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Title: microbore leaks
Post by: dave0123 on February 28, 2008, 05:47:43 pm


Im using a trolley and using microbore hose with microbore tap vale for easy on and off of the water! i Ptfe all the connections at the vale tap! which has stopped all leaks but now have a leak at the trolley end! iv tried 2 jublie clips and they just over tighten and dont stop it!! anyone got any ideas to stop it??

also the as you can see the below the hozelock connector has starded to leek now!! i belive the brass ones are better? but anyone got any ideas to stop the leaks?

i have microbore connected to te intlet of this!! pleaseee helpp
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: dave0123 on February 28, 2008, 07:02:21 pm
anyone  :'(
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 28, 2008, 07:11:53 pm
Dave is that Scrims trolley, looks good. Anyway, you may need to use o clips instead of jubilles and use better connectors, Luke
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: Jon-scwindows on February 28, 2008, 07:22:43 pm
i would take the jubilee clip off and the hose, wrap a load of ptfe tape tightly round the male tail from the pump, then push the hose over that, and wrap some more around where the jubilee clip would go, then tighten it over that, sometimes the jubilee clips can squeese, but miss squeesing one part around the hose, and that bit leaks.
The brass ones are much better, but get the ones with the metal balls that hold the connector in rather than brass ones with the plastic clips inside.


Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: NWH on February 28, 2008, 07:25:51 pm
Change to minibore connections.
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 28, 2008, 07:26:41 pm
The microbore/minibore connectors are alot better, Luke
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: dave0123 on February 28, 2008, 07:42:04 pm
its when i connect my microbore into the hozlock connectuion above^ then the hose tail leaks. the above jublie clip to the pump is fine.

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Dave is that Scrims trolley, looks good. Anyway, you may need to use o clips instead of jubilles and use better connectors, Luke

Yer its scrim shady trolley its great little thing.

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i would take the jubilee clip off and the hose, wrap a load of ptfe tape tightly round the male tail from the pump, then push the hose over that, and wrap some more around where the jubilee clip would go, then tighten it over that, sometimes the jubilee clips can squeese, but miss squeesing one part around the hose, and that bit leaks.
The brass ones are much better, but get the ones with the metal balls that hold the connector in rather than brass ones with the plastic clips inside.

you mean over the hose tail before i connect it to the hozelock conector above?

"wrap some more around where the jubilee clip would go" exactly were do you mean on that sounds like you ment outside of the hose which carnt be right lol

dave
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 28, 2008, 07:42:50 pm
has it got your logo on the trolley? Luke
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: NWH on February 28, 2008, 07:44:53 pm
I would still change to minibore,the only thing plastic is good for is on the system where there`s no strain on them,there plugged in together and left alone with no stress or pulling on them.
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: dave0123 on February 28, 2008, 07:49:36 pm
iv only just bought microbore tho! dont really want to change everything again
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 28, 2008, 07:53:09 pm
Just put the microbore fitting in, same thing, Luke
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: Jon-scwindows on February 28, 2008, 07:53:49 pm
get a 8mm (microbore) schrader female water stop ez snap connector, for the end of the hose, or buy one from me £10 each :-)

yes i do mean on the inside where the hose would go over, and on the outside of the hose, ive done this before, it takes up the space that the jubilee clip misses underneathe the screw. Or it could be the size of the jubilee clip either, get a smaller one, or take it off and use pliers to bend it to a more round shape. Dont tighten too much though as it will squish the plastic tail.
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: dave0123 on February 28, 2008, 07:57:52 pm
Thanks! il give that ago because doing a conservatory roof clean tommrow! then gett microbore connectors



Tar  4 ya help :)
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 28, 2008, 08:20:10 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on February 28, 2008, 08:37:17 pm
a good alternative to hozelocks are GECA fittings....i just wish i could find pics or post em
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 28, 2008, 08:39:12 pm
http://www.easywatering.co.uk/acatalog/Geka.html
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on February 28, 2008, 08:57:59 pm
nice one luke ;D ;D ;D i use the hose end couplings to attatch reel to trolley,cheaper than hozelocks ,the washers cost pence and best of all......NEVER LEAK ;D.....really not at all
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: dave0123 on February 28, 2008, 09:31:33 pm
I havent seen those connections before.
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on February 28, 2008, 09:35:45 pm
imo they are shot hot  ;D if you need to connect hose to hose,can be difficult to seperate if under pressure tho but guarentee no leaks ;D ;D ;D cheap too and mega tough
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: dave0123 on February 28, 2008, 09:38:10 pm
cool.

how do you connect hose to them then looks like you need something else 2 connect to the little arms that come out.
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on February 28, 2008, 09:40:43 pm
you buy 2  ;D they interlock, push together and twist,simple and sound ;)
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: dave0123 on February 28, 2008, 09:45:33 pm

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has it got your logo on the trolley? Luke

sorry luke only just seen that post. yes it has got my logo on it well its more of a written logo wih tel number on.

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you buy 2   they interlock, push together and twist,simple and sound

ahh right i seee :P
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on March 19, 2008, 08:39:11 pm
bump ;D
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: dave0123 on March 19, 2008, 08:46:47 pm
burp
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on March 19, 2008, 10:39:44 pm
Just an idea coming from a different direction.  Is it possible to adjust the point at which the pump cuts out?  Like a screw on a pressure switch.  This would help stop a build up of pressure and therefor have less leaky joints. 

Simon.
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on March 19, 2008, 10:47:22 pm
good point simon
this post is only up top tho cos someone asked about leaky hozelocks and i bumped it to show pics of geka fittings .....but they dont seem interested :( i yhink dave sorted his original prob ;) do these trolleys have a varistream ???
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: dave0123 on March 19, 2008, 11:02:18 pm
I did sort my problem thanks thorpe ;D


the hozelock connection on the trolley still leaks a tinyyyyy bit which i will replace to a brass one soon.

my trolley has a veristream! how long is your system sposed to shut off? after closing your pole tap mines takes abount 2-3 seconds sometimes its around 5- 7 then comes on now n then for second or 2 to keep pressure in the system so am told :)

dave
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on March 19, 2008, 11:14:56 pm
the pump coming on is "cycling" and its caused by a leak in the system somewhere (maybe really tiny)the pressure drops and the pump takes up the slack (so to speak) as for shut off time i find it varies on length of hose thats rolled out,battery power,height of brush etc....or at least it seems to ???
the GEKA fittings really reduced the cycling on my set up but are limited in their use i spose :)
how come the bloke who asked about leaky hozelocks never replied ???
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: dave0123 on March 19, 2008, 11:22:21 pm
So is it normal to come off and on a when you have ur tap closed pump off? or is it not sposed to do that at all?

ye iv noticed that it varies alot! its just the hose doing my head in now lol.

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how come the bloke who asked about leaky hozelocks never replied 

dont no lol
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on March 19, 2008, 11:33:08 pm
A varistream will fire the pump up for a fraction of a second every now and then just to see if the pressure has dropped, if it has then it will turn the pump on until the pressure builds up again. 

You can lower the pressure at which the pump cuts out, this will not lower the flow rate, but it will help with your leaky connections.  A bit of experimenting might be in order.  It's easily possible on max  setting on the varistream that your pump will blow the tightest of connections, as there is now pressure switch to tell it to stop.

Simon.
Title: Re: microbore leaks
Post by: dave0123 on March 20, 2008, 12:02:37 am
thanks for that