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Title: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: drakestar! on March 05, 2008, 04:37:49 pm
who sells them? got a job in the pipe line & need a 90ft pole.
 thanks
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Jon-scwindows on March 05, 2008, 04:44:10 pm
i dont think anyone makes them but someone on here , electric wfp man Jeff i think made one out of a superlight and something else...?
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Sanity on March 05, 2008, 04:55:52 pm
I would imagine it would be easier to absail it?

90ft?  God help you if there is a gust of wind.!
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: drakestar! on March 05, 2008, 04:56:38 pm
thanks i remember the photos, think he got his upto 100ft.
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Richy L on March 05, 2008, 04:58:54 pm
I would imagine it would be easier to absail it?

90ft?  God help you if there is a gust of wind.!

... what he said. :)

Seriously though, if a 90ft pole falls on someone it would kill them.
I think if you are using a pole that big it is very irisponsible.
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Alistair@AWC on March 05, 2008, 05:02:58 pm
Drakestar,

The biggest ive seen is a 83' Tucker Pole

http://www.jracenstein.com/store/ItemDesc.asp?IC=65-433

Although I would suggest that if you've not used anything above 60ft before, seek some advice


Al
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: drakestar! on March 05, 2008, 05:06:10 pm
thanks thats gonna be a heavy beast! i way hopeing someone did the fishing rod style but i cant see it
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on March 05, 2008, 05:09:52 pm
Mr Brimble is the man to talk to. He recently achieved 88ft with a lightweight pole. I have also heard recently of a couple of chaps who reached 120ft with a carbonized pole, but they said never again.

The health and safety implications for using a pole at these heights is quite worrying. You would need to put a lot of though into this. If something did go wrong and you hadn't covered all of the relevant issues, not only could people be hurt, but the HSE could fine you and slap you in jail.
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Jeff Brimble on March 05, 2008, 06:19:00 pm
Drakestar,the parts for a 90ft pole will cost you approx £1k -and a pole will go where cherry pickers fear to tread. Is the job worth it ? but globaly nobody will sell you a "quote 90ft" pole.
Depending on the circumstances I could safely do, or show you how to do  the job with a c/f pole weighing not a lot, for  £xxx per day plus expenses- but its a pity pity Londons so far away  :'(
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: mick101 on March 05, 2008, 06:33:45 pm
jeff you said you wouldnt travel again  ;D ps still not been paid  :'(
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Jeff Brimble on March 05, 2008, 07:09:46 pm
Ahh but I heard the streets are paved with GOLD  :o
Sounds like a 60 day turn round Mick.  :'(
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: mick101 on March 05, 2008, 07:17:45 pm
just checked jeff and its gone in  ;D got a job to do tommorrow for them, told them wasnt gong to do it unless it went in  :) must have worked
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Jeff Brimble on March 05, 2008, 07:22:48 pm
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Gr8 a good result. Tell em you want 14/28 days payment or .... else. They are stuck with you now if they want the high work doing again.  ;D
Good of you to pay me cash daily on completion under the circumsatnaces.
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: mick101 on March 05, 2008, 07:23:47 pm
allready have done jeff  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Jeff Brimble on March 05, 2008, 07:27:17 pm
See you in Windex, thurs ?
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: drakestar! on March 05, 2008, 07:33:42 pm
Thanks Jeff, ill see how things go & get back to you if this comes off! ::)
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Jeff Brimble on March 05, 2008, 07:39:45 pm
Cheers, the ref to 100ft is I think that the Emporium was originally designed as a 100ft spec. I aint got there yet till I get a 100ft job.

The technology is available now its just peoples immaginations that are limiting.
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner on March 05, 2008, 08:44:21 pm
Fella`s,I feel I`ve got to come in here and ask a few questions and possibly
Get on the wrong side of some members.Today,most of the day anyway,I`ve
Been using my converted `Venom`fishing pole working at approx.43 feet.
It`s a job I do every 2 months.The general finish was good.ie.no spotting.
What there was,was the spider and insect droppings that just would`nt shift
Because I couldn`t get enough `banjo`with my pole at that height,mainly because
Of the lack of strenth in a fishing pole.I only knew that there was insect remains
There when I went into the building to check the work out.The simple reason being
That I could`nt see from the ground that there some some there in the first place ! ! !
Before I go any further it`s a good job there was`nt any bird mess on that might have
Been there 7 weeks or more.I do wear,and have worn spectacles since I was 7 years old.
That I admit freely! How in blue blazes do you know what is on window glass at
45 feet?? Ya don`t because ya just can`t see,even someone with perfect vision.If
That`s the case,how can ya pole at anything up to 80 feet or more ? ? ? ? ? ? And
Know `hand on heart`you’ve got everything off? If ya can,then all I can say is,
`you’re a better man than I am Gunger Dinn `.Don`t misunderstand and get me all
Wrong,I would`nt want to be without my system,one of the best moves I `ve made
WFP.but I personally,with my experience believe the limitations have been exceded,
And that is totally wrong.The pressure on a brushhead or `pad`at some heights that
Have been talked about must be near zero psi.Also I agree with some members regarding
Health and safety issues.Only a fresh breeze in West Yorkshire today but at 43 feet
My `Venom`was at times bending like Rolf `Harris`s boomerang ! It was a bit `harrowing`.

Lewis  Doubtfire  Gleem Clean  ( The Blade Runner )
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: NWH on March 05, 2008, 08:48:24 pm
Working at this kind of height hot water is a must,all those bits of spider marks etc would come off easily with hot water.
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: gsw on March 05, 2008, 09:52:01 pm
what about the "anol" stuff would that do the job at this height and above!?
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Clear Vision on March 05, 2008, 10:19:50 pm
Fella`s,I feel I`ve got to come in here and ask a few questions and possibly
Get on the wrong side of some members.Today,most of the day anyway,I`ve
Been using my converted `Venom`fishing pole working at approx.43 feet.
It`s a job I do every 2 months.The general finish was good.ie.no spotting.
What there was,was the spider and insect droppings that just would`nt shift
Because I couldn`t get enough `banjo`with my pole at that height,mainly because
Of the lack of strenth in a fishing pole.I only knew that there was insect remains
There when I went into the building to check the work out.The simple reason being
That I could`nt see from the ground that there some some there in the first place ! ! !
Before I go any further it`s a good job there was`nt any bird mess on that might have
Been there 7 weeks or more.I do wear,and have worn spectacles since I was 7 years old.
That I admit freely! How in blue blazes do you know what is on window glass at
45 feet?? Ya don`t because ya just can`t see,even someone with perfect vision.If
That`s the case,how can ya pole at anything up to 80 feet or more ? ? ? ? ? ? And
Know `hand on heart`you’ve got everything off? If ya can,then all I can say is,
`you’re a better man than I am Gunger Dinn `.Don`t misunderstand and get me all
Wrong,I would`nt want to be without my system,one of the best moves I `ve made
WFP.but I personally,with my experience believe the limitations have been exceded,
And that is totally wrong.The pressure on a brushhead or `pad`at some heights that
Have been talked about must be near zero psi.Also I agree with some members regarding
Health and safety issues.Only a fresh breeze in West Yorkshire today but at 43 feet
My `Venom`was at times bending like Rolf `Harris`s boomerang ! It was a bit `harrowing`.

Lewis  Doubtfire  Gleem Clean  ( The Blade Runner )


I have to aggree with you!
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: TennetClean on March 05, 2008, 10:48:09 pm
forget poles at this height.

This is abseiling or hydraulic access

Even if you had a pole that would reach it would be very difficult to control
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Jeff Brimble on March 06, 2008, 06:47:49 am
You cannot clean windows with a wfp
You cannot use a backpack
You cannot diy systems
You cannot use plain rainwater
You cannot use floor brushes
you cannot use fishing poles
you cannot clean above 40ft,60ft,88ft 120ft

Some of the cannots from the last 10 years.

I can !
If you cannot thats down to you.
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: windowwashers on March 06, 2008, 07:19:13 am
You cannot clean windows with a wfp
You cannot use a backpack
You cannot diy systems
You cannot use plain rainwater
You cannot use floor brushes
you cannot use fishing poles
you cannot clean above 40ft,60ft,88ft 120ft

Some of the cannots from the last 10 years.

I can !
If you cannot thats down to you.
Jeff,

What fishing pole is the best to use and what cost ?


Ian
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: m b shaw on March 06, 2008, 01:24:55 pm
if its a flat roof above the best way is to have mate on roof with fastener to brush .two reasons first safety as it won t fall on anybody ,and second to move brush side to side as up and down is nt a problem. if i could nt do this then i would nt be doing the job,but this is only me i m too old for heroics.
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: bluez on March 06, 2008, 01:57:08 pm
I have used modular poles at 7 and a half stories about 70 / 80 ft and it would not be my choice for either quality or H&S reasons but I would do it again if there was no access for mewp or no safer alternative.

I am not attacking Jeff's efforts as I think it is important that someone push's the envelope for all in the industry as that is how new techniques and equipment get developed.




Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Jeff Brimble on March 06, 2008, 08:45:57 pm
Ian sorry for delay. I never had any trouble from my Map F16 second down £250 gets you to 41ft But I advise using the nuber 4 section from a Ron Thompson Zensorflex as a st goose neck. Or the CFS 16 as an alternative.  I have had mine  over 2 years.http://www.cheshirefishing.co.uk/shop/mappoles.htm

If you want to dip your toe in with modulars try the Ron Thompson Gangster £60 http://www.cheshirefishing.co.uk/shop/gangster.htm fitted with the goose neck as above. 29ft
Cheapest is the robust workable 21ft fibre glass Zensorflex from http://www.swiftys-fishing-tackle.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=6583 £18.99
The history is on Matts DIY site under the Merry Christmas topic.
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: poleman on March 06, 2008, 09:33:38 pm
Jeff, I am looking for a fishing pole that has a inner dimensions of 38mm to 51mm! for vacuum gutter cleaning system, can you help  :-\

Andy 
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Captain Scarlet on March 06, 2008, 10:03:23 pm
Quote
You cannot clean windows with a wfp
You cannot use a backpack
You cannot diy systems
You cannot use plain rainwater
You cannot use floor brushes
you cannot use fishing poles
you cannot clean above 40ft,60ft,88ft 120ft

Jeff, you have a great attitude, that why I like you! Luke
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Nathanael Jones on March 06, 2008, 10:05:11 pm
You cannot clean windows with a wfp
You cannot use a backpack
You cannot diy systems
You cannot use plain rainwater
You cannot use floor brushes
you cannot use fishing poles
you cannot clean above 40ft,60ft,88ft 120ft

Some of the cannots from the last 10 years.

I can !
If you cannot thats down to you.


LOL you forgot:

you cannot USE LADDERS!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

If I had a €uro for every time someone posted that,.....  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: Jeff Brimble on March 06, 2008, 10:13:37 pm
Andy
Most of the extension sections will do including the S2,F16, Garbolino, Maver etc etc. I use the F16 but I have to admit I am in a dilema over the use of c/f and  have  issues, could  I reply tomorrow. Meantime maybe Mr H wants to comment.
Title: Re: In need of a 90ft pole!
Post by: poleman on March 06, 2008, 10:19:01 pm
No pros, catch you soon  :)

Andy