Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: shammy davis jnr on February 15, 2008, 12:59:03 pm
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apart from realy huge fire works how on earth do u motivate the young these days
becase the money dont neither does over time i think they get it to easy :o
is it just me our is it just not worth employing the young these days i would have worked till the cows came home at sixteen you interview them and somtimes you need to look hard to see if they are serious with the answers they come away with
i said to one i interviewed few mounths back
ok so you dont have exsperience so how much do u think your worth to the company he said as long as i get a bout £300 a week i should be ok i said your only sixteen
i was a apprentice welder and did not get any where near this till i was time served
would you work overtime if required not unless its treble time
dont call me ill call you
its a problem today they get it far to easy the bubble must burst some where
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you are so right its the way they are brought up not appreciating anything or money, it just gets thrown at them or they have a tantrum!
my 2 work at home with housework for their pocket money and appreciate the value of money
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i said to one i interviewed few mounths back
ok so you dont have exsperience so how much do u think your worth to the company he said as long as i get a bout £300 a week i should be ok i said your only sixteen
would you work overtime if required not unless its treble time
Sounds like he had his head screwed on to me!! Less than £300 for a weeks window cleaning, thats slave labour if you ask me!!!
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i said to one i interviewed few mounths back
ok so you dont have exsperience so how much do u think your worth to the company he said as long as i get a bout £300 a week i should be ok i said your only sixteen
would you work overtime if required not unless its treble time
Sounds like he had his head screwed on to me!! Less than £300 for a weeks window cleaning, thats slave labour if you ask me!!!
Definitely. Whats wrong with wanting to earn £300 a week when youre 16? Their time is still as valuable as anyone elses.
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i said to one i interviewed few mounths back
ok so you dont have exsperience so how much do u think your worth to the company he said as long as i get a bout £300 a week i should be ok i said your only sixteen
would you work overtime if required not unless its treble time
Sounds like he had his head screwed on to me!! Less than £300 for a weeks window cleaning, thats slave labour if you ask me!!!
Definitely. Whats wrong with wanting to earn £300 a week when youre 16? Their time is still as valuable as anyone elses.
Some guys take that home anyway... and they have bills to pay and kids to keep, i know who i would rather give to.
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if they were that serious they would set there own business up and earn more than double what your paying them,
thats what i did, i worked with some dickhead window cleaner for not much more than min wage, didnt take long before i realised i could do what he does but better so i set up on my own and have never looked back, £300 a week is nothing when you can earn 600, 700+ a week doing the same job
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i once offered a job to a 17 yr old , who then replied i wont be up in time to start at 8.30 , and anyway my mum probably wont give me a lift or bus fare !!!!! .
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is that £300 clear if so that aint bad
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One word:
WOMEN
(Hire them I mean, not pay your workers in women! Actually there's a thought))
I know a few lady window cleaners, and to be perfectly honest they work Darn hard and really appreciate flexible working (esp if kids etc). Just as capable as blokes and a helluva lot more respectful to customers
The others are right though, £300 is not enough.
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strongly disagree paying 300 to a 16 yr old, they need to learn the job and respect that you need to earn more as you get older, i started on crap money and it got better when i did when working for someone, nowadays they dont no how easy they have got it and need to learn money doesnt grow on trees i say bring back national service till they are 18 then we would have some respect without worrying who they will happy slap next!
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Your wasting your time employing anyone of 16 years of age,i wouldn`t employ anyone under 22-23 and even then i would prefer someone who had bills to pay ie morgage,that way there more likely to turn up.
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16 year olds should be paid less IMO.
They are too young to drive. Need to gain some experience.
Maybe start them low and put wages up as they get better?
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No where near £300 a week,your be lucky if there coming in 3 days a week after 3 months.
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my point exactly i pay my 16 yr old employee minimum wage till i think he is worth more
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£300 a week at 16. What planet is he on. at min wage for age 22 he would need to work around 54hrs per week for that. 54 is over the limit even for a 16 year old
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I wouldn't pay a 16 yr old £300 a week.
At 16 they will not be motivated and think they are on holiday all the time.
I know been there and done it.
I would pay minimum wage and if they are any good put the wages up a bit.
I only got £25 a week at 16
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strongly disagree paying 300 to a 16 yr old, they need to learn the job and respect that you need to earn more as you get older, i started on crap money and it got better when i did when working for someone, nowadays they dont no how easy they have got it and need to learn money doesnt grow on trees i say bring back national service till they are 18 then we would have some respect without worrying who they will happy slap next!
Totally agree! When I was 16 I was earning £35 per week for a 45 hour week, my money went up when my skill went up. I got to work on time and snapped up any overtime that was going. National service is a great idea, kids these days have no respect, no desire (other than to get drunk or pregnant) and no concept of hard work!
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Sounds like he had his head screwed on to me!! Less than £300 for a weeks window cleaning, thats slave labour if you ask me!!!
Couldnt agree more groundhog, infact this is the first time we have agreed mate! Luke
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Whats the great emphasis on National Service? So you deal with problem kids by teaching them how to kill? Sounds totally irresponsible to me. Sending them off to Iraq or Afghanistan so they can see misery and suffering and terrible, terrible atrocities.... the strong ones might do fine, but what about the ones who cant handle it? They come back, traumatised and maladjusted and take out their insecurities and anger on society.... turn to booze and drugs to cope, and end up back in prison again?
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£ 300 a week for a sixteen year old, oh please. I am not an empolyer but I think you also have to pay NI for each employee so it is going to cost more than 300 from the off. Then you have to factor in holiday pay, at least 4 weeks sounds ok, if you think 300 a week is a good wage to start on, so thats £1200 a year. Then there is pay rises, a big one when they can actually clean a window and you dont have to spend all of your time cleaning up after them, another one when they reach 18 and another when they reach 21 by which stage he would be on 500 or 600 a week. I imagine the lad turned up for the interview with no intention off getting the job and priced himself out of the market, for most employers anyway. I would pay a little above minimum wage to start and offer a few incentives for attendance, performance etc with increases as and when their window cleaning improves. The better they are the more they earn. If you start them at £300 and they turn out to be useless you will have given yourself very little room for manouvre.
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Not being funny but close to where I live in Torquay, they are screaming out for carers at £300 a week. Nobody wants to fill the vacancies, not even the youngsters. A lot of the dole people have it too easy claiming housing benefit and everything that goes with it. They only turn up for job vacancies because if they didn't prove they were trying,lol, they'd have their benefits reduced. Sad society we live in making it too easy for the layabouts.