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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Kev Loomes on February 26, 2008, 05:14:42 pm
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Anyone heard of these before? Can they be run off domestic mains on 2 cords - if they were available in the UK?
http://morecfm.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=34&products_id=67&osCsid=2b282aed32f81f29a87ced93e8430aa8
They've even pimped a Mytee :o
http://morecfm.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=87&osCsid=2b282aed32f81f29a87ced93e8430aa8
Kev
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It appears it can be purchased and delivered to this country.
Only problem I would see is the amount of amps, 20 on each plug so its quite a load on the ring main. Standard ring is 32amps.
One plug would have to go in a cooker socket or on a different ring main
I think in some properties tripping may be a problem when it fully cranked up.
Regards
graham
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All singing and dancing Ninja 450psi with hose and wand for 2.5 grand delivered to your door :o
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Hopefully nobody takes these claims as serious....It is Kenny after all.
As long as you have 200 cfm arranged in air-parallel you will be fine with a Porty.
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I have to agree with greenie there! I ordered lips for my rotovac from that turboteck site about 2 years ago........the shipping is ever so slow.....I'm still waiting for my delivery......and e-mails dont seem to get through! ::) Jeff are you doing glides for the rotovac yet?
all the best
john
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Cant comment about delivery from turboteck but I have emailed him twice about 10 days ago and got reply back wihin hours - just have to get timing right because of the time difference between uk-us).
Already a portable machine on the UK market that can deliver 320cfm - and it works , plus 420cfm with an add on.
so the solution is nearer then you think.
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Such power is and has been available for a few years from more than one supplier............
rob
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Such power is and has been available for a few years from more than one supplier............
rob
Not in the States!
I can't lie to a potential customer, when you take a high cfm 2 stage vacuum motor and load it, ie: extracting wet carpet, you are lucky to have 1/2 the cfm as advertised....a far cry from what I call fair.
At some point you are better off with less total vacuum motors, and larger ones at that, and putting your money into common sense instead of numbers on paper.
Get a moderately high cfm motor and a moderately high waterlift motor with a moderately high amperage draw...and you will never look back....and no, it won't be 50 quid, likely 200!
A properly designed extractor does not need a separate vacuum booster, cause you would never run longer hose on it than would be required for optimum performance (50-75'), it's portable for a reason.
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Hi Joe,
It's nothing to do with time difference I was ripped off! and If you check out some of the U S bb's it's happened to them too! I buy most of my equipment direct from the states including 2 truckmounts and never had a problem and find the service they offer second to none.
All the best
John
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Jeff
I've been looking at American sites for years and have come accross a fair number of powerful portables.
However !
Technically, you appear to be endorsing something I've been saying for some time, but have been repeatedly shot at, for saying.....................that good engineering can overcome sheer power.
I found this to be the case as long as 10 years ago and have said so on here, but the " big is best " mindset dominates and having invested massive amounts of cash unnecessarily, nobody is going to back down and agree, there is another, less expensive way to get equally good results, from a lower powered and cheap to run machine.
rob
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Forget machine power.......good wand technique, that's whats important, zigg-zagging with the trigger pulled is our biggest fault ( and don't say you don't do it ;) ;) )
only pull the trigger on the back stroke 1 wet 2 dry, them move across 50%, don't give the solution time to get too deep into the carpet or you'll never pull it out.
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For years I did carpet cleaning as an extra to my cleaning business.
I used, and still have, a Numatic CTD575. I never overused dtergent, but to get a good reuslt (which is what I got) I had to do a lot of work, and I mean a lot of work - and I am the wrong side of 21 for that (then I was wrong side of 51).
Now I have a more poweful machine, I'm not afraid to do the work to get the result I am happy with. The difference is now (and am approaching 61) is the I am less tired at the end of a working day because , quiet rghtly, the machine is taking a lot of the work load..
I think the years of struggling with a small machine is now paying off.
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Well Mike just shows Ashbys got it wright when they showed me how to use a wand. ;D ;D ;D
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Well said Mr Halliday.............., if the tools are used correctly and you don't drench the carpet, you will get very acceptable results.
I know some will disagree as they think a carpet is not being cleaned properly if you dont saturate every micro millimetre of pile.
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touche' I concur technique is more important than machinery.
I must say on the subject of Yank portables, I'm too terribly impressed with all of our goofy lil' designs, like 4 - two stage motors in series....what were they thinking?
Since we are handicapped via 110v circuits and avail. amperage per lead, the sweet spot will always be two high perf. 3 stage vacs in parallel and as large a pump as you can get away with....Heat..no way.
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Since we are handicapped via 110v circuits and avail. amperage per lead, the sweet spot will always be two high perf. 3 stage vacs in parallel and as large a pump as you can get away with....Heat..no way.
Almost a Scorpion !
Scorpion has a 3rd 3 stage vac., a large pump, and (no reminder needed really - No Heat !
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Now you have mentioned scorpion ;D,
I had a SafeClean operator stop and talk to me yesterday, I do know the operator he lives in the same village as me, " strange I never seem to see him working in this area" however he stopped to tell me about his new machine, A Scorpon" albeit from ebay , "never seen one of them on ebay "
After a few mins of waffling, he said it would out perform any truckmont ;D I literaly laughed in his face,
but it has the booster, he said. but no heat I replied. Can you guess his answer?
you dont need, heat now their is a solution called micro splitters ,
Really, i said, in amazment thats marvelous .
Now it got me wondering, especialy when he told be that a new product had just come out called , "forgive me tham name may be slighly differnt to what he said, Allergn cure or something similar
and it stops mrsa. I was thinking , this man has been indoctrinated by somebody here.
does anybody know if Safeclean, have any accosiation with a certain company?
geoff
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A certain company do training for Safeclean .
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Solutions secured the deal with Safeclean to supply machines and chems, well done I say!
Mike
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As i suspected,
so why would he tell me he bought the scorpion of ebay, and is the allergy product he was rabbiting on about Alergenstop?
geoff
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Mr Cook must be spinning on his bed of natural sponges.............did anyone else attend a Safeclean presentation about 12 years ago. Spellbinding !!!!!!!!
rob
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I spoke to my local Safeclean franchise in January and he said that he was using the new stuff and the allergy stuff also but he said he prefered the other stuff before, he didn't have a scorpion as I asked him he was still happy with his Alltec proplus.
Shaun
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Im not conversant with the Alltec Pro Plus machine, does anyone know the specification of it.?
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I was talking to Safeclean guy i know in Battersea and he was raving about his new solutions ............. until i told him i have been using similar stuff for 3 years :o
Never realised that Nick supplies machines to them as well ::) .............. i do hope they are not using AllergSTOP in my area >:(
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I was talking to Safeclean guy i know in Battersea and he was raving about his new solutions ............. until i told him i have been using similar stuff for 3 years :o
Never realised that Nick supplies machines to them as well ::) .............. i do hope they are not using AllergSTOP in my area >:(
Chris
Where are you going to get your allerg-stop from now?
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2 x 7.5" lamb vacs and various pumps from 100psi upwards, I've had 1 and it was built to last for ever I eventually sold mine on.
Shaun
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I spoke to my local Safeclean franchise in January and he said that he was using the new stuff and the allergy stuff also but he said he prefered the other stuff before, he didn't have a scorpion as I asked him he was still happy with his Alltec proplus.
Shaun
Found out what I think is the spec of the Sahara ProPlus - its a Pro with the addition (Plus) of an extra vac motor.
So on the Alltec 2x3 stage vacs, 100psi pump, 1.5" hoses, heat at 50degree, 40 litre / 35 litre tanks
On the Scorpion 3x3 stage vacs, 500psi pump, 2" hoses, no heat but 50 degree is mildly hot tap water, 72 litre /68 litre tanks.
and he was "still happy" with the Alltec Proplus....... mmm! ............ takes all sorts.
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Got a fair bit as i bought up Peter Reeds stock of 5l containers ..................... running out of sprays though :(
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Shaun,
the same guy also told me the altec was a load of crap, not what his version was before.
Chris, I think, but not 100% sure that the alergen product going into Safeclean certainly looks like the stuff your using,
Thats the impression I got anyway from the operator.
Geoff
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Got a fair bit as i bought up Peter Reeds stock of 5l containers ..................... running out of sprays though :(
I thought it only had a one year shelf life?At least that's what we were told
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I believe the Advantage is the new Pro plus but the differences are 1 less vac but the vac sizes are different scorpions are 5.8" where alltec use 7.5 so there is a difference but not as much as you think also they have an optional 200psi pump although I understand you can now get bigger and the heat is far more.
Adding a 2" port is not rocket science I have opened my 2 ports up so I recieve 2 lots of 2" to a Y and then 2.5" and it took a few minutes so that's a bit of a nonsense really.
When I was down in Cornwall at Hydramaster they had a Safeclean franchisee with a Boxxer 421 in the back of his van!
Shaun
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Ive had 2 pro plus machines, they go on for ever and clean just as well as my scorpion, just a bit slower, longer dry times and you cant use as much hose. I know guys who turned over 20k a month using these with multi vans.
Have you been to the Safeclean website? There product is called Allergy-out, don't know if its the same product but with there national presence advertising allergy treatments it can only be good for cleaners who already sell this type product.
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I believe the Advantage is the new Pro plus but the differences are 1 less vac but the vac sizes are different scorpions are 5.8" where alltec use 7.5 so there is a difference but not as much as you think also they have an optional 200psi pump although I understand you can now get bigger and the heat is far more.
Adding a 2" port is not rocket science I have opened my 2 ports up so I recieve 2 lots of 2" to a Y and then 2.5" and it took a few minutes so that's a bit of a nonsense really.
When I was down in Cornwall at Hydramaster they had a Safeclean franchisee with a Boxxer 421 in the back of his van!
Shaun
Shaun would 2.5" make ant difference to the prowler?
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The Advantage is the new Pro Plus - and doesnt have one less vac! (sorry Shaun), 2 x 3 stage as normal. Its basically exactly the same the only difference is the layout to make it easier to service the motors. The quality of them are superb and last forever.
I would imagine that the 'Allergy Out' is identicle to Solutions AllergStop - as they supply Safeclean. Sounds like a re-badged effort to me. The new guy at Safeclean (he used to run a franchise himself until offered a good sales job - then to run it) apparently had a falling out with Alltec when he had a franchise - hence now using Solutions.
Kev
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Kev it has one less vac than a Scorpion.
Steve a prowler would crucify any porti on a power issue but this is not about that and neither is it a knock Scorpion day!!
Shaun
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See where your coming from now Shaun - I thought you meant Pro Plus ::)
Kev
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no pro plus is what I have to keep me rockin :o
Shaun
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Geoff,
Nick says you are a lying git ;) who's telling the truth?
cut & pasted from Cleantalk
As I am unable to reply on there and many of you use both forums I felt it necessary to comment,
The "local" Safeclean technician does not live in the same village, nor does he operate a Scorpion (yet)
Nor has any Scorpion been sold on Ebay,
So why the post other than to cause trouble and misinformation (again)
In fact the safeclean technicians report of the "conversation" is totally different.
Regards Nick
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;D ;D ;
http://www.safeclean.co.uk/search.php
type in my postcode, and hey presto Dennis is their, he lives in same village, unless he has suddenly moved.
He , definatly said he had a scorpion, with a booster , When I said you must have bought that from Solutions , he said "from ebay "
Why would I make this up?
and why would hesay , that they are now using a new alergen product?
So, Nick, is the lying git,
and if he has a differnt version of the conversation perhaps he should enlighten me, rest assured
my version is exactly has it was told.
Nick, try been honest about things for a change
geoff
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I know who I would believe ::) ::)
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Geoff,
Nick should thank you, his 'right to reply' topic has been the most interesting topic on cleantalk for a long while, if you had'nt posted it would never have been started
mike
ps are you coming to Amsterdam?
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Mike I tried ringing you, dont think your phones working, well 0800 number isnt.
Yes , Will be coming to amsterdam if the dates are ok, I have to go to the Dorchester in London on the 9th May for a couple of days.
cant say no :) ;) my relation , " you know who " cant say on here .has taken it over for a couple of days , a birthday bash . No doubt be flying in some super stars for the event so I cant turn that down ;D
but if dates ok I am def coming.
Shame , i wont be allowed on cleantalk , would love to see whats happening :)
geoff