Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Kev Loomes on March 22, 2008, 06:07:06 pm
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Carpet-Cleaning-Evolver-6-Jet-14-Truck-Mount-Wand_W0QQitemZ150227734775QQihZ005QQcategoryZ42926QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122
Is it the same as the Greenhorn? For £215.00 delivered to UK it seems like a good deal at half the price.
Any ideas?
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Hi Kev
Have a look on thier website I've bought wands from them in the past, they have all been great quality.I quite fancy the titan! http://shop.xact-tools.com
All the best
John
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Have bought various bits & pieces from xact tools over time. Always realistically priced, freight charges very reasonable and fast delivery
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They have some great looking carpet wands,
http://shop.xact-tools.com/product.sc?categoryId=3&productId=59
http://shop.xact-tools.com/product.sc?categoryId=3&productId=63
http://shop.xact-tools.com/product.sc?categoryId=3&productId=75
http://shop.xact-tools.com/product.sc?categoryId=3&productId=58
Very Good Prices aswell
Richie.
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Its not a greenhorn but looks a bargain. :)
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Thanks for the replies. I'm tempted now!
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looks good to me
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Its not a greenhorn but looks a bargain. :)
What are the differences between the two , seams a good bit cheaper
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Its not a greenhorn but looks a bargain. :)
What are the differences between the two , seams a good bit cheaper
Paul Pics here http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=48436.0
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these wands have a mixed reveiw on the u.s boards but i guess it like everything what suites one may not suite all but it does look like a nice bit on kit , i have emailed them and they do ship too the u.k.
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I am achieving significantly better drying times with the Greenie wand with jets totaling 08 on a high power porty.
Worth a couple of hundred extra IMO and comes with a Green glide which i think HM retail for £100+vat.
Mark
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The Green horn is set up completely diffent. Extended jets angled in towards the Glide, better solution line and light valve trigger, and the way the 2" tube meets the vac head manifold so that flow back is virtually eliminated, to mention just afew differences.
Dave.
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thanks for the replys
I sent that question from casualty this afternnon and just got home with oldest one as youngest daugther has been admitted with suspected menigitest, and just got told she has'nt 1 hour ago, good bless the NHS!
Little one to bed and that can of larger at the back of the fridge has got my name on it!
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Worst nightmare :-[ Glad shes OK an Easter you wont forget Paul :)
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Thank god Paul, crack that beer open ;D
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Glad she's ok Paul.
The Green horn is set up completely diffent. Extended jets angled in towards the Glide, better solution line and light valve trigger, and the way the 2" tube meets the vac head manifold so that flow back is virtually eliminated, to mention just afew differences.
Dave.
Dave, the jet set up look very similar to the greenhorn and appear to be angled towards the wand lip/glide in the same way - it says it in the description too. Or am I missing something?
Cheers
Kev
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Kev,
So it does, sorry about that, didnt have my glasses on when I first looked. I like the fact that its got solid lips, but I would want a glide. I have a 14" four jet wand and struggle to move it without a glide. It is certainly a lot cheaper than some, so might be worth the chance.
Dave.
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This one comes with a glide!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Carpet-Cleaning-Evolver-6-Jet-14-Wand-w-Glider_W0QQitemZ160221346868QQihZ006QQcategoryZ42926QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122
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Got to say they do look tempting offers, what are the savings like when shipping in from the states after the X,s are added on. I remember posting a thread on hear a few months ago about shipping stuff from over the pond and it pretty much got poo-poo,d,scared me and put me right off persuing it any further.Obviously some of you have done it now so a bit of insight wouldnt go amiss, cheers klinger.
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The shipping says $89 to UK which is approx £45. Still works out to approx half price overall, even though the HM Greenhorn etc undoubtably have quality built in - steel is steel at the end of the day.
With this slight compromise on out and out quality (but they may be excellent quality?) I still think it looks a good buy. I just wondered if anyone had bought one and what they were like.
Cheers
Kev
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What taxes and duties are there to pay ?
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Good point Joe - I really dont know. I just presumed that the price was all in as is most things off ebay. I e mailed the company and he confirmed that the price is all in and shipped.
Is there an automatic procedure to pay any duties and tax etc? Or does it just arrive on your doorstep? I havent bought anything from the US before so excuse me for being a bit dim witted with this side of things!
Anyone else know?
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Theres a duty, to pay plus VAT, not sure how much.
All the best
David Ware
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Greenie wand was 420+v from HM
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Hi Kev,
Yes I saw the Glider, couldnt really miss it, a Yellow Hybrid. I prefer the slotted and it has to be a GREENGLIDE, cause the others just are not the same quality. Greenglides are more robust than others that I have come across and have less chance of distortion and air leaks and they are of a firmer fit. Personally I would find the extra dosh and get a Greenhorn.
Dave.
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Feel free to fire away some questions, i am very familiar with the manufacturer of these wands as they are near me, I don't choose to sell that line of tools, if youa re just looking for a backup wand or a spare for a porty you use a few times a month, no problem, excellent value, but for a daily tool and your main weapon you can do better.
When you are looking at tools you must look at all things in detail, from the gauge of the metal, to the quality of the welds, a tool that has broken on a job isn't much of a value even if it were free.
I could probably make a list of things you would look for in a better than average tool, but let me start by answering your questions.
Who is first?
Greenie
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As I mentioned above, I have bought bits & pieces from xactools. All have been fine. Would I purchase a more important item like a wand from them, no.
Think you have given a fair assessment in your post, Greenie. Don't think many questions will crop up
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Greenie with more of the guys moving onto 2.5 inch hose now is there a wand out there in 2.5inch or expanded to.
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As I mentioned above, I have bought bits & pieces from xactools. All have been fine. Would I purchase a more important item like a wand from them, no.
Think you have given a fair assessment in your post, Greenie. Don't think many questions will crop up
I dont see a reason why you wouldnt "purchase a more important item like a wand from them"
Could you explain a bit more
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I've used this company before when i bought a stair tool with a glide but they said at the time (November 07) that because of the length of the wands the price is a lot more expensive as it exceeds a standard carriage charge.
Shaun
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You just got in Shaun?
Is she unpacking whilst you feed your habit?
Your E30 is working lovely by the way (got a few curly's in it now though) ;D
Pete
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Washing and ironing is a breeze when you own a shop that does it.
Unpacking well that's for girls :o
Shaun
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Greenie with more of the guys moving onto 2.5 inch hose now is there a wand out there in 2.5inch or expanded to.
I have seen a wand with a 2.5" bore, and who knows you may see them mainstream someday, but I'm not real hot on the idea. Now, that said I do have several customers who hook 2.5" to a 2" wand....I couldn't do it when I was cleaning, but apparantly they are.
I say I'm not real hot on the idea because I have seen what a 12' lead section of 2" hose coupled to 150' of 2.5" can deliver.... simply amazing vacuum, so I am seeing diminished returns on going larger at this point. If you can get a 100% nylon cut pile carpet dry in 30 mins. or a polyprop dry in 20 mins. are we really questing for more?
Most guys could make better use of higher flow, or higher heat once they have the 2.5" vac hose already working for them.
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I agree with you Jeff but I don't think wool (which is what most of us clean) will dry that quick in most cases in the UK but any % off is faster than what we are getting now.
A good friend of mine cleans carpets with high flow 4 x 0.3 jets @ 200psi and gets carpets dry quickly (although I haven't seen it for myself) but he loses the heat (boxxer 421, 3.5 gallon a min) just wondering with a bigger TM would it retain heat better but the downside is most bigger TM's have even bigger flow (boxxer 427 has 5.5 gallons a min) would that go back to square 1 ?
Shaun
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I agree with you Jeff but I don't think wool (which is what most of us clean) will dry that quick in most cases in the UK but any % off is faster than what we are getting now.
A good friend of mine cleans carpets with high flow 4 x 0.3 jets @ 200psi and gets carpets dry quickly (although I haven't seen it for myself) but he loses the heat (boxxer 421, 3.5 gallon a min) just wondering with a bigger TM would it retain heat better but the downside is most bigger TM's have even bigger flow (boxxer 427 has 5.5 gallons a min) would that go back to square 1 ?
Shaun
Shaun, I hear ya on the dry times, I specifically mentioned the faster drying synthetics, I know wool will be several times that, (people basically expect that) I was just pointing out the quick drying stuff.
On the bigger TM question, yes, in general a larger powerplant will yield more BTUs that can be captured and thus heat more volume of solution.
But..... pump volume has little to do with anything in carpet cleaning, we only use a fraction of what the pumps produce, (pressure washing is another animal)....it's all about the jets on the wand, what hits the carpet is determined by the orifice of the jets.
All that said, more heat and more flow still stand a greater chance of yielding a drier carpet. Notice I didn't necessarily mention pressure. ;)