIC&ih=013
With all that comes with it, Dominics looks quite good.
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buy the ninja...........it has more extras......upholstery tool./50 m hose and bag / sprayers/chem/.....etc! ;D
the steempro comes with wand and hose only
but saying that ..........i am biased.......i like the ninja ;D
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simon u have mail :)
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Thanks Joe
Have left a message with Dominic.
Have just seen this on eBay too http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230233850851&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:PIC&ih=013
With all that comes with it, Dominics looks quite good.
If the Ninja was not available I would perhaps say have a go for the Prochem.
But the Ninja is a better deal at £850.
By the way its not 50metre of hoe its 50ft which is pretty good.
Would get you into most upstairs corners of a house from the hallway.
Get yourself some M-Power from Solutions uk or Nemesis Super from Restormate.
Pretty safe fluids to start with and they are "green". They are not going to remove everything from a carpet but they will do a pretty good job.
These need some agitation for them to work. Either a good long handled carpet brush (£20) or there is an Envirodri machine on sale in the For Sale section - £250 (new about £950). These are a carpet cleaner in themselves (but not as good as hot water extraction), they uses sponges, but many of us use them for agitation as well.
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Simon - give Dominic a call on his mobile - hes not on line - you may get to speak with him on mobile
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I have about £1000 to spend and want a professional carpet cleaner. Am I asking too much with only £1k?
Thanks
I'm a professional carpet cleaner! I'll take your £1k... Thanks!
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Thanks Joe will do.
Is there a web site that will tell me what things are? I mean on the Ninja thread someone's mentioned an inline heater and hotbox, I wondered what they were and why they are needed. Also in the spec Dominic said
1x 3 stg hd vac motor
1x 3 stg std vac motor
1 x 120 psi high flow ind motor w/flow control
1 x adj 3kw heater w/low level cut-off
1 x internal v2 steammate
50ft hose
1 x 2 jet wand
1 x stainless steel hand tool 11.5 cm std spray
*****1 x dry vacuum kit ( needs new connecting hose )*****
1 x pump out hose
+ extras mentioned above in first post.
Does it have a vacuum cleaner on it and what would the connector cost. Sorry for all the questions I am just doing my best to understand
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You don't 'need' the inline heater but extra heat helps clean better. At least it does on this forum.
That bit is the V2 steamate in the spec
The 3k immersion heater sits in the tank like a kettle element so it's heating all the water while you set up. then when you clean the inline heater heats up the water going though the hose.
have you looked at ashby's site?
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No I havent. I will try to find the URL.
I am sorry to be a pain, It doesnt sink in with me sometimes. I find it difficult to understand.
I get didled sometimes because I dont know what I am supposed to be looking for.
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www.carpet-cleaning-equipment.co.uk/
Here you go Simon
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You are no different to everyone else starting out, there is a steep learning curve. Sounds like you need more time to assimulate what you need, after all there is no rush is there.
There will be other 'bargains' in the future and you will be better placed to grab them armed with more knowledge and a few contacts maybe.
People on here are generally very giving with their knowledge and I would have gone under ages ago without this resource. Thank you Mr Boxall!
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Looking at the Ashbys catalogue I have here - you can put a kit on that makes it a vac cleaner. Vac is essential prior to cleaning a carpet - get rid of the loose dirt first.
Most of us here will have a separate vac cleaner like a Sebo BS36 whic has 2 motors - one fro the brush and one for vac.
The whole dry vac kit costs £140 so a hose cant be much (if it cant be repaired).
That machine new without any of the hoses tools etc would be in excess of £1700 + vat.
Add on all the bits.......
www.ashbys-uk.com
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I have their vac kit. I have to replace the hose about every 6 months and that's after snippin bits off and re attaching. basically the wire in the hose fatigues and breaks off regularly.
I think Ashby charged me £10 a metre ::)
I did ask on here for a cheaper source of short lengths but got no response.