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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: *john garnett on February 13, 2008, 09:04:56 pm

Title: Spots
Post by: *john garnett on February 13, 2008, 09:04:56 pm
GETTING A LOT OF SPOTS ON THE GLASS - IS THIS
TDS OF 6 CAUSING THIS PLEASE?
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: geefree on February 13, 2008, 09:10:04 pm
is anyone thinking what im thinking.  ??? ::)
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: windowwashers on February 13, 2008, 09:39:50 pm
GETTING A LOT OF SPOTS ON THE GLASS - IS THIS
TDS OF 6 CAUSING THIS PLEASE?
try going for 000 and see what happnes, if it is not that then it is the way you are cleaning them.
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: s.hughes on February 13, 2008, 09:41:44 pm
I grew out of spots when I was a teenager.

Title: Re: Spots
Post by: East coast window cleaning Services on February 13, 2008, 09:45:53 pm
I would say its method and not tds you could use upto 10-12 on most windows.
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: s.hughes on February 13, 2008, 09:47:54 pm
Putting all joking aside I wouldnt go above 001 but then I dont use a lot and I have got loads of resin. The minute it hits 001 I change it.

Steve
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: geefree on February 13, 2008, 09:51:36 pm
Putting all joking aside I wouldnt go above 001 but then I dont use a lot and I have got loads of resin. The minute it hits 001 I change it.

Steve

i am like that a bit... i dont need resin tho,
i stand outside testing the water before it hits the tank.. waiting for 000... if its 001 , i know it will more than do the job, but i must have 000.

Title: Re: Spots
Post by: Wayne Thomas on February 13, 2008, 10:05:06 pm
It's not hard to maintain a TDS of 0.0 so why take the chance of using impure water with a TDS reading above 0.0
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: Conflagration2000 on February 14, 2008, 12:12:03 pm
In my vast experience of wfp (38 days),  if you use a tds of 000 then you can be very confident that any spots will be down to the yourself.  :)
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: matt on February 14, 2008, 12:51:13 pm
try the water on your own glass, pour some on a clean pain for glass, even at 010 it drys clear
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: Rob_Mac on February 14, 2008, 02:43:24 pm
I have never understood why you all throw your resin away if it goes above 000. We don't use resin and have never needed to and our readings are at 000.

They have been this way now since we moved into our trading address but I would not be concerned till it had risen to about 010 and then I would change it.

Are you not wasting perfectly good resin that will give you litres of extra water that will not leave marks on the glass.
because we don't buy resin I could not tell you how much you go through in a month but it is about £80.00 a bag and if you are using a lot and not using it to its full potential then that is waste.

I would use it till it showed poor results or crept up to about 010 and then I would change it.

People will go to any measure on here to save money but they will throw away perfectly good resin ( This is not a pop at anyone) - I don't understand.

Rob ;D
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: Conflagration2000 on February 14, 2008, 02:46:31 pm
I think most of us on here use the two di cylinder method where you extract every last ounce of effectiveness from the resin.
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: matt on February 14, 2008, 03:03:37 pm
I have never understood why you all throw your resin away if it goes above 000. We don't use resin and have never needed to and our readings are at 000.

They have been this way now since we moved into our trading address but I would not be concerned till it had risen to about 010 and then I would change it.

Are you not wasting perfectly good resin that will give you litres of extra water that will not leave marks on the glass.
because we don't buy resin I could not tell you how much you go through in a month but it is about £80.00 a bag and if you are using a lot and not using it to its full potential then that is waste.

I would use it till it showed poor results or crept up to about 010 and then I would change it.

People will go to any measure on here to save money but they will throw away perfectly good resin ( This is not a pop at anyone) - I don't understand.

Rob ;D

i never have either

it takes me months for it to rise from 00 to 007, i know im a low water user, but its still got to be a fair while for higher water users
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: cat9921 on February 14, 2008, 04:17:44 pm
GETTING A LOT OF SPOTS ON THE GLASS - IS THIS
TDS OF 6 CAUSING THIS PLEASE?

I don't Think its your TDS, Or your Method..

My TDS was about 007 and was still good,,
I cannot see it being your method either.. I find it hard to believe that you could clean a window and leave a perfect spot line down the middle of the glass...

Sounds like you are doing a good job but the water is being contaminated.... Can you tell us what sort of window it is IE does it have panes about it, and where does the spotting start from is it the top of the frame and so on  ;)   
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: *john garnett on February 14, 2008, 04:26:59 pm
Two big sheets of glass, each one moves. Brown metal frames not plastic {UPVC}, dots are 7 inches long [downwards). Grey in colour all the same size just about.
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: MSTAV on February 14, 2008, 04:29:31 pm
i got some advice from a polecleaner which has now helped me. i use a trolley system/van mount and have two guys that do backs on ladders. when sometimes i do the backs if they are not in i found \I was getting loads of white spots and got so anoyed as it kept happening, anyway i asked another pole cleaner in area and he asked what the trad guys were cleaning with which was fairy liquid..he said noooooooooooooooooo stop using that sh*t and use spot on or anyother windowcleaning detergent.  now i never get spots, touch wood.. maybe before you was using fairy???..
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: *john garnett on February 14, 2008, 04:41:02 pm
Not, not using Fairy. Using pure water only.
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 14, 2008, 05:04:14 pm
Brown metal frames - powder coated modern or old and a bit manky?

Rubber seal? Rub a cloth along it - if it comes up really black then they are perishing and it will also cause runs.

Old powder coated frames need special care as they "pollute" any drips with colour.

The only way to be sure is to blade the water off downstairs or wait until there is not even one drip-line by washing away with the jet only on low power just under the top seal.

Time consuming so cost it in.
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: *john garnett on February 14, 2008, 05:49:06 pm
Interesting that. The metal does look a bit early 70s. Rubbers is rubbish - it DOES make a mess of my cloths.
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 14, 2008, 06:09:21 pm
Interesting that. The metal does look a bit early 70s. Rubbers is rubbish - it DOES make a mess of my cloths.

My fee is a bottle of Newcastle Brown.  ;D
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: *john garnett on February 14, 2008, 06:19:56 pm
Cheap at the price!
Title: Re: Spots
Post by: cat9921 on February 14, 2008, 06:39:42 pm
I agree with Malc(G)old

Contamination from frames  ::)

two things can happen with the water...

If the water goes over the frame it can pick up dirt or paint....

To see if its picking up paint from the frame, Lick your finger and rub it on the top of the frame,If its white then get a cloth soak it in pure water and keep rubbing the top of the frame until it stops bleeding with paint.. Again do the finger test to see if it has stopped..

If its not that then your water is getting under the seal when you are brushing the top of the window... If so Try this First rinse the whole window first.. Then turn water off then brush as normal .. Then turn water on for the final rinse...

I found that because I was brushing the window and the flow was on, it would spray up into the seal..

Hope that helps... Let us know how you get on  ;)