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Title: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: D.Salkeld_Ltd on March 11, 2008, 11:16:17 pm
Hi All,

I received this yesterday.

OK Hoggy could be a bit below the belt.  But, personally, I quite enjoyed the banter ;D ;D ;D

Hi David, I thought that I would contact you through your website, as I have been banned from the forum for the way I slated your site! I apologise for the things that I said, and although it was not meant with any malice, I can see that it may have come accross in that way. You are clearly a very decent hard working family man and I hope that I have not offended you in any way. I am missing the banter from the forum, but realise that I have over stepped the mark on more than one occassion! I would appreciate it if you could post an apology from me to the rest of guys on the forum for some of the things that I have posted that may have caused offence, although it was only intended as banter I realise I may have gone to far sometimes. Who knows they may allow me back onto the forum sometime, I never thought that I would miss it, but I do! I realise now how lucky we all are to have such a fantastic forum!!! By the way I can see that you have taken on board some of the more constructive criticism, and your site is looking really good now!! I like it a lot!!! Regards, Groundhog.


Anyway, I've done as he asked.

David
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on March 11, 2008, 11:26:16 pm
 ??? did he have a go at your site dave,was that on the website thread cos i cant see anything from him,or has it  been deleted ???,anyway mate you are a lot more magnanimous than most on here ;D
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: Wayne Thomas on March 11, 2008, 11:39:13 pm
David. nice website, different approach and I like it.

You never appreciate a forum fully until you are banned and then you realise how much you are addicted even if you won't admit it to yourself, even if you love winding people up the wrong way. Most people enjoy a bit of banter, but a lot of banter tends to rub people up the wrong way if they are persistently being picked on. I miss Groundhog's persistent views.

Perhaps the Clean It Up moderators might add this for new forum members to read:    www.videojug.com/film/how-to-behave-on-an-internet-forum


Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: brett walker on March 11, 2008, 11:43:14 pm
The remark groundhog made was well out of order in my view  >:(

i cant work the bloke out i dont know if he just likes a bit of banter or hes just damn right rude

but then if he has given his sincere apologies then perhaps hes a nice bloke and weve just taken him the wrong way, hope to see him back but with a different choice of words

i miss Graham Gould bring him back as well ;D

Brett.
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on March 11, 2008, 11:54:25 pm


i cant work the bloke out i dont know if he just likes a bit of banter or hes just damn right rude


ditto
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: matt on March 11, 2008, 11:57:12 pm


i cant work the bloke out i dont know if he just likes a bit of banter or hes just damn right rude


ditto

personally i think he is just rude, but then again its easy to be a big rude man behind a PC screen

we seem to get a fair few of them on here
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: windowwashers on March 12, 2008, 07:48:53 am
Hi All,

I received this yesterday.

OK Hoggy could be a bit below the belt.  But, personally, I quite enjoyed the banter ;D ;D ;D

Hi David, I thought that I would contact you through your website, as I have been banned from the forum for the way I slated your site! I apologise for the things that I said, and although it was not meant with any malice, I can see that it may have come accross in that way. You are clearly a very decent hard working family man and I hope that I have not offended you in any way. I am missing the banter from the forum, but realise that I have over stepped the mark on more than one occassion! I would appreciate it if you could post an apology from me to the rest of guys on the forum for some of the things that I have posted that may have caused offence, although it was only intended as banter I realise I may have gone to far sometimes. Who knows they may allow me back onto the forum sometime, I never thought that I would miss it, but I do! I realise now how lucky we all are to have such a fantastic forum!!! By the way I can see that you have taken on board some of the more constructive criticism, and your site is looking really good now!! I like it a lot!!! Regards, Groundhog.


Anyway, I've done as he asked.

David
At least the guy emailed you to say sorry if he offended you, he didnt have to. thats the problem with the written word sometimes it can be read in many different ways.
I never read the post that got him banned so this comment is in general.

David, your site will get you work, I am yet to see many people on here that have one, as many dont, it comes across as you are very honest, just maybe a little to honest. (but then is that a bad thing to be honest :-\.

I wish you luck with it either way. And fair play to you for having a go at doing one in the first place.

Ian
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: cvdewsbury on March 12, 2008, 08:24:55 am
With the constructive criticism put forward by groundhog and other contributors the end result has been that David has taken onboard the comments and ended up with a better website...IMO Daves site was blunt honest and straightforward some of the comments were, but banter was had by everyone..this site needs a little bit of that everynow and again or else it becomes dour listening to the same old gripes about the weather or squabbles about window cleaners earning capabilities.....liven up chaps.
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: philboy on March 12, 2008, 09:21:41 am
Hoggy was rude, no doubt about it, but he's has done the right thing and appologised, fair play Hoggy!
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: cat9921 on March 12, 2008, 12:05:01 pm
I like Groundhog   ;D

he is one of those members that brought a sense of humor to the forum..

Even when I did not agree with what he said I still giggled at some of his post :D

I have not read what he said about Davids site, But if you want to know about the person behind the name just look at the E-mail he sent,
Like windowwashers said he did not have to do that, But he did

Look forward to seeing you again hog mate :D
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: nat on March 12, 2008, 12:08:14 pm
constructive criticism put forward by groundhog

 ::)

the guy was to arrogant and rude!! the comment he made was not constructive, it was Demoralizing, its so easy to sit behind a pc and attack other peoples work and ideas!

other peoples comments are in depth and constructive, a one liner saying crap isn't!! >:(
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: Adam Boss on March 12, 2008, 12:31:56 pm
This forum can get guys posting in a way they would not act in their business life,
everyone has an opinion and sometimes they get very passionate about certain threads as I do at times, we all think we kow best. Everyone is different and what works well for one might not work for someone else.
We are all in the same boat and trying to make a living so after reading his email I think he should should be allowed back IMO, which counts for very little to some guys on here but there you go. ???

Adam
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: gary999 on March 12, 2008, 01:50:19 pm
normally found groundhogs banter funny but on this occasion it was well
out of order personally i found it the forum version of spitting in someones face

makes me wonder sometimes about people on here if they would be
brave enough to act up if they had the person stood in front of them
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: Sir Squeaky on March 12, 2008, 03:06:20 pm
Rude, condescending, patronising, abusive.
Say no more.
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on March 12, 2008, 03:48:16 pm
The guy was out of order this time, and has been a lot of other times.

The site is better off without him and he is better off without this site.

Bob
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: groundhog on March 12, 2008, 03:49:52 pm
Hi everyone, I'm back!!!! ;D

Thanks David for posting my apology, and once again I'd like to say a big sorry to anyone who I have offended in the past.

I have never meant to cause offence, I just get a bit carried away sometimes! :-[ I will try to think a bit more carefully about what I am typing in future, instead of acting impulsively.

I think that you are all a great bunch of guys (even squeaky!)
And as I said before this is a great forum, and I didn't really appreciate just how much  I liked it until I got banned!

Group hug everyone!!!  ;D

Groundhog, (the new improved version!!!)
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: steven ainger on March 12, 2008, 03:56:07 pm
welcome back groundhog, tell me whats your opinion on backpacks
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: Sir Squeaky on March 12, 2008, 03:56:17 pm
I think that you are all a great bunch of guys (even squeaky!)
Liar. ;D
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: D.Salkeld_Ltd on March 12, 2008, 04:33:13 pm
Welcome back Hoggy :D

What about an apology to my poor seriosely offended BACKPACK ;D ;D ;D ;D






























OK Fair enough....................................................




Bet I get banned now for retaliating a bit below the belt ;D ;D ;D

David
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: groundhog on March 12, 2008, 05:20:35 pm
welcome back groundhog, tell me whats your opinion on backpacks

I love em!!!!!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: windowwashers on March 12, 2008, 05:21:55 pm
Welcome back Hoggy :D

What about an apology to my poor seriosely offended BACKPACK ;D ;D ;D
OK Fair enough....................................................




Bet I get banned now for retaliating a bit below the belt ;D ;D ;D

David
lol

so did he get you to change your mind a get a van mount ????
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: D.Salkeld_Ltd on March 12, 2008, 06:09:47 pm
Don't YOU star Wishy Washy ;D ;D ;D

I'll Have YOU Banned next ;D ;D ;D

David
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: macmac on March 12, 2008, 06:42:02 pm
All's well that ends well :-*

Tony
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: Spursboy1972 on March 12, 2008, 06:54:42 pm
Even my backpack? in Southampton.

Maybe thats puishing you  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: tompoole on March 12, 2008, 07:18:23 pm
Hi everyone, I'm back!!!! ;D

Thanks David for posting my apology, and once again I'd like to say a big sorry to anyone who I have offended in the past.

I have never meant to cause offence, I just get a bit carried away sometimes! :-[ I will try to think a bit more carefully about what I am typing in future, instead of acting impulsively.

I think that you are all a great bunch of guys (even squeaky!)
And as I said before this is a great forum, and I didn't really appreciate just how much  I liked it until I got banned!

Group hug everyone!!!  ;D

Groundhog, (the new improved version!!!)


Welcome back you Muppet! ;D
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: windowwashers on March 12, 2008, 07:22:21 pm
Don't YOU star Wishy Washy ;D ;D ;D

I'll Have YOU Banned next ;D ;D ;D

David
:'( what have you started I am now getting abuse on msn because of you, and I never said anything bad against your weedspraying back thing  :P

My wife will speak to me again if I get banned, so please dont  ;D

Ian
aka wishy washy
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: rugby on March 12, 2008, 07:32:00 pm
everybodys friends again,dont you just love a happy ending  :'(

       

you dont think us window cleaners are getting a bit soft do you  :-[
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: groundhog on March 12, 2008, 07:36:38 pm
I think that you are all a great bunch of guys (even squeaky!)
Liar. ;D

Hey Squeaky, you know that I mean it!! I still remember the old days when it was you and me doing battle against the wfp'ers, in the good old wfp v trad debates!!! Those were the good old days and I enjoyed those debates!!! Even if we were wrong most of the time!  ;D
We both joined the other side in the end though! A case of if you can't beat em join em I suppose!! ;D
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: groundhog on March 12, 2008, 07:39:09 pm
Quote from: link=topic=51749.msg434109#msg434109 date=1205336992



Welcome back you Muppet! ;D

Thanks Tom!! I think!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: groundhog on March 12, 2008, 07:46:38 pm
Even my backpack? in Southampton.

Maybe thats puishing you  ;D ;D

Ok while I'm in the apologising mood, I apologise to back pack users everywhere (even Southampton!) ;D I will even admit that I too have a backpack :-[ and on the odd occassion I even use it!!!  ;D
Seriously though Tony, I am sorry for what I said about people from Southampton, I think I was trying to bring a bit of pub humour to the forum, and I realise now that it dosn't work! unless your in the pub that is!!! ;D
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: groundhog on March 12, 2008, 07:49:45 pm
I like Groundhog   ;D

he is one of those members that brought a sense of humor to the forum..

Even when I did not agree with what he said I still giggled at some of his post :D

I have not read what he said about Davids site, But if you want to know about the person behind the name just look at the E-mail he sent,
Like windowwashers said he did not have to do that, But he did

Look forward to seeing you again hog mate :D

Thanks Cat for your kind words, I really appreciate the support!!!!  :)
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: gary999 on March 12, 2008, 08:00:16 pm
looks like youve been forgiven

still think your a metrosexual ;D
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: groundhog on March 12, 2008, 08:44:11 pm
looks like youve been forgiven

still think your a metrosexual ;D

Iv'e been called worse!!  ;D
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: Spursboy1972 on March 12, 2008, 09:42:46 pm
Groundhog in all seriousness the Southampton v Portsmouth thing really means nothing to me. After all we are all Southerners. What irked me was the not being able to listen and appreciate other peoples preferred working methods.

Hopefully in future we can all be a little more tolerant. I have even been using my van mount a little more (only on the front though)

right that will do me extra time has just kicked off

Up the Yid's!!! :)
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: groundhog on March 12, 2008, 09:54:32 pm
Groundhog in all seriousness the Southampton v Portsmouth thing really means nothing to me. After all we are all Southerners. What irked me was the not being able to listen and appreciate other peoples preferred working methods.

Hopefully in future we can all be a little more tolerant. I have even been using my van mount a little more (only on the front though)

right that will do me extra time has just kicked off

Up the Yid's!!! :)

Good on ya Tony, I will try to be more tolerant of other peoples prefered working methods in future! Although I must say that after having experience using trad, trolleys, backpacks and a van mount I believe that the best method is..... :-X :-X :-X sorry I can't help myself!! ;D Lets just say that I use a van mount and microbore hose and I think its great! But if you prefer a backpack or even a trolley then thats great too!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: brett walker on March 12, 2008, 10:05:17 pm
Groundhog in all seriousness the Southampton v Portsmouth thing really means nothing to me. After all we are all Southerners. What irked me was the not being able to listen and appreciate other peoples preferred working methods.

Hopefully in future we can all be a little more tolerant. I have even been using my van mount a little more (only on the front though)

right that will do me extra time has just kicked off

Up the Yid's!!! :)

Good on ya Tony, I will try to be more tolerant of other peoples prefered working methods in future! Although I must say that after having experience using trad, trolleys, backpacks and a van mount I believe that the best method is..... :-X :-X :-X sorry I can't help myself!! ;D Lets just say that I use a van mount and microbore hose and I think its great! But if you prefer a backpack or even a trolley then thats great too!!!  ;)

Welcome back to the new and improved groundhog :)

whats your real name

Brett
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: groundhog on March 12, 2008, 10:13:48 pm
Quote from: brett walker link=topic=5174

Welcome back to the new and improved groundhog :)

whats your real name

Brett

Hi Brett, its groundhog of course!!!!! ;D

Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: groundhog on March 12, 2008, 10:16:04 pm
Actually it's Graham, but don't tell anyone!  ;)
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: karlosdaze on March 12, 2008, 10:19:16 pm
Is this like the film? Everyday he wakes up & gets banned till he gets it right?  :P
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: brett walker on March 12, 2008, 11:04:34 pm
Actually it's Graham, but don't tell anyone!  ;)


i wont say a word  :-X


brett









Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on March 12, 2008, 11:32:37 pm
Actually it's Graham, but don't tell anyone!  ;)
believe me it could be worse ;D >:( :-[ ;)........now tell me how good my TROLLEY is while you are still in a88 kissing mode(cos it will have worn off by tomorrow night ,i bet  ;))
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: tompoole on March 13, 2008, 08:20:23 am
Even my backpack? in Southampton.

Maybe thats puishing you  ;D ;D

Ok while I'm in the apologising mood, I apologise to back pack users everywhere (even Southampton!) ;D I will even admit that I too have a backpack :-[ and on the odd occassion I even use it!!!  ;D
Seriously though Tony, I am sorry for what I said about people from Southampton, I think I was trying to bring a bit of pub humour to the forum, and I realise now that it dosn't work! unless your in the pub that is!!! ;D


Getting a little bit worried about you now groundhog! next thing you will be telling use you've seen the light and inviting us to a prayer goup or taken up flower arranging. do go too soft it doesn't suit you. ;D

tom
Title: Re: Apology from Groundhog
Post by: groundhog on March 13, 2008, 08:47:59 pm
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Getting a little bit worried about you now groundhog! next thing you will be telling use you've seen the light and inviting us to a prayer goup or taken up flower arranging. do go too soft it doesn't suit you. ;D

tom

Praise be the Lord! Groundhog is born again!!!

Whats wrong with flower arranging anyway? ;D

Me go soft! never!!  :-*