Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jaykie on February 20, 2008, 06:02:30 pm
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As im a newbie and only doing my own house and relatives etc, once ive cleaned the window then dry off with a scrim no matter how much i go over it i always end up with marks in corners where the water has dried as couldnt get it all off ( if makes sense) am i using the wrong type of scrim if so please recommend any you people use.
Cheers
Chris
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How are you detailing the edges and corners?
Just with one finger into the scrim or have you got it bunched up ?
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You need to keep the scrim as dry as possible.
Once you have wet then squeegied the window the only part left wet should be the edges around the window, wrap the scrim around you finger then wipe all the edges to mop up the left overs.
When the scrim becomes wet change to a dry part of it
If you do leave a "skid" on the window just wipe it with a dry part of the scrim and it will not smear.
Andy ;D
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Bunched up
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Cheers Andy
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Are these the right ones, i have ettore at mo
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBTOX:IT&item=370022121940&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI
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As has been said, bone dry. My missus used to tumble dry my scrims then take them out and fold them up. She thought they were dry, and they were, but they wern't bone dry. Always make sure the part of the scrim you use is as dry as dry can be, otherwise you'll be leaving moisture on the glass with crud in it.
And one finger in the scrim, otherwise if its bunched it bridges across from the frame to the glass leaving a void that doesnt get scrimmed, thus doesnt get cleaned.
Matt
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When new they are not always as absorbant and can spread the water about when detailing, i have been using unger microfibres for a long time and find them excellent.
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So how many scrims should i have, i no this can be different as depends on the amount of custys i have just dont want to run out or be washing them and drying in rush.
Chris
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As many as possible mate especially when you just start out cos you will do more detailing, in the summer they dry out really quick but this time of year you might go through a few!
Matt
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Im using these at mo
http://www.windowcleancentre.co.uk/productdetails.aspx?ProductID=144&SectionID=20
And
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Microfibre-Cloths-Blue-Yellow-Red-Green-1-Of-Each_W0QQitemZ120221221036QQihZ002QQcategoryZ112579QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
But am i better off with these lol, Sorry
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBTOX:IT&item=370022121940&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI
Chris
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so would that be 10 , 30 100, just a rough estimate. Cheers thanks for the help much appreciated.
Chris
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10
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i would certainly have maybe 20, but remember you can cut the bigger scrims in half, aslong as those the microfibres shown are really absorbant you will be fine.!
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I wouldn`t cut them,just make sure you give them plenty of washes and it won`t take long before those big scrims are thinner and feel smaller.
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you only need one scrim, but you need to treat it with respect and look after it. 20-30. DOH!!!!
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you only need one scrim, but you need to treat it with respect and look after it. 20-30. DOH!!!!
In all fairness when you just start out you tend to use a few more, at least you won't run out!
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you only need one scrim, but you need to treat it with respect and look after it. 20-30. DOH!!!!
You only need 1 scrim,yeah right. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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I find the more you have the better cos at the end of the week you can just bang them all in the washing machine ! Saves on electricity ;D
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I find the more you have the better cos at the end of the week you can just bang them all in the washing machine ! Saves on electricity ;D
Well said jonah, i wish i could use one ,my Mrs would love me, instead of nagging about me putting my filthy cloths in the new washer.
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I find the more you have the better cos at the end of the week you can just bang them all in the washing machine ! Saves on electricity ;D
Well said jonah, i wish i could use one ,my Mrs would love me, instead of nagging about me putting my filthy cloths in the new washer.
Just remind her that those dirtry cloths are the reason she has such a luxurious lifestyle lol .
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Those scrims paid for the washer
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Those scrims paid for the washer
Good point lads, women don't see it that way!
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Bone dry scrim what is the world coming too ? scrims have to be slightly damp to work properly (not wet though) especially on sunny days .
I personally never use more than 1 or 2 in a Day
Scrims do vary though, ive bought some that have been complete rubbish.
The last pack i got from soapnational were ok
Best way to break a scim in is to simple leave it hanging on the washing line for a week to weather.
G
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Bone dry scrim what is the world coming too ? scrims have to be slightly damp to work properly (not wet though) especially on sunny days .
I personally never use more than 1 or 2 in a Day
Scrims do vary though, ive bought some that have been complete rubbish.
The last pack i got from soapnational were ok
Best way to break a scim in is to simple leave it hanging on the washing line for a week to weather.
G
Never heard of using them slightly damp, if detailing after blading off ???
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i asume he mean when cleaning leaded. it helps if they are slighty damp when cleaning leaded
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Yes slightly damp for detailing after squeegee . it works for me . you might find a few others agree with me
each to their own though
G
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ricky
leaded = wfp
G
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When I was using scrim I found the same as Gordon. Ever so slightly damp worked better for me too. However since I discovered how good microfibres are I use them for everything, windows frames and ledges when I'm not Wfp-ing. So far I've found the Unger ones the best.
Mark
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When I was using scrim I found the same as Gordon. Ever so slightly damp worked better for me too. However since I discovered how good microfibres are I use them for everything, windows frames and ledges when I'm not Wfp-ing. So far I've found the Unger ones the best.
Mark
Ditto
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mate forget scrim all together, get unger microfibre from soapnational.co.uk get 2 x pack of five , wash them on 95 degree wash twice a week for the first 4 weeks then once a week after that. After every job swap cloths and put the now damp one on your dash board with the blower on to dry it out....it dries right out well quick. Best thing I ever did was to ditch scrim and go with MF. Use them inside dry....very fast!
just my opinion and I know I have just started the old scrim/MF can of worms off again!! sorry
each to their own
greg
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I always use to boil new scrim before using it. Tried Ungers large green microfibre's and prefered them to scrim when I was trad as they use to soak up 6 times the amount of water. Less cloths to put in the washing machine too at the end of the day.
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you only need one scrim, but you need to treat it with respect and look after it. 20-30. DOH!!!!
That's alright if it hasn't been raining and you drop your scrim on the floor by accident or your bucket tips over in the car,lol
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Get yourself about 10 microfibre cloths, most of the online suppliers sell them.
Make sure they are of the flat weave variety.
Scrim gets no where close by comparison.
Microfibre cloths can be used straight from the packet, they require no special cleaning or breaking in.
As for using scrim damp.
I've used this method, but if they are damp, the glass may look clean and smear free, but unless you are very skilled there ain't a snowballs chance in hell that they will be.
Bone dry scrim is a pain though, and by dry I mean TOTALLY dry, so I do understand what people are getting at. But don't spray them to get them damp, after 10 minutes of use they will be perfect.
But as a newbie, within 20 minutes you'll probably need a fresh one!!
Concentrate on getting your squeegee technique right, if you are needing to correct mistakes apart from detailing the edges then you haven't got it right just yet.
The only time you should need to use your scrim (or microfibre is you have and sense) is to detail the edges of the pane of glass, correcting mistakes in the middle of the glass can often leave marks that are visible from the inside.
Ian
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When you put them in the washing machine don't put any soap powder in. Wash them without. Soap powder leaves a dusty residue.
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Thank you for all your replys, just ordered another 10 microfibre so got 20 now.
Chris
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Thank you for all your replys, just ordered another 10 microfibre so got 20 now.
Chris
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Good lad better to have too many than not enough, hope you get on o.k!