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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Tony_Browning on March 20, 2008, 07:46:08 am

Title: Carpet Protector (cures in 30 Mins)
Post by: Tony_Browning on March 20, 2008, 07:46:08 am

At the NCCA meeting in Leicester Mr Bolton refered to a new Protector that cures in 30 Mins.  ::) :o

Does anybody know who Manufactures/Distributes this......can/does it work.......has anybody come across it?

Happy Easter, Tony.

Title: Re: Carpet Protector (cures in 30 Mins)
Post by: Joe H on March 20, 2008, 08:35:31 am

If that is a photo of you Tony - how did you get it there - others inc me are struggling.
Seems we know where the photo is on computer, we direct it to that location but nothing goes across.
Tell us the secret PLEASE.
What size is the image - mine is passport size and about 10kb

Title: Re: Carpet Protector (cures in 30 Mins)
Post by: Joe H on March 20, 2008, 08:42:03 am

Tony - Solutions UK are about to launch a new protector to the marketplace.
May be thats it.
Just been searching CleanTalk forum to see if curing time for that is as you state. Cant find :(

Title: Re: Carpet Protector (cures in 30 Mins)
Post by: Mark Lane-Matthews on March 20, 2008, 09:03:36 am

HI Tony
Are you refering to John or Derek Bolton ? 

Title: Re: Carpet Protector (cures in 30 Mins)
Post by: *paul_moss on March 20, 2008, 11:49:18 am

Its Derek Bolton as John is not a NCCA member.

The only new protector ive heard of is Solutions one, but no idea of cure time with it.
Unless it is a solvent based protector which most manufacturers are moving a way from, I find it hard to see how it would cure in 30 mins as protectors cure on drying. If it had been applyed to a cleaned carpet of a moistened one it will take longer than 30 mins just to dry let a lone cure.

Title: Re: Carpet Protector (cures in 30 Mins)
Post by: Tony_Browning on March 20, 2008, 01:25:45 pm

Joe,

I put that photo on my profile a long time ago.....will try to find the original and let you know the file size, etc. ......
Will leave the photo as it is.....as i'm much more fatter and uglier now!!! :'(

Title: Re: Carpet Protector (cures in 30 Mins)
Post by: Tony_Browning on March 20, 2008, 05:43:28 pm

For Picture uploads see the "google, not filling profile link."
Apparently it's all to do with size!!!!!....... :-X

Title: Re: Carpet Protector (cures in 30 Mins)
Post by: Ken Wainwright on March 20, 2008, 07:57:48 pm

My recollection from the course at Leicester to which Tony refers is slightly different, so I have this evening spoken to Derek seeking clarification. As Derek is no longer a member of CIU, I am replying on his behalf.

There are two issues here with"drying" protectors. Drying time and curing time. In the past, there has been a solvent fabric protector that would "dry" in 20 to 30 minutes. Curing was typically 24 to 48 hours. Some could take upto about 3 weeks to cure. This had a trichlorethylene(sp?)  carrier and is no longer available. Derek believes that there will soon be a new fabric protector available which will also dry in about 30 minutes if applied correctly. But curing will again be typically 24 to 48 hours.

As with all chemicals, it is important to read the instructions carefully and to follow them.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken

Title: Re: Carpet Protector (cures in 30 Mins)
Post by: mark_roberts on March 20, 2008, 10:53:30 pm

In an ideal world should the carpet not be used during this curing time??

As its not an ideal world will this have an adverse effect on the effectiveness of the protector.

Mark

Title: Re: Carpet Protector (cures in 30 Mins)
Post by: Doug Holloway on March 21, 2008, 08:44:30 am

Hi Guys

Trichloroethylene is gradually being phased out on H&S grounds, we used to use loads when I was in the lab :o

Curing is one of those terms that can mean varying things.

In this sense it would normally mean the formation of a strong, irreversible bond. This process takes time concrete is still hardening after 90 years, albeit very slowly !

I would think a solvent based protector will give a better bond but is difficult to use in an occupied house and is really for pretreatment prior to laying.

Any walking on a carpet with protector applied will cause it to wear off before it can be cured.



Cheers

Doug