Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: frames to panes on February 25, 2008, 08:19:18 pm
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What i mean is, if you have a limited supply of water do you automatically scrimp on your rinsing?
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You either scrimp on rinsing or waste time with extra filling up! Give me a van mount any day!!! ;D
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Hi DJW (TOTALLY IGNORING GROUNDHOG ;D ;D ;D)
Yes I did when I first used my backpack ::)
Now I have got used to it and know how long it will last and can work quicker with pole and brush I use setting 2 all the time. Gives a good wash and rince and you tend to work quicker.
David
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Ditto David ;)
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You either scrimp on rinsing or waste time with extra filling up! Give me a van mount any day!!! ;D
agreed im sure those backpacks are for killing weeds and watering flowers :P
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i have a static system in my van and i have a backpack. But i never use the van system.
The backpack is much easier for getting access to the backs of houses and it means you can clean in a highly pedestrianised area without the fear of people falling over your hoses! ;)
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i have a static system in my van and i have a backpack. But i never use the van system.
The backpack is much easier for getting access to the backs of houses and it means you can clean in a highly pedestrianised area without the fear of people falling over your hoses! ;)
ey
Do you have a trolley or do you wear it like a backpacker?
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A backpack is only easier if you have backpack awkward work end of,if you do a lot of estates and terrace houses then it`s probobly quicker,but any house with good access and plenty of window`s don`t kid yourself thinking that a backpack is better than a van mount.
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Don't ask me, I'm a serious back pack abuser. Can anyone lend me a backpack, lol.
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i have a static system in my van and i have a backpack. But i never use the van system.
The backpack is much easier for getting access to the backs of houses and it means you can clean in a highly pedestrianised area without the fear of people falling over your hoses! ;)
Totally agree with that
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here we go ;D ;D ;D
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surely those back pack things do your back in all that lifting and bending picking up those dozen barrels can't be good for anyone!!
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A backpack is only easier if you have backpack awkward work end of,if you do a lot of estates and terrace houses then it`s probobly quicker,but any house with good access and plenty of window`s don`t kid yourself thinking that a backpack is better than a van mount.
I wouldn't argue with this either
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MJH don`t buy 1,unless your using it to apply loads of TFR mix for massive conservatory roofs.
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AS FOR THAT WAYNE THOMAS >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
The GHOSTBUSTERS APPRECIATION SOCIETY has a contract out on you me old son ;D ;D ;D
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i dont wear it like a backpack your right it would do my back in. instead i just lift it. you can lift it with one hand, then i just put it over one should to the front of the house, clean the front then pick it up and take it around the back and clean all the back.
Im only 23, so maybe its my age, but i have no problem doing this.
But if i used a van system for a huge house, or a secluded commercial premises i think your right, the van system would be better.
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i dont wear it like a backpack your right it would do my back in. instead i just lift it. you can lift it with one hand, then i just put it over one should to the front of the house, clean the front then pick it up and take it around the back and clean all the back.
Im only 23, so maybe its my age, but i have no problem doing this.
But if i used a van system for a huge house, or a secluded commercial premises i think your right, the van system would be better.
Im 28 and reasonably strong but i still couldnt see myself walking around 20 houses with a back pack on filling the thing up every 5 minutes, i would also feel totally daft!!
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Vanmount get to first job turn on varistream and work,backpack get to work lugg 18 heavy ltrs around a house and then go back to van and fill it up again,vanmount turn off varistream drive home put my feet up.Backpack go home fill up all the spare barrels i`m going to need for the next day and then take the batterys in and have to charge them for the next days work,then go to the osteopath for lower back pain due to constantly lifting barrels of water around allday long and this is without having to actually clean the window`s which over the course of the day if you`ve done a lot of work can take it out of you.
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every 5 minutes... come on.
I know your exaggerating to make a point, but you really dont waste a lot of time.
With a van system you are wasting a little bit of time every stop reeling in your hose, that adds up. Not to mention finding a good parking space, and moving the van every few houses.
To refill the backpack takes literally about 10 seconds and it takes 25 seconds to walk to the van then 25 seconds back to the house. So you waste about a minute every 20 minutes or so, max. Not a lot of time really.
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Hi DJW (TOTALLY IGNORING GROUNDHOG ;D ;D ;D)
David
Ignore me all you like, because I won't go away! You just don't like it because I tell it like it is!!! ;D
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Vanmount get to first job turn on varistream and work,backpack get to work lugg 18 heavy ltrs around a house and then go back to van and fill it up again,vanmount turn off varistream drive home put my feet up.Backpack go home fill up all the spare barrels i`m going to need for the next day and then take the batterys in and have to charge them for the next days work,then go to the osteopath for lower back pain due to constantly lifting barrels of water around allday long and this is without having to actually clean the window`s which over the course of the day if you`ve done a lot of work can take it out of you.
Lifting Barrels ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
NO, No, NO
I use a transfer pump straight from my tank to fill the BP up and fill up my tank at night..............Just like you
i dont wear it like a backpack your right it would do my back in. instead i just lift it. you can lift it with one hand, then i just put it over one should to the front of the house, clean the front then pick it up and take it around the back and clean all the back.
Im only 23, so maybe its my age, but i have no problem doing this.
But if i used a van system for a huge house, or a secluded commercial premises i think your right, the van system would be better.
LIFT IT :o :o :o :o
Now that WILL DO yer back in :o
I NEVER lift it up full. I have it mounted on the back of my trailer at back height so all I do is unstrap it back up to it harness on and very slightly lift and away I go.
Mind you I am TWICE your age ;D ;D
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here we go ;D ;D ;D
Peanut butter & jelly sandwitches with a smackerel of honey? ;D
Tony
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Evenin' Tony ;)
Backpack and a FACELIFT pole is the perfect combination for a higgldy piggldy house round ;) ;) ;)
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Hey Tony, there's one of them poles for sale on this site, is that a good price?
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i dont wear it like a backpack your right it would do my back in. instead i just lift it. you can lift it with one hand, then i just put it over one should to the front of the house, clean the front then pick it up and take it around the back and clean all the back.
Im only 23, so maybe its my age, but i have no problem doing this.
But if i used a van system for a huge house, or a secluded commercial premises i think your right, the van system would be better.
LIFT IT :o :o :o :o
Now that WILL DO yer back in :o
I NEVER lift it up full. I have it mounted on the back of my trailer at back height so all I do is unstrap it back up to it harness on and very slightly lift and away I go.
Mind you I am TWICE your age ;D ;D
I'm not stupid with it mind. I always make sure I bend my legs when i lift, not bending my back. ;) ;D
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Backpack and a FACELIFT pole is the perfect combination for a higgldy piggldy house round ;) ;) ;)
My advice would be to get yourself some decent work and a proper system! And leave the higgledy piggledy stuff to the amateurs!! ;D ;)
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If I could carry my backpack I know it is a great way to get to awkward windows. If you are strong enough then you have got the best system for wfp, residential. But if you are not strong enough then it is impossible. You have to look for an alternative method. But don't knock anyone who is using it just because you can't. Looking at David Salkield's avatar, if that is him and he carries a backpack, well I am sure he makes as much an hour/or does as much work per man as anyone, whatever their system.
Oh and it isn't based just on the system, it's based on the type of building/client that you are working on/for. Accessibility etc.
End of argument
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Evenin' Tony ;)
Backpack and a FACELIFT pole is the perfect combination for a higgldy piggldy house round ;) ;) ;)
Evening Mr. D. Ltd
BTW, what's a facelift pole? ??? ;)
Tony
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Looking at David Salkield's avatar, if that is him and he carries a backpack, well I am sure he makes as much an hour/or does as much work per man as anyone, whatever their system.
End of argument
If David makes as much money as I do using my van mount with his little back pack then I will gladly eat my hat!! ;)
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End of argument
Ditto PJ
I'm off to bed.
Got to get me rest for "luggin'" me BP about tommorrow ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Nite Nite All
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Looking at David Salkield's avatar, if that is him and he carries a backpack, well I am sure he makes as much an hour/or does as much work per man as anyone, whatever their system.
End of argument
If David makes as much money as I do using my van mount with his little back pack then I will gladly eat my hat!! ;)
Red or Brown sauce on yer hat ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Hey Tony, there's one of them poles for sale on this site, is that a good price?
Don't know dave as i don't know the current retail price of the pole, the problem we now have is the sl-x, be a shame to spend more on the facelift if the sl-x turns out to be the better pole & it does sound promising. shouldn't be too long to wait now to see. ;)
Tony
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Mr Ground hog
You probably have a specific day in mind?
Mr Salkeld probably has a different day in mind.
Why don't you leave him to his, and he'll leave you to your's ;)
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Red or Brown sauce on yer hat ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
In your dreams mate, I'd go to bed if I were you! ;)
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Mr Ground hog
You probably have a specific day in mind?
Mr Salkeld probably has a different day in mind.
Why don't you leave him to his, and he'll leave you to your's ;)
Why don't you mind your own business!!! >:(
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Mr Ground hog
You probably have a specific day in mind?
Mr Salkeld probably has a different day in mind.
Why don't you leave him to his, and he'll leave you to your's ;)
im with groundhog day here
afterall he has a min charge of 25 quid, so that average 3 bed house that David does for 10 quid, groundhog day will get 25 quid
:P
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im with groundhog day here
afterall he has a min charge of 25 quid, so that average 3 bed house that David does for 10 quid, groundhog day will get 25 quid
:P
Plus I will probably do it twice as quickly!!! ;)
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i dont know whats up with all you girly van mount guys i carry two backpacks in one hand a spare barrel of water in the other and a 24ft universal pole between my teeth ;D you lot must be these new metrosexuals man with moustache but wears a skirt ;D ;D ;D ;D
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i dont know whats up with all you girly van mount guys
There's nothing girly about my 600ltr van mount! But a 20ltr backpack, now thats what I call Girly!!! ;D
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i dont know whats up with all you girly van mount guys
There's nothing girly about my 600ltr van mount! But a 20ltr backpack, now thats what I call Girly!!! ;D
only 600ltr (that's for girls), mines 650 ltr, lol
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Groundhog you are a self opinionated t**t who is always trying to wind people up without consideration for the fact that we all prefer different working methods. We have had this berfore so why cant you just accept it and move on like agrown up.
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i dont know whats up with all you girly van mount guys
There's nothing girly about my 600ltr van mount! But a 20ltr backpack, now thats what I call Girly!!! ;D
huh 600ltrs nothing! i could hold more water in my bladder ;D
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Groundhog you are a self opinionated t**t who is always trying to wind people up without consideration for the fact that we all prefer different working methods. We have had this berfore so why cant you just accept it and move on like agrown up.
And your easier than most to wind up, but then most scummers are!
;D ;)
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If I could carry my backpack I know it is a great way to get to awkward windows. If you are strong enough then you have got the best system for wfp, residential. But if you are not strong enough then it is impossible. You have to look for an alternative method. But don't knock anyone who is using it just because you can't. Looking at David Salkield's avatar, if that is him and he carries a backpack, well I am sure he makes as much an hour/or does as much work per man as anyone, whatever their system.
Oh and it isn't based just on the system, it's based on the type of building/client that you are working on/for. Accessibility etc.
End of argument
So right. Van mount etc etc. Fantastic for some jobs. P*sh for others. Let's just clean windows. Some suit van wfp. some backpack wfp, some trad. Who cares/ Clean them and get paid.
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i dont know whats up with all you girly van mount guys
There's nothing girly about my 600ltr van mount! But a 20ltr backpack, now thats what I call Girly!!! ;D
If a BP is "Girly" then it aint gonna do yer back in ;) ;)