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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Dan Williams on February 24, 2008, 03:47:39 pm

Title: Scotchgard
Post by: Dan Williams on February 24, 2008, 03:47:39 pm
Does anyone use scotchgard or advertise it? ???

what is the response?

I know there are other protectors but everyone just knows scotchgard.

Dan
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: mark shannon on February 24, 2008, 03:57:32 pm
Prochem have started selling it so must be OK to advertise it.
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: *paul_moss on February 24, 2008, 03:58:01 pm
Dan you have answered your own question.

Most know Scotchgard and ask for it, but it is more costly.
Chemspec protector I find very good on carpets and more cost effective, also Solugard is good for Upholstery.
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: Dan Williams on February 24, 2008, 04:11:25 pm
Thanks paul:)

Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: calmore on February 24, 2008, 07:36:54 pm
I generally use the Prochem stuff and advertise it as "Stain Guard".

If people ask for "Scotchgard" I steer them towards the Prochem stuff as it costs them less money!
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: Kev R on February 24, 2008, 07:48:25 pm
I asked the same questions on here a few weeks ago. Last night I did a job for a local hotel which involved treating 110 chairs.

I used Craftex fabric protector. The application was really easy and the results seem very good. I priced it up against a few similar products and it was about middle of the road when you calculated price per sq m coverage.

I did not want to use a solvent based product initially but while looking into the one green product available I could find , I noticed that you had to apply this green product to freshly cleaned with no detergents present upholstery etc. The chairs I did were new and didn't need cleaning prior to application so I didn't know if detergents had been used or not previously buy the manufacturer. So I opted for the safe bet. If I was offering this to a customer of mine I would choose the green alternative though. I hope this ramble makes sense?

Kev  ;D
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: *paul_moss on February 24, 2008, 07:53:48 pm
Kev did you mist them first with water before applying the protector.
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: Mike Roper on February 24, 2008, 07:57:27 pm
All protectors need to be applied to new or freshly cleaned with no detergent residue.Surely if the seating was new then theres no problem with the 'green' one.
The only problem I could see was if the green one was water based and the fabric was water sensitive.
Mike
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: Kev R on February 24, 2008, 07:59:31 pm
I did not mist with water first, It just said apply with an upholstery sprayer in the directions, nothing about misting first?
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: Kev R on February 24, 2008, 08:01:38 pm
All protectors need to be applied to new or freshly cleaned with no detergent residue.Surely if the seating was new then theres no problem with the 'green' one.
The only problem I could see was if the green one was water based and the fabric was water sensitive.
Mike

Mike I wasn't sure if the "detergent residue" would be present from manufacture or not. If I had cleaned them first I would know but I was playing safe. This was my first job with a protector.
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: Mike Roper on February 24, 2008, 08:09:52 pm
Kev , I think you have to take it new stuff will be ok , I protect new suites for a retailer and assume that.
Mike
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: Kev R on February 24, 2008, 08:11:50 pm
Thanks Mike, I will remember that in the future.

Do you mist first?


Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: *paul_moss on February 24, 2008, 08:18:57 pm
It depends on the flock, if it is quite heavy/dense then its worth misting first with water or else when you spray the protctor on it will absorb and penetrate very quick and you will go through loads of protector, which isnt a prob, but just costs you twice as much.
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: Kev R on February 24, 2008, 08:24:28 pm
It depends on the flock, if it is quite heavy/dense then its worth misting first with water or else when you spray the protctor on it will absorb and penetrate very quick and you will go through loads of protector, which isnt a prob, but just costs you twice as much.

Thanks for the advise Paul. The upholstery material was a flat weave type. Phew! I thought I had messed up  :o
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: Mike Roper on February 24, 2008, 09:04:30 pm
With upholstery protector you need to use a very fine T jet , especially with water based .Without going to the van I think its a 650065.
Mike
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: Ian Gourlay on February 25, 2008, 07:19:37 am
If you ask Solutions they will tell you that for Sologuard to work its got to be on detergent free material

I did use it on a new carpet, and a suite  I cleaned with Ultimate Maste

It was three years ago  no complaint from the retailer I did carpet for or the customer regarding the suite.  I see both on a regular basis.

Obviiously without Lab tests  Ive no idea

Yet another long list of jobs for my son when he enters the real world after the past 10 as a Student
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: *paul_moss on February 25, 2008, 07:12:43 pm
Ant body tried the new Scotchgard, is it as good as the old one?
Title: Re: Scotchgard
Post by: mark shannon on February 25, 2008, 07:43:23 pm
Don't know i never used the old one but it comes in 3.liters containers so i presume its formulated for American market, not as much wool over there apparently.

I asked A&M watford price £40+vat girl at Express said they did not have price yet