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Title: gutter vac
Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on February 08, 2008, 05:51:54 pm
Yesterday i had to do a big gutter clean
 (aswell as clean all windows inside/outside)
on a big industrial unit, i used my omnipole vac machine, it took about 3 hours to complete but got me thinking that there was no way this could of been done by ladders as some of the units were restricted to put a ladder up.
I won’t tell you how much i got for the job (i don’t go down that route) but suffice to say it was well paid and in the short time i’ve had the gutter vac it’s been used on average 3 times a week and is slowly but surely paying for itself and of course not forgetting the safety aspect.

It’s been a good investment for my business.
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: poleman on February 08, 2008, 06:01:29 pm
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big industrial unit

Your lucky Southampton is full of them, I should know a visited everyone there, 2 summers age and built a database

Andy
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: Spursboy1972 on February 08, 2008, 06:02:53 pm
Jay

Did you buy it outright or lease purchase?
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on February 08, 2008, 06:37:50 pm
Jay

Did you buy it outright or lease purchase?
hi tony
paid cash, but i believe the do hp terms
p.s hows totton coming on?
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: jonah on February 08, 2008, 09:07:31 pm
Do they hire the machine ?
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: stevekennedy on February 08, 2008, 09:20:21 pm
Does it work on jobs where the gutter is recessed into the roof. We just did a job off cherry picker like this. I just climbed into the gutter and used a full size shovel to scoop out al the stuff. In one part it was like a lawn up there. I was cutting it into squares like lifting turf. Would it really cope with this type of thing? Also, there were the wooden sticks from fireworks up there. Amazing what you find.

We had the cherry picker there anyway because we were cleaning the roof. Wouldn't want to pay for the hire just to do the gutters. Rather use a machine.
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: jeff1 on February 08, 2008, 09:25:57 pm
I used to get a similar problem on Domestic gutter cleans, you could almost break your neck trying to clean all the guttering above conservatories, I invested in the gutter lance and never looked back.

And its paid for its self already Jay ;D ;D
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: stevekennedy on February 08, 2008, 09:33:38 pm
would the lance work on commercial gutters?

These were about 18 inches accross and about 3 feet into the roof
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: jeff1 on February 08, 2008, 09:36:05 pm
I think you would have a job and half doing that type of work with the Lance, I've never tried it so its only a guess.
I don't think it would take a lot to modify the lance if you have this type of work to do.
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: Village Gleam on February 08, 2008, 09:36:18 pm
Jeff will this work off an ordinary pressure washer?
My neighbour wants to sell me one(a lance), how much should I offer? (don't think it has the gutter tool)
sorry to fire another question.
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: stevekennedy on February 08, 2008, 09:38:05 pm
Hi Jeff. Do you detach the downpipe or something to get the crud down?
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: jeff1 on February 08, 2008, 09:49:39 pm
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Hey guy's were pinching Jays posts here Sorry JAY :'(
But I'll answer the questions for you guy's

Jeff will this work off an ordinary pressure washer?
My neighbour wants to sell me one(a lance), how much should I offer? (don't think it has the gutter tool)
Sorry to fire another question.
The lance is made to operate off ordinary pressure washers, but if its the Diy type, I don't hold out much hope for it lasting long.
What is the length of the Lance, the one I use is the 7.3m one http://www.northerntooluk.com/products.asp?partno=22824E if you check out this link it will give you the price of the lance and on the right scroll down until you see the pack of 5 Jets and down the bottom is the gutter attachment, price them up and then make the guy an offer.

Hi Jeff. Do you detach the down pipe or something to get the crud down?
No way Steve,
I blast the crud to the end and then stick the lance down the pipe from the top, only ever had one problem when it looked like they were growing a garden in the gutters Lol, I blasted as much as I could down the pipe, I then shoved a metal mouse I have with a spiral on the end up from the bottom and just used it as a drain rod, took minutes.
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on February 08, 2008, 10:02:48 pm
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Hey guy's were pinching Jays posts here Sorry JAY :'(
But I'll answer the questions for you guy's

Jeff will this work off an ordinary pressure washer?
My neighbour wants to sell me one(a lance), how much should I offer? (don't think it has the gutter tool)
Sorry to fire another question.
The lance is made to operate off ordinary pressure washers, but if its the Diy type, I don't hold out much hope for it lasting long.
What is the length of the Lance, the one I use is the 7.3m one http://www.northerntooluk.com/products.asp?partno=22824E if you check out this link it will give you the price of the lance and on the right scroll down until you see the pack of 5 Jets and down the bottom is the gutter attachment, price them up and then make the guy an offer.

Hi Jeff. Do you detach the down pipe or something to get the crud down?
No way Steve,
I blast the crud to the end and then stick the lance down the pipe from the top, only ever had one problem when it looked like they were growing a garden in the gutters Lol, I blasted as much as I could down the pipe, I then shoved a metal mouse I have with a spiral on the end up from the bottom and just used it as a drain rod, took minutes.
hi jeff
i have followed the link for the lance, don't know much about this product can you tell me
1, how good is it?
2, does it attach directly onto a standard electric jet washer?
3, could you also attach it to an outside hose?
4, can it be angled to jet wash inside gutters?

thanx
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: jeff1 on February 08, 2008, 10:27:39 pm
Modify
Hey guy's were pinching Jays posts here Sorry JAY :'(
But I'll answer the questions for you guy's

Jeff will this work off an ordinary pressure washer?
My neighbour wants to sell me one(a lance), how much should I offer? (don't think it has the gutter tool)
Sorry to fire another question.
The lance is made to operate off ordinary pressure washers, but if its the Diy type, I don't hold out much hope for it lasting long.
What is the length of the Lance, the one I use is the 7.3m one http://www.northerntooluk.com/products.asp?partno=22824E if you check out this link it will give you the price of the lance and on the right scroll down until you see the pack of 5 Jets and down the bottom is the gutter attachment, price them up and then make the guy an offer.

Hi Jeff. Do you detach the down pipe or something to get the crud down?
No way Steve,
I blast the crud to the end and then stick the lance down the pipe from the top, only ever had one problem when it looked like they were growing a garden in the gutters Lol, I blasted as much as I could down the pipe, I then shoved a metal mouse I have with a spiral on the end up from the bottom and just used it as a drain rod, took minutes.
hi jeff
i have followed the link for the lance, don't know much about this product can you tell me
1, how good is it?
2, does it attach directly onto a standard electric jet washer?
3, could you also attach it to an outside hose?
4, can it be angled to jet wash inside gutters?

thanx

I wouldn't go down the electric washer route Jay, mind you saying that, if you have the Vac then you must have a source for power? You have to watch the thread size were the lance attaches to the washer, Northern tool do the attachment if its the wrong size.

When I do a standard 3 bed semi, it used to take anything upto a couple of hours with the little extras like garage and lean too's, I cut this time down by half and on some Jobs less than half. And it does a good Job as you would expect from a pressure washer.

Never tried attaching it to an out side hose, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't take a brain surgeon to adapt it to the taps with a couple of extra fittings, I'll have a look tomorrow and get back to you on this one.

The angle one is an easy question, on that link above and in the section on the right, if you scroll right down to the bottom you will see the gutter attachment, £9.39 now this is  U  shaped for the job, you fit this to the lance and add one of the 5 Jets, it gets right into the guttering even if the tiles are over hanging into the gutters, you only need a small gap and your in.

When you have done the inside of the gutters remove the  U  shaped bit and attach one of the 5 Jets to the lance then you can clean the outside of the guttering, facias and soffits.

I'm a whimp so I bought the harness as well because I had 6 houses in one day to do, but even with this my arms were dropping off at the end of the day.

When you use the Lance, before you pull the trigger you have to have it about 10'' above the guttering and then lower it down to the gutters, this is because of the kick in the pressure washer, and before you release the trigger you have to raise it the 10'' again just to avoid it smashing into the guttering, after a couple of goes you remember to do it Lol.
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on February 08, 2008, 10:39:55 pm
hi jeff, thanx for that but i don't understand your comment about i got the vac so hence the source for power?

maybe i missunderstand?
i was thinking more on the lines of sucking out the c**p 1st using vac then washing out the gutters after using my electric jet wash with the long lance, is that possible?
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: jeff1 on February 08, 2008, 10:55:43 pm
hi jeff, thanx for that but i don't understand your comment about i got the vac so hence the source for power?

maybe i missunderstand?
i was thinking more on the lines of sucking out the c**p 1st using vac then washing out the gutters after using my electric jet wash with the long lance, is that possible?

What I was saying Jay, was if you were going to use an electric pressure washer you would need a power source, this is why I went for the petrol type (apart from the better pressure) so I could do it when custy wasn't home.
But as you already have the Vac thats electric I think isn't it? So I presumed you had a Genny or pluged into your custy's sockets.

My mate does it the way your saying Jay, he uses his vac to get all the crud out first and then uses the lance to wash it all out, I must admit it saves blowing all the crud all over the place, but once you get the hang of it you can normaly guid the crud to the down pipe.
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on February 08, 2008, 11:52:10 pm
hi jeff, thanx for that but i don't understand your comment about i got the vac so hence the source for power?

maybe i missunderstand?
i was thinking more on the lines of sucking out the c**p 1st using vac then washing out the gutters after using my electric jet wash with the long lance, is that possible?

What I was saying Jay, was if you were going to use an electric pressure washer you would need a power source, this is why I went for the petrol type (apart from the better pressure) so I could do it when custy wasn't home.
But as you already have the Vac thats electric I think isn't it? So I presumed you had a Genny or pluged into your custy's sockets.

My mate does it the way your saying Jay, he uses his vac to get all the crud out first and then uses the lance to wash it all out, I must admit it saves blowing all the crud all over the place, but once you get the hang of it you can normaly guid the crud to the down pipe.
now i understand where your coming from jeff
yes i do plug into customers 240volt power
when you buy the pole from them does it come with all the gutter cleaning bits ready to go?
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: jeff1 on February 09, 2008, 11:57:18 am
hi jeff, thanx for that but i don't understand your comment about i got the vac so hence the source for power?

maybe i missunderstand?
i was thinking more on the lines of sucking out the c**p 1st using vac then washing out the gutters after using my electric jet wash with the long lance, is that possible?

What I was saying Jay, was if you were going to use an electric pressure washer you would need a power source, this is why I went for the petrol type (apart from the better pressure) so I could do it when custy wasn't home.
But as you already have the Vac thats electric I think isn't it? So I presumed you had a Genny or pluged into your custy's sockets.

My mate does it the way your saying Jay, he uses his vac to get all the crud out first and then uses the lance to wash it all out, I must admit it saves blowing all the crud all over the place, but once you get the hang of it you can normaly guid the crud to the down pipe.
now i understand where your coming from jeff
yes i do plug into customers 240volt power
when you buy the pole from them does it come with all the gutter cleaning bits ready to go?
No they don't Jay, You have to buy the Jets @ £36.41 Includes the vat and the gutter attachment @ £9.39 Inc
You can buy the Jets singly @ around £6-7 each. but the pack of five have different angles and a larger bore one for low pressure cleaning.
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: jaykie on February 09, 2008, 01:59:40 pm
Do you not get a lot of mess from using the lance as i was going to get one of these from northern tool uk,
Title: Re: gutter vac
Post by: jeff1 on February 09, 2008, 05:41:06 pm
When you first start to use one you do, but after a bit of time & experience you can learn how to control any mess you make. Beats going up the ladders to do it ;)