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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Andrew44 on February 07, 2008, 07:28:06 pm

Title: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: Andrew44 on February 07, 2008, 07:28:06 pm

Looking for 120 lts a min.  Only got a 400lts to fill.  Any recommendations where is best place to buy this from? See many about but looking for cheapest deal.


Thanks

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: m.b.s. on February 07, 2008, 08:13:50 pm

try aldi the supermarket they had some in only cheep but dose the job about 16.00 i think

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: frames to panes on February 07, 2008, 08:58:18 pm

I got one from Lidel couple of months back - it was so cheap i bought it as a spare. I might use it in the summer to pump my waste water over the garden.

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: Andrew44 on February 07, 2008, 09:01:27 pm

DJW

What distance are you pumping and would ther be a massive drop over 20 mts??  That's my distance.

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: m.b.s. on February 07, 2008, 09:04:03 pm

Quote from: DJW on February 07, 2008, 08:58:18 pm

I got one from Lidel couple of months back - it was so cheap i bought it as a spare. I might use it in the summer to pump my waste water over the garden.

sorry i meant lidle my mistake i am pumping about 20 meters not sure what liters per hour is though that's the lidle one i fill 250 tank in about 1/2 hour

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: geefree on February 07, 2008, 09:26:57 pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SIP-SUB-PUMP-2000_W0QQitemZ290204069014QQihZ019QQcategoryZ46547QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: Jon-scwindows on February 07, 2008, 10:06:20 pm

Aldi also do a petrol water pump which looks good. £100 - all ready to go that pumps 650 litres per minute!

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: Pj on February 07, 2008, 11:09:34 pm

Lecture time:

You cannot ask for the best and cheapest in the same breath!


Buy one from here and you won't go far wrong

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/categories/search/submersible-pumps-clean-water



My advice........

Forget all this 'cheapest' rubbish...buy the best you can afford.

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: Andrew44 on February 07, 2008, 11:25:39 pm

PJ

Are these better than draper pumps.  Would you say clarkes are best???

The 120 ltr per minute is more than enough to fill 400 ltr container BUT as I've got 20 mts to pump water to van how much will the output drop??  Will i need to get higher than 120 lts / min to compensate for the 20 mtrs run.??

I want to fill the 400 in no more than 10 mins really (if I have to go back to base to fill-up)

Thanks

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: Pj on February 07, 2008, 11:35:51 pm

Well it sounds like you are on the case now.

I don't know about Draper, but I do know that Machinemart stuff is usually robust and lasts.

Work out what does the job best.

If you need to do 0 - 60 in 5 seconds... You buy an engine that does it in 2 or 3 don't you. ;)

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: alanwilson on February 07, 2008, 11:41:19 pm

Hi Andrew - if you pump through 1 inch bore tubing you will notice a very large drop in flow over that distance.  I'd recommend something like this

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=144843

or this is what we use (got another one as a spare)

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=91683

be aware though that it has a 38mm aperture (you can buy an adapter to make it fit 1 inch or 1.25 inch tubing)

even the smaller einhell will be very fast (and I think they're made in Germany)

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: Andrew44 on February 07, 2008, 11:48:03 pm

Thanks Alan

The Einhell pump seems amazingly cheap??  Are they a good make or would you recommened draper.  Don't want to go too cheap!!

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: alanwilson on February 07, 2008, 11:56:43 pm

they have a 1 year guarantee from what I see plus a stainless steel shaft drive.

you prob won't get anything better for under £100, which is why I wish I'd bought 2 of them instead of what I have, well, they're a bit slower but a lot cheaper.

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: Andrew44 on February 08, 2008, 12:01:41 am

Thanks.

Is the lay flat hosed just connected by jubille clip???  Presume there is not a screw thread adaptor that I could buy to connect hose to pump??

How do you connect it??

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: alanwilson on February 08, 2008, 12:04:57 am

don't buy layflat hose, its sh.... not very good.

wait 5 mins and I'll get you a link for the hose you want.  the adapter comes with the pump (or so it says on the link)

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: alanwilson on February 08, 2008, 12:06:54 am

ok its the bottom 2 hoses (1 inch and 1.25inch)

http://www.reachandclean.co.uk/acatalog/Hoses.html

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: Andrew44 on February 08, 2008, 12:14:10 am

Thanks

Alan

On a few web sites it has said thsi:

Important:
Most submersible pumps require a lay flay hose which has a wider diameter than garden hose in order to drain the water without damaging the pump, to allow for particles (if applicable) and to allow for fast flow rates.


Is it ok to use standard hose then???  Don't want to damadge pump!!

If I got the £40 german pump what hose will I need 1" or 1.5 "?? What connectors would be required???

Sorry for all questions ;D

ta

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: alanwilson on February 08, 2008, 12:18:08 am

just checked it again and it needs 1 inch hose, don't use half inch hose, it'll be far too slow.  it only says to use layflat on the site because they sell it!!

you'll also need a jubilee clip for the hose, a tap/nozzle for the end of the hose to stop it siphoning out as well.

do you want me to source it all for you now??

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: alanwilson on February 08, 2008, 12:22:10 am

nozzles

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=28635

or

http://www.reachandclean.co.uk/acatalog/Misceallenous.html ball valve 1"

Jubilee clips - try halfords (you'll need 33mm clips)

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: alanwilson on February 08, 2008, 12:23:11 am

I'd really recommend the nozzle from the 1st tooled-up link, its what we use and is pretty much indestructible.

Title: Re: BEST PLACE TO BUT SUB-PUMP???
Post by: Andrew44 on February 08, 2008, 07:51:13 am

Alan

Many thanks for all your help.  I may be back with more questions !! ;D