Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Clear Vision on February 22, 2008, 06:43:41 pm
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Just got one on demonstration this weekend and my first impression is that it's VERY VERY small in the back!! :(
Its lovely to drive and handles well but the space issue in the rear is really putting me off.
I drive a transit swb at the moment and its a lot bigger. I have a 650L upright tank and fitting that into the trafic would be pretty tight. Also I tried my 18ft 3 section facelift pole in it and its a bit of a squash.
I was wondering does anyone else have this vehicle and how do you fit all your gear in it.
Pics would be nice if anyone has any.
P.S. the long wheel base isn't an option because of the price.
Thanks
Matthew
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how much have you got to spend
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i have the vivaro and had the transit b4 but i think there almost the same.
i have a upright 650l and there is plenty of space!
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There`s plenty of room in that van for a 650ltr easy,it`s a lovley looking van and perfect for our WFP work.Which engine do you have on load,and what does it go like.
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dont get too blinkered, lwb toyota on an 08 plate is just over £14,500 and that includes the VAT or a pre reg citroen relay mwb-medium roof for 12,500 plus VAT. How much are you looking to pay for the renault
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I've only got 400L in mine, but to be fair I could probably fit 3 of them in there.
Are you sure it's not a Renault Kangoo?
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had a 650 upright in mine no problems, but was short and had trouble with the old universal poles, with the x-tel type poles it no prob due to there short lengths. brilliant van apart from the gearbox going, but i believe they sorted that problem on later vehicles.
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I would have thought the same as you squeeky, its just the french version of a transit so it shouldnt be that small in the back, somewhere around the 2.3 metre mark I would have thought
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I've only got 400L in mine, but to be fair I could probably fit 3 of them in there.
Are you sure it's not a Renault Kangoo?
LOL.
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no the traffic is a little shorter inside than the swb transit
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It's still big enough... ::) ;D
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A Renault Trafic yesterday...
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how much have you got to spend
£12500 inc vat
There`s plenty of room in that van for a 650ltr easy,it`s a lovley looking van and perfect for our WFP work.Which engine do you have on load,and what does it go like.
I think it's the 2 litre turbo diesel. It has the 6 speed box and is the sl27 115 model.
It's hard to keep it under 80mph!!!
dont get too blinkered, lwb toyota on an 08 plate is just over £14,500 and that includes the VAT or a pre reg citroen relay mwb-medium roof for 12,500 plus VAT. How much are you looking to pay for the renault
10,250 + vat for the trafic. Thats what I was quoted
no the traffic is a little shorter inside than the swb transit
Totally agree
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10,250 + vat for the trafic. Thats what I was quoted
Suspiciously cheap. ???
I'm paying £15,200 all in.
Don't know that that works out at before vat, but it's certainly more than £10250.
I asked at a main dealer and they said even at 0% (which they couldn't do) it would still be £14,000.
The van retails at roughly £15k.
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renault traffic .in tredeger , wales .same price .10250plus vat
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The new trafic is £13650 inc vat,mind you it`s the basic one.With air-con plus pack it`s about another £500.
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I got air-con, cd player and electrics.
Insisted on the air-con!
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You could have got it cheaper if you`d paid cash,they do 2 different deals and they don`t always tell you that.Because at the moment it makes no difference to them as it`s 0%,normally your looking at 4-5-6% interest so having it on finance is good for them and there finance company,as i say at the moment if your paying cash you can get a much better deal ie extras thrown in and a lower overall price,with air-con metallic paint and electrics you can get one for £13650 inc vat.
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10,250 + vat for the trafic. Thats what I was quoted
Suspiciously cheap. ???
I'm paying £15,200 all in.
Don't know that that works out at before vat, but it's certainly more than £10250.
I asked at a main dealer and they said even at 0% (which they couldn't do) it would still be £14,000.
The van retails at roughly £15k.
Not at all suspicious!
You never take the the price shown on the forecourt or the book price.
A lot of garages will sell the odd one at cost price just to meet there sales targets for the month/quarter.
I have had 3 quotes all offering it at £10,250+vat.
Yes its for the basic one but it still has a 6 speed box and central locking and a cd player. Thats all I need.
Why anyone would bother getting air con fitted as an extra is well beyond me!! I would understand If you lived in a very hot country but this is Britain. Just my opinion.
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now this is swb
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Why anyone would bother getting air con fitted as an extra is well beyond me!! I would understand If you lived in a very hot country but this is Britain. Just my opinion.
Because it's up to 30c at some point every summer, and most of the time when you're working in the 20's the van is hot inside.
Air-con cools you off and you feel refreshed for the next job, not hot tired and sweaty.
Since I've had air-con I can work longer and harder in the summer.
It's a no-brainer. ::)
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once upon a time there was a young window cleaner called squeeky who was never ever ever going to go wfp as ladders and hand tools were all he ever needed.... now look whats happened...... he's getting a new van and its got air con...... most amusing!!!
sorry off topic, i am looking at the sl29 as then you get 1200kg payload which means full tank of fuel, 8oo litres of water, two men plus ladders if you want them and you are still legal.
and it will seem like loads of space compared to my berlingo!!
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I would have thought the same as you squeeky, its just the french version of a transit so it shouldnt be that small in the back, somewhere around the 2.3 metre mark I would have thought
I believe that load lengths are 2.4 mtrs for SWB and 2.8 for LWB. Not a huge difference between the two really.
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once upon a time there was a young window cleaner called squeeky who was never ever ever going to go wfp as ladders and hand tools were all he ever needed.... now look whats happened...... he's getting a new van and its got air con...... most amusing!!!
sorry off topic, i am looking at the sl29 as then you get 1200kg payload which means full tank of fuel, 8oo litres of water, two men plus ladders if you want them and you are still legal.
and it will seem like loads of space compared to my berlingo!!
Things might be a bit tighter weightwise than you think. When I had mine MOT's last year, they wanted it as light as possible for the 3 tonne ramp. So I ran the water to empty, ran the fuel down low and the only bits left in there were tank (obviously), and the leisure battery and pump. Like this, it came to 1.9 tonnes without me in it (I checked at the weighbridge). So adding the 800 litres of water would take it to 2.7 tonnes. 2 guys in there would probably be anything from 150 to 220 kilos. It only needs two burly guys in there with 800 litres of water for there to be no more payload left for poles and diesel. I suppose my tank isn't the lightest (an Omnipole 800 litre) but even with a lighter tank, you could be pushing it a bit.
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got to agree with squeeky with the air con if your buying new its a must have and good for the resale later its like sitting in a fridge in the summer months
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http://www.lowcostvans.co.uk/Products/Fiat-Ducato-30-SWB-Diesel-23-Multijet-Van-120__11267.aspx
I thought these looked ok with the extra load space and extra payload compared to the trafic especially for the money.
does anyone have/had a fiat?? are they any good?
greg
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we have a lwb Traffic and its just big enough but the swb transit will be the same size as the lwb Traffic
I think we will go for the Transit next time with the bigger engine
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This is the van I had on demo and I tried the tank for size. The only problem is that I couldn't mount the hose reel at the side door beside the tank. I would have to work the reels out the back door instead and i dont really like working that way.
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I have the Nissan Primastar swb version of this van, and totally love it, and I totally agree with Squeaky, no way on this planet would I have a vehicle without aircon...what a difference it makes in the summer 8)
I've a 650l flat tank in it, have a 3 tier ladder in there, 100m hosereel and 35ft of carbon fibre pole plus other incidental stuff, loads of room.
If I wish to work out of the side door then I can do so, hosereel is fixed at the back as I prefer to work out of the back doors.
Whatever van you go for, be flexible, work out how best to work with the equipment you have, each van will require a different approach - unless you go for the same van as you've had before of course - so keep an open mind!!
Oh, and anothe rreason I went for the Nissan version of the van was the insurance costs...it's cheaper than the vivaro or traffic versions!
Ian
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Just have 1 fixed hosereel at the back dors and have the system setup so you can have a stand alone reel so you can point it where you want.