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Title: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: mick hay on February 16, 2008, 10:51:54 am
Just received a letter from taxman  "we have not received your payment.....legal proceedings blah blah blah"

Bank just confirmed they received it 22nd jan!!! nearly a month ago!

I now have to spend time on monday morning correcting their mistakes, when i should be working!  >:(

Wish they were so "on the ball" with the unemployed and benefit thieves  >:(
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: macmac on February 16, 2008, 11:02:18 am
Be good & work hard = get nothing

Be lazy, foul mouthed, loutish, of no benefit to society etc. = get everything you require including heaps of victim-like sympathy! ::)

Tony
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: johnny_h on February 16, 2008, 01:45:17 pm
dont call them send a recorded delivery letter explaining if they take it further you know you are covered
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Bonzer on February 16, 2008, 04:28:36 pm
I remember hearing recently that the Revenue don't sign for letters even if sent recorded. They just get bundled and delivered, so you may save your money (although tax-deductable  :D ) and send it normally!
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: philboy on February 16, 2008, 04:37:17 pm
Be good & work hard = get nothing

Be lazy, foul mouthed, loutish, of no benefit to society etc. = get everything you require including heaps of victim-like sympathy! ::)

Tony

Tony, I couldn't have said it better myself!

except to say... Be good & work hard, get taxed on everything!! = get nothing

Phil
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: macmac on February 16, 2008, 06:12:57 pm
Be good & work hard = get nothing

Be lazy, foul mouthed, loutish, of no benefit to society etc. = get everything you require including heaps of victim-like sympathy! ::)

Tony

Tony, I couldn't have said it better myself!

except to say... Be good & work hard, get taxed on everything!! = get nothing

Phil

Yeah, that too.
I know a family who are all on benefits, they have a house, satalite tv, & get a new car (or currently, a people carrier) every 3 years. guess what's up with the father? He's gossley over weight.
So, in a nut shell, they get everything for nothing 'cos he's a fat b***ard!

Makes you wonder sometimes who the fools realy are ::)

Tony
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Wayne Thomas on February 16, 2008, 11:23:13 pm
I've taken out insurance with my accountant so that if the taxman wants to play funny buggers at least it won't cost me ridiculous accountancy fees. Just gives me peace of mind for about £85 or £90 a year. A bit like having AA cover if your van breaks down.
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: mick hay on February 17, 2008, 08:26:18 am
Its terrible that you have to take out an insurance, tax has been collected for hundreds of years, so really they should have got it right by now!!!

I'm not worried about it at all, ive done exactly what they have told me, paid it at MY bank at MY branch with one of THEIR paying in slips.

Just annoying that the answers going to be  "can you prove you paid it!!!"   >:(

Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: clevs on February 17, 2008, 09:58:03 am
Hi guys,

I received my tax bill for 06/07, then they calulated 07/08 for me, which i have to pay half of 07/08 on the 31/01/2008, then the other half of 07/08 on the 31/07/2008.  Which was a bit of a shocker, my accountant says it's wrong, but !  the taxman says it's right, I have paid the amount they asked for.  Has anyone else had this, this year ??.  Lucky I had a bit of money put by, but could of been caught out bigtime.....
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: macmac on February 17, 2008, 10:36:10 am
Hi guys,

I received my tax bill for 06/07, then they calulated 07/08 for me, which i have to pay half of 07/08 on the 31/01/2008, then the other half of 07/08 on the 31/07/2008.  Which was a bit of a shocker, my accountant says it's wrong, but !  the taxman says it's right, I have paid the amount they asked for.  Has anyone else had this, this year ??.  Lucky I had a bit of money put by, but could of been caught out bigtime.....

I think what you reffer to is called payment on account, it is right although a rip off IMO.

Tony
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Paul Coleman on February 17, 2008, 11:00:57 am
Be good & work hard = get nothing

Be lazy, foul mouthed, loutish, of no benefit to society etc. = get everything you require including heaps of victim-like sympathy! ::)

Tony

Tony, I couldn't have said it better myself!

except to say... Be good & work hard, get taxed on everything!! = get nothing

Phil

Yeah, that too.
I know a family who are all on benefits, they have a house, satalite tv, & get a new car (or currently, a people carrier) every 3 years. guess what's up with the father? He's gossley over weight.
So, in a nut shell, they get everything for nothing 'cos he's a fat b***ard!

Makes you wonder sometimes who the fools realy are ::)

Tony

Of course there are too many freeloaders but to take this individual case might be very unfair if you don't know all the details.  To get the car, he must be on disability living allowance.  Also, this allowance is stopped or vastly reduced if the person opts for a car instead.  However, my main point is that there are underlying medical conditions that can cause someone to be severely overweight.  The two more obvious possibilities are that he has a malfunctioning thyroid gland - a very unpleasant problem to have which can be made worse by the medicine for a long time until the correct individual dosage is arrived at.  Another possibility is the need for steroids which can be used for many things.  A very common side effect of steroids is severe weight gain.  I realise that some people do milk the system but it's not always easy to determine who they are unless you know details about them that you've no right to know.  A malfunctioning thyroid and the associated medicine can be enough to trigger DLA.  If diabetes is a factor too (as sometimes happens in such situations) it really is extremely difficult (if not impossible) to hold down a regular job.  I have known a person who was paralysed down one side to actually be refused DLA.  It's not as easy to get as some of the media would have you believe.  However, it's a much more readable story slating someone who is caught out abusing the system than the story about the very sick guy who the doctors wouldn't listen to.
A very good friend of mine was finally accepted for DLA some time back.  Pity they waited till he had been dead two weeks before agreeing to pay it (apparently he wasn't ill enough for DLA).
I do agree with you that there are too many freeloaders but I wanted to put a bit of balance to this as there are some very sick people who aren't getting what they need because the system blocks them.  It's hard enough fighting the system if you are fit and well.  Doing it when you are ill is seriously difficult.
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Paul Coleman on February 17, 2008, 11:09:24 am
I've taken out insurance with my accountant so that if the taxman wants to play funny buggers at least it won't cost me ridiculous accountancy fees. Just gives me peace of mind for about £85 or £90 a year. A bit like having AA cover if your van breaks down.

Wayne.  I think you might be better off joining the FSB (Federation of Small Businesses).  The fee is currently £100 per year (the first year is a bit more expensive at about £120).  You can get loads of business news and good advice if you need it.  The good bit is that you get investigation insurance in with the fee.
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Paul Coleman on February 17, 2008, 11:11:43 am
I've taken out insurance with my accountant so that if the taxman wants to play funny buggers at least it won't cost me ridiculous accountancy fees. Just gives me peace of mind for about £85 or £90 a year. A bit like having AA cover if your van breaks down.

Wayne.  I think you might be better off joining the FSB (Federation of Small Businesses).  The fee is currently £100 per year (the first year is a bit more expensive at about £120).  You can get loads of business news and good advice if you need it.  The good bit is that you get investigation insurance in with the fee.
Just to add a bit to my own post too.  If someone does pay an accountant extra because they are investigated, the accountancy for the investigation is not even tax deductible.  This still applies if the business is totally clean.
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Wayne Thomas on February 17, 2008, 12:20:56 pm
Shiner, my accountancy insurance covers me for investigation insurance as well included in the price. If I didn't have this insurance and the taxman wanted to investigate me, the accountancy fees could run into thousands as a worst case scenario, which would seriously put a big dent in my cashflow causing problems. As I suffer from a chronic illness and my work patterns are erratic I've taken out this insurance for peace of mind because a couple of years ago I had to pay out an extra £450 in accountancy fees for discrepancies involving the taxman. If I worry about things (i.e. work, then my joints flare up (chronic arthritus), causing me to take more time off work because of my illness, so I try to minimise any stress in my life to keep my quality of life decent, so paying an accountancy insurance gives me peace of mind.
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Village Gleam on February 17, 2008, 01:13:22 pm
Go online Mick, into your account and check any monies outstanding.

If there are, and there shouldn't be leave a message.

Didn't know you worried Wayne, do you know about diet, no orange juice but plenty of apple juice?(alkali good, acid bad).
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Wayne Thomas on February 17, 2008, 01:28:10 pm
Hello Mr Solubility, thank-you for your concern.
I am fully aware of food nutrition, anti-oxidants, acidic foods, diets and just about everything else that affects flare ups relating to arthritus.
When I developed the illness, I made it my mission in life to learn what causes it, who can get it, why they get it, living with the illness, preventitive measures to reduce pain, learning to block out pain, relaxation, etc, basically anything & everything that relates to the illness.
There's lots of information out there, I'm still finding new literature all the time, it all helps improve my quality of life.
Everybody worries about something in their life, no matter how small.  I just try to minimise and prevent any unneccessary foreseable problems before they happen.
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Village Gleam on February 17, 2008, 01:47:28 pm
You think things through well.

A tax enquiry can be a concern. I've seen people become very bitter during and after.You just have to deal with it (and then pay the bill).

I'm about to go away, I like to have a think too, and then act. This time last year when I came back I bought and signed a van on the strenght of thirty custies. That thing I showed you was my last hol effort. I've got Dyson's book and I'm going to see if that can help me with expansion. I want another van, but I don't want to buy myself problems. I read yours and others employing strategies with interest, and think that this is my weakest area.
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Wayne Thomas on February 17, 2008, 02:04:13 pm
Hello again Mr Solubility,

There's three ways to gain information........knowledge, wisdom & experience.
You obviously prefer knowledge (through books) to wisdom.
Newbies prefer wisdom (learning fom others who are established and successful)
All of us learn by experience but this includes making mistakes which result in a quick learning curve.
I myself, always keep all my options open as all three are very useful.

Good luck with your marketing & sales strategies and positive thinking ideas. Always enjoy reading your different views to everyone else.
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: xxmattyxx on February 17, 2008, 02:23:45 pm
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Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Village Gleam on February 17, 2008, 02:56:07 pm
 ??? ???I have got another ongoing business of 18yrs. And while I can't claim more tax inquiries than you 've had hot dinners, i have had two.
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Paul Coleman on February 17, 2008, 02:59:00 pm
Shiner, my accountancy insurance covers me for investigation insurance as well included in the price. If I didn't have this insurance and the taxman wanted to investigate me, the accountancy fees could run into thousands as a worst case scenario, which would seriously put a big dent in my cashflow causing problems. As I suffer from a chronic illness and my work patterns are erratic I've taken out this insurance for peace of mind because a couple of years ago I had to pay out an extra £450 in accountancy fees for discrepancies involving the taxman. If I worry about things (i.e. work, then my joints flare up (chronic arthritus), causing me to take more time off work because of my illness, so I try to minimise any stress in my life to keep my quality of life decent, so paying an accountancy insurance gives me peace of mind.

What I meant was that by joining the FSB you could have that insurance plus a load of other goodies for not much more than you're paying now.  Of course, maybe the accountancy insurance that you've taken out gives a lot more than insurance against accountancy fees in an investigation.
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: Village Gleam on February 17, 2008, 03:18:43 pm
It's a bit like insuring the window your working on.....
If tax wise it's your fault you may not be covered shiner. Also accountants get a lot wrong.
Title: Re: Taxman just can't get it right!!!
Post by: mick hay on February 17, 2008, 03:54:57 pm
My accountant checked my account, they say they received payment....but get this.....earlier than i paid it......

Beggars belief, it really does!