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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 06:14:44 pm

Title: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 06:14:44 pm

Have citroen got a new van they're about to launch?
I think this van looks the nuts :)

Tony
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: clean on February 29, 2008, 06:24:58 pm
Ye it`s a citroen nemo  ;)
http://www.whatvan.co.uk/newvans_s.asp?id=5214
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: Clear Vision on February 29, 2008, 06:25:40 pm
Looks nice!

I think it will be the new depatch but could be wrong?

Matt
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: Neil Williams on February 29, 2008, 06:33:07 pm
I think it will be the new depatch but could be wrong?
Quote

The Dispatch has a payload of 851kg whilst this new version is only 610kg. So you'd be pushing it a bit if you had a 400L tank in there with all the other stuff plus driver.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 06:34:17 pm
Ye it`s a citroen nemo  ;)
http://www.whatvan.co.uk/newvans_s.asp?id=5214

It has a different front end to that one.

Tony
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: alanwilson on February 29, 2008, 06:36:41 pm
its going to be smaller than the partner!
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: alanwilson on February 29, 2008, 06:42:13 pm
although tony is right, its not a nemo.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: NWH on February 29, 2008, 06:49:14 pm
To small and under powered for the kind of weight we would be carrying,customers saying it`s powerfull are probobly carrying flowers or light boxes.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 07:06:43 pm
I dont think it's the nemo, the one i see has the front end of a C4.

Tony
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: dan hughes on February 29, 2008, 07:54:04 pm
payload is 610.

Good for start up system.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: clean on February 29, 2008, 08:30:02 pm
it`s the new berlingo for definate  ;)
http://motortorque.askaprice.com/news/auto-0801/new-citroen-berlingo-for-2008.asp
 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: frames to panes on February 29, 2008, 09:10:47 pm
850kg almost up to my Despatch level.  :o
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: Kev R on February 29, 2008, 09:16:57 pm
This is My new Citroen Dispatch LWB 1200 kgs payload and loads of room


](http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/Kevinred101/van-1.jpg) (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/Kevinred101/van-1.jpg[/img)

Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 10:25:59 pm
it`s the new berlingo for definate  ;)
http://motortorque.askaprice.com/news/auto-0801/new-citroen-berlingo-for-2008.asp
 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

That's the one, man, what a smart looking van. :o

Tony
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: NWH on February 29, 2008, 10:34:27 pm
They`ve been out for a while now,peugeot and fiat do the same with there badge on them but the citreon is the best looking as the front grill on there`s looks better than the others.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: birdymiller on February 29, 2008, 10:35:47 pm
kev has it got 3 seats in the front mate. Some have 2 some have 3 dont know why.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: NWH on February 29, 2008, 10:37:53 pm
kev has it got 3 seats in the front mate. Some have 2 some have 3 dont know why.
It depends on what you order from new if your lucky enough to have it from new.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 10:39:42 pm
They`ve been out for a while now,peugeot and fiat do the same with there badge on them but the citreon is the best looking as the front grill on there`s looks better than the others.

Which van you talking about?

tony
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: birdymiller on February 29, 2008, 10:41:35 pm
I see. If i ever get round to wfp i will need a 3 seater van for the kids. Not that i make them work just for the weekends
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: NWH on February 29, 2008, 10:44:52 pm
The new expert is the same van with a different badge ie peugeot,the only thing that`s different is the front of these vans it`s a bit like trafic-vivaro-primaster,i looked at the peugeot version and there not cheap either i was quoted about 18k.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 10:47:48 pm
The new expert is the same van with a different badge ie peugeot,the only thing that`s different is the front of these vans it`s a bit like trafic-vivaro-primaster,i looked at the peugeot version and there not cheap either i was quoted about 18k.

Seen a brand new dispatch/expert today, 1.6hdi comfort 1000kg payload 8.995

Tony
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: NWH on February 29, 2008, 10:50:17 pm
You want to be looking at 2ltr versions,totally different van.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 10:53:12 pm
You want to be looking at 2ltr versions,totally different van.

To be honest, where my work van is concerned power &/or speed is of no importance to me at all. If it moves i'm happy. ;)

Tony
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: d s windowcleaning on February 29, 2008, 10:59:07 pm
hi tony on a 1000kg payload how many ltrs of water would you be safe with would it carry 650 ltrs & other bits hoses , batterys poles ect .
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: NWH on February 29, 2008, 11:02:38 pm
650ltrs of water and all the other kit with a small engine would struggle and the re sale value would be better with a 2ltr version,you want to be looking at around the 1200kg mark for all that weight.Don`t forget a tank of fuel can weigh 70-80kilos.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: d s windowcleaning on February 29, 2008, 11:04:43 pm
cheers nwh
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 11:10:21 pm
650ltrs of water and all the other kit with a small engine would struggle and the re sale value would be better with a 2ltr version,you want to be looking at around the 1200kg mark for all that weight.Don`t forget a tank of fuel can weigh 70-80kilos.

resale value is also of no importance either, if i buy new i run it for long enough for it's resale value to have little relevance but would look at the 2.0 versoin anyway before commiting.
A very good friend who owned a few motor dealaships for good few years told me (in confidence :D) NEVER base your decision on the resale value of any motor vehicle. He told me why but i'm not starting this one so late at night. ;)

Tony
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: NWH on February 29, 2008, 11:13:28 pm
Did he give you any other little tips when going in to buy a new van Tony,i`m changing vans soon.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 11:20:37 pm
Did he give you any other little tips when going in to buy a new van Tony,i`m changing vans soon.

Only the norm mate what we already know, i'm in limbo with it at the mo', cant decide which size to go for. i'm in soft water area (south east scotland) & no one has water meters up here (water rates are in with council tax, you can't have a meter if you want one!) so i can fill up at any custy's garden tap (& do regular). I only have a kangoo now & to be honest i don't realy need any more room. ???

Tony
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: NWH on February 29, 2008, 11:23:55 pm
Tony i know a few people go on about the fiat doblos but i know a couple of guys that have them and they are made up with them,the same if not more room than you have now and there really cheap compared to other vans that size in there class,one of them has the 120bhp model and it goes like stink.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on February 29, 2008, 11:24:59 pm

NEVER base your decision on the resale value of any motor vehicle. He told me why but i'm not starting this one so late at night. ;)

Tony
come on tony....spill the beans ;D ;D
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 11:30:35 pm
Tony i know a few people go on about the fiat doblos but i know a couple of guys that have them and they are made up with them,the same if not more room than you have now and there really cheap compared to other vans that size in there class,one of them has the 120bhp model and it goes like stink.

I love the new doblo, was looking round the car version last week, was impressed with the room inside & like you say, they're pretty cheap compared.

Just got this info on the new berlingo- 850kg payload ;)

New Citroën Berlingo LCV: Practical and functional, yet strong on styling and comfort

The compact van version of the New Berlingo is big on load volume, payload and versatility, which are key features for professionals. It has a huge loading area (3.3 m3, up to 850 kg of payload and 1.8 m of useful length) that can take two Europallets width-wise, and is available with an Extenso® modular cabin, able to transport loads up to 3 metres long and increase useful load to 3.7 m3 or seat three people at the front.

The New Berlingo also offers passengers saloon-like levels of equipment for comfort and driving pleasure, including hill start assist, a height- and reach-adjustable steering wheel, C4 Picasso running gear and ESP. The New Berlingo is a modern working tool that confers prestige on its owners through its robust and dynamic styling.

The launch of the New Berlingo follows those of new Jumper, new Jumpy and Citroën’s latest compact van, Nemo. Citroën thus offers professionals the largest and most complete line-up of light commercial vehicles in its history, covering a wide range of needs, from 2.5 m3 to 17 m3 of load volume and up to two tonnes of payload.

Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 11:32:15 pm

NEVER base your decision on the resale value of any motor vehicle. He told me why but i'm not starting this one so late at night. ;)

Tony
come on tony....spill the beans ;D ;D

You tell me yours & i'll tell you mine ;D ;D
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: macmac on February 29, 2008, 11:46:00 pm
Here it is
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 01, 2008, 12:01:28 am
I got a new doblo 1.3sx new in Nov 2006 and it's fine for me, 736kg payload - single operator with 400L. It has side doors, leccy windows, abs, bulkhead as standard, also computer which tells me I average 40/42mpg when w/cleaning and when on a drive of say 10 miles plus it goes up to 50mpg.

We've got a shed of a car for the family so it's mileage is v.low and still not reached 10,000 miles in a year and four months!

I do have to go home to get more water in it mid afternoon occasionally so this easter I'm strapping 2 x 25L containers to the bulkhead and arranging a syphon so they can run into the main tank. That will be pushing the payload to it's limit tho, so looking ahead to the end of the lease (Oct 2010!) and all things being equal I still aim to be self employed owner operator and will probably go for a 650L 3 seater so a payload of 1000kg plus.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: Kev R on March 01, 2008, 06:27:05 am
The Dispatch is the 2.0 ltr version. I have a 500 ltr tank and two large DI vessels on my system. The Payload is 1200 kgs as its the LWB version. I also pull a trailer for commercial work and the 2.0 hdi ltr has no problems with the weight at all. It has three front seats. The Hand break is on the right of the drivers seat but Im getting used to that now.

I have it on a lease, I got it from Varitech as they have a deal with Citroen. I was amazed at the cost, a lot less than I thought and of course its good for tax purposes.

I have added a couple of inside pictures so you can see the space available.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/Kevinred101/van-1.jpg)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/Kevinred101/vanback-1.jpg)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/Kevinred101/sidedoor.jpg)

Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: Dean Aspects on March 01, 2008, 07:50:01 am
That looks really good with loads of space left
Just one question though should the tank be fitted nearer the middle of the van just for stability and spreading the load

Dean
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: jaykie on March 01, 2008, 08:02:34 am
Is that a purefreedoom set up, and i was going to say the same as Aspects about tank being in middle, looking for my van now as got 7.5k but cant think what to get, my purefreedom system is going to be 3.5k so got 4k left, am looking at getting a 52 reg vivaro or trafic, or does anyone else have any other makes i should look at.

Chris
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: Dean Aspects on March 01, 2008, 08:11:19 am
Is that a purefreedoom set up, and i was going to say the same as Aspects about tank being in middle, looking for my van now as got 7.5k but cant think what to get, my purefreedom system is going to be 3.5k so got 4k left, am looking at getting a 52 reg vivaro or trafic, or does anyone else have any other makes i should look at.

Chris

Transit transporter vito hiace ducato
All have plus and minus points

Dean
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: cater on March 01, 2008, 08:33:15 am
hi kev r when you say low cost how long do you have the van over. and how much a month please. dont know if i should buy or lease ??????
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on March 01, 2008, 09:09:11 am
Well Ive got a Peugeot Expert 2.0 hdi, the engine in that is decent. Its not one of the new look ones, but as far as I know there is very little differnece between the models. Myself, I think its better to stick to Ford next time. There are more Fords in the UK so parts are cheaper etc etc and the French/Italian dont design their vans/cars so they can be fixed simply enough, Luke
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: matt on March 01, 2008, 09:24:30 am
i prefere the cit H van

(http://www.frenchclassics.co.uk/updates/hvan.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: frames to panes on March 01, 2008, 09:26:41 am
Does it come with chickens?
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: matt on March 01, 2008, 09:57:06 am
Does it come with chickens?

not from the factory no, but i belive you can get them as a optional extra
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: Kev R on March 01, 2008, 06:11:13 pm
That looks really good with loads of space left
Just one question though should the tank be fitted nearer the middle of the van just for stability and spreading the load

Dean

The van has active air suspension so its not a problem. Would be in a normal van though.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: Kev R on March 01, 2008, 06:13:21 pm
Is that a purefreedoom set up,

Chris

The system came from Varitech.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: Kev R on March 01, 2008, 06:19:46 pm
hi kev r when you say low cost how long do you have the van over. and how much a month please. dont know if i should buy or lease ??????

Best to phone Varitech for a quote for a price as It does depend on the options you have. I got a good deal as its on a 57 plate and the 08 is just starting.

If you lease a van you get the hole cost of the "hire" back as each payment is tax deductible, where as if you buy a van you get 50% of its value in the first year and 25% of its value in subsequent years.


For me its worth it as the new vans lease payment relates to 1 days work a month. So for me its a good way of continuing to have nice vehicles to promote my business.

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: ants on March 02, 2008, 12:00:06 am
Swiss Leasing are offering SCUDOS for £153 down then x59 £153 a month  +vat .Balloon payment at the end of £4500,but I think you can just hand it back instead if you want.
I cant decide wether to get one,or buy an ex Sky van
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: david wood on March 02, 2008, 07:35:19 am
ive just got a new expert and there great .and had 3 seats fitted in the back for the kids still plenty of room but does lower the pay load
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: vision tech on March 10, 2008, 11:44:44 pm
kev r,where is varitech ,have they got a website ,i would be interested in leasing van and system if the price is right.
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: Kev R on March 11, 2008, 06:18:45 am
kev r,where is varitech ,have they got a website ,i would be interested in leasing van and system if the price is right.

Varitech are Based in Newton Abbot in Devon, They don't have a website but they can be contacted on 01626 830830. Richard is the name of the chap that deals with the leases.

I got a really good deal and was surprised how low the payments were. Mention my name it may help as I have spent many many thousands with them this year!
Title: Re: NEW CITROEN VAN?
Post by: Alex Wingrove on March 11, 2008, 08:34:13 am
Is that a purefreedoom set up, and i was going to say the same as Aspects about tank being in middle, looking for my van now as got 7.5k but cant think what to get, my purefreedom system is going to be 3.5k so got 4k left, am looking at getting a 52 reg vivaro or trafic, or does anyone else have any other makes i should look at.

Chris

You will be riddled with problems if you but a vivaro/traffic/primastar for under £6500, and below 52 and reasonable millage,

personally i would recommend, and ex BT van, if you get it around 70,000 miles it will still have loads of life left, BT really look after their vans and it shows,

They have a 1200kg payload, programmable  eberscaper heater in the back, hot water heater, safety deposit box,

If you dont want any of these things you can sell them for near £300, and there is also the racking, which is secured to the chassis, so makes mounting a tank super easy,

You could make your self a diy system you know for half of what you are going to pay, and despite what people tell you ratchet straps secured to the chassis via a steel frame is more than enough

oh yeah its got a bulk head too