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Title: acetone trial run
Post by: jikwan on February 03, 2008, 01:43:25 pm
acetone £1.80 for 500 ml

put a small  quantity of the stuff into my 1990 astra estate 1600
so far-
starts real easy from cold
nippy acceleration
engine smooth running
more power
now i use 4th gear instead of 3rd  5th gear instead of 4th

it usually does 35mpg loaded with water  a lot of stop start
when my tank gets empty i expect much more mpg when i check
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Stuart Webster on February 03, 2008, 01:48:02 pm
Where did you get it from?
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: jampot on February 03, 2008, 01:56:37 pm
is it 100% safe to use ?
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: jikwan on February 03, 2008, 01:56:59 pm
actually £2.39 not £1.80

ebay   type in-     PURE ACETONE NAIL VARNISH REMOVER, 500ml - 1/2 litre

almost impossible to buy from shops etc
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: jikwan on February 03, 2008, 02:03:29 pm
the only one bad effect it might have is could eat away some inferior hose or cheap plastic in the fuel system

there is a site specializing in acetone use ill try to find it
on it are a lot of posts on its effects

dont get it on your paintwork also

put too much of it in --apparently decreases mpg
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: [GQC] Tim on February 03, 2008, 02:08:55 pm
That myth is totally busted.  ;)
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: jikwan on February 03, 2008, 02:13:08 pm
what myth is that?
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on February 03, 2008, 02:18:13 pm
I've been using 40ml per 40litres of Doozal in my 200tdi Landy, and it DOE'S make a positive difference to the running of your engine. Quieter, smoother, and just generally a nicer drive - not so sure about increased MPG, maybe a mile or two for me.

You can get acetone from :

http://www.seabase.eu/onlineshop.asp?cat=Chemicals|Acetone_(pure)&sbtag=462libcategories

Get yourself a big syringe to squirt it into your tank before you fill up.

At that concentration, I really can't see it doing to much harm to your rubber bits.

Your basically just adding enough the break up the surface tension of the dooozal, and allowing it to vaporize better in the combustion chambers. Too much and it can have negative effects!!

Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: [GQC] Tim on February 03, 2008, 02:52:24 pm
what myth is that?

Acetone doing anything good for your car except degrade your fuel lines over time.

If you check what Mythbusters did in their episode on this, there is just no way that in other cases it can all of the sudden be better for mileage.

If it runs smoother, it's probably because your injectors were dirty, and the acetone cleared it.
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: jikwan on February 03, 2008, 03:13:34 pm
my guess is mythbusters were heavily sponsored by big oil

ialso wonder why you cant buy acetone   its nowhere to be seen

cant wait to use up my fuel
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: williamx on February 03, 2008, 03:23:20 pm
Are you using petrol or diesel as fuel?
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: [GQC] Tim on February 03, 2008, 03:41:53 pm
my guess is mythbusters were heavily sponsored by big oil

ialso wonder why you cant buy acetone   its nowhere to be seen

cant wait to use up my fuel

lol, nice conspiracy theory.

They tested both Diesel and Petrol. Not a single bit of difference.

Acetone would clean dirty injectors, which would cause you to get a higher mpg, and a smoother running engine guaranteed.
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: jikwan on February 03, 2008, 03:52:05 pm
using petrol
pierburg carburettor  really lousy thing it is
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: d s windowcleaning on February 03, 2008, 04:30:16 pm
get asome red x mate .
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Paul Coleman on February 03, 2008, 04:53:22 pm
acetone £1.80 for 500 ml

put a small  quantity of the stuff into my 1990 astra estate 1600
so far-
starts real easy from cold
nippy acceleration
engine smooth running
more power
now i use 4th gear instead of 3rd  5th gear instead of 4th

it usually does 35mpg loaded with water  a lot of stop start
when my tank gets empty i expect much more mpg when i check

Using a higher gear now?  Wait for those big ends to start knocking   ;D
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Moderator David@stives on February 03, 2008, 05:13:19 pm
Why mess about just use these guys , i have my diesel delivered.

Works out about half the price of the local garage forecourts.

http://www.petroldirect.com/index.htm
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: jikwan on February 03, 2008, 05:26:10 pm
hey shiner
rubbish

canadian truckdrivers are using hydrogen mix with deisel long time now
real explosive power in cylinder
theyre using 2 lower gears--going uphill
if engine aint juddering go as low as you want

sounds like you have the classic big end paranoia fixation syndrome
no known cure so far
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Paul Coleman on February 03, 2008, 05:35:15 pm
hey shiner
rubbish

canadian truckdrivers are using hydrogen mix with deisel long time now
real explosive power in cylinder
theyre using 2 lower gears--going uphill
if engine aint juddering go as low as you want

sounds like you have the classic big end paranoia fixation syndrome
no known cure so far

So it can't be treated then?  Pity.  I was going to make an appointment tomorrow.  :)
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: [GQC] Tim on February 03, 2008, 05:38:22 pm
hey shiner
rubbish

canadian truckdrivers are using hydrogen mix with deisel long time now
real explosive power in cylinder
theyre using 2 lower gears--going uphill
if engine aint juddering go as low as you want

sounds like you have the classic big end paranoia fixation syndrome
no known cure so far

yea but trucks have much higher torgue, different gears, and are just made for low rev pulling. Not so with your normal car. Regardless, if you get under a certain rpm your engine has to work harder, and will wear more quickly. Simple logic really.

Not saying you'll notice it with normal mileage, or that big ends wear. Just saying that your engine does have to work harder.
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Paul Coleman on February 03, 2008, 05:40:34 pm
Why mess about just use these guys , i have my diesel delivered.

Works out about half the price of the local garage forecourts.

http://www.petroldirect.com/index.htm

 ;D    That Vin Diesel looks really cheap.
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: [GQC] Tim on February 03, 2008, 05:45:04 pm
Why mess about just use these guys , i have my diesel delivered.

Works out about half the price of the local garage forecourts.

http://www.petroldirect.com/index.htm

ordering system doesn't work.

how do they deliver it? They say through your letterbox haha.
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Moderator David@stives on February 03, 2008, 05:48:28 pm
Shiner

I wouldnt use that myself, it may cause misfiring and head gasket failure if over-used.

I have mine left in my back garden in 25 litre drums if i am not in, you have to arrange with the delivery driver, the letter box thing is for the American market who usually have a delivery box in there gardens.
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: frames to panes on February 03, 2008, 05:52:30 pm
i've got 1000 litres of the rainbow fuel - silver like my van. Exact match!
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Stuart Webster on February 03, 2008, 08:32:42 pm
Why mess about just use these guys , i have my diesel delivered.

Works out about half the price of the local garage forecourts.

http://www.petroldirect.com/index.htm

I've got my fuel from them for over a year now, saved me £100's of pounds.

The ordering system often goes down when they have a lot of traffic.
Best thing to do is order it about 3am when the internet is quiet.
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: [GQC] Tim on February 04, 2008, 10:30:33 am
So how do you guys get it from the barrel to the van? That could be a bit tricky?

Dunno how much a 25l barrel weighs, but that must be not easy to just tip it in with a funnel?
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: mark dew on February 04, 2008, 03:47:11 pm
petrol direct explains why you can't order here:

http://www.petroldirect.com/about-us.htm
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Moderator David@stives on February 04, 2008, 03:50:12 pm
I can't believe how cheap they are - I ordered thirty litres of super unleaded and it was there, next day, left on my doorstep in 2 litre plastic bottles.
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: frames to panes on February 04, 2008, 04:56:30 pm
I use my shureflow van pump to pump it into my tank, quick swill out with meths after and off to work. Keep my silver Deisel in 1000l ibc tank on top of my pure water.
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Jon-scwindows on February 04, 2008, 05:45:36 pm
Jikwan - what size tank do you have in your astra estate 1600? and how much water do you carry?
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: jikwan on February 04, 2008, 06:41:35 pm
on really heavy workday 175/200 lit
25 lit drums+trolley+ladder  goes good no problem
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Jeff Brimble on February 04, 2008, 06:48:26 pm
I think it's shocking - sending petrol in the post is incredibly dangerous!
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Jon-scwindows on February 04, 2008, 07:05:58 pm
on really heavy workday 175/200 lit
25 lit drums+trolley+ladder  goes good no problem

thats about the same with me... im only in a 16v ford escort estate lxi 1600 and can carry about 175 litres, in barrels i hate changing them over, though i havent been using a trolley. i usually carry 7 drums, aux batt pump etc.. + ladders, still goes well but quite allot of weight for an estate.
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: jikwan on February 04, 2008, 07:26:36 pm
bout a year ago i bought this round in derby  couldnt find a room to rent
every week id drive from swindon to derby with 300lit tolley ladder etc
sleep in the car  5 weeks   in the winter
estate springs are heavy duty  dont worry
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Jon-scwindows on February 04, 2008, 08:22:17 pm
hopefully it will be ok, did you notice how the tires go down allot, i mean squished down and rounded out a bit when loaded? what pressure do you fill your tires too? the garages say 26
i am fedup with changing barrels so i have bought a flat 250 ltr tank and metal straps to bolt it down, it just fits in the back, but i take the back seats out anyway to save some weight. I dont think il be able to carry 250ltrs but id rather have it all in one tank than fiddling about changing them, i dont take ladders anymore except some steps inside, so that will be better. I have noticed you have to be easier on the clutch and gentle accelerating and braking, but i cant afford a van right now.
Most of my round is 40+ miles away so about 100 miles each day it has been, but now i usually travel there, and stay at a relatives there which is handy as they let me keep a 1000ltr ibc in the garage and ro unit. I just pay them £20 a month for water, and stay down there for a week or less to get it done.
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: jikwan on February 04, 2008, 08:45:59 pm
john, yes 30psi all four of them
sure everythings got to be gentle
i use the gears a lot to slow down instead of breaks
fully loaded i drive slow  i dont worry about having to stay close to the next car
usually 30-40 yards behind the rest
why dont you ask an experienced mechanic on how much weight your estate can handle?   i suspect its more than you think
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: stevekennedy on February 04, 2008, 09:06:25 pm
Nice wind-up site that. Who made it? Had me going for a few minutes  :D
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on February 04, 2008, 09:10:23 pm
What do you mean had you going :-\

I've placed my order, and should be getting delivery in the morning... ;D
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: ronnie paton on February 04, 2008, 09:47:43 pm
so do you get a reciept for the diesel to put it through the books??
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: Jon-scwindows on February 04, 2008, 10:01:14 pm
john, yes 30psi all four of them
sure everythings got to be gentle
i use the gears a lot to slow down instead of breaks
fully loaded i drive slow  i dont worry about having to stay close to the next car
usually 30-40 yards behind the rest
why dont you ask an experienced mechanic on how much weight your estate can handle?   i suspect its more than you think

ok, il put my tires upto 30 then, i didnt think an estate would be ok with around 200 litres but you say youve carried 300 before.. i didnt really have anywhere left to put the barrels as before i used to have 1 between the front seat and dash, 2 behind each seat, and 2 behind the back seats, then theres hose reel battery and pump box and poles. I dont want to fill the 250 ltr tank full because the weight of the tank alone and the metal straps is probably around 25kg empty, + 250 kgs water + 5 kg hose reel + 10kg batt and pump + poles 3kg + odd trad gear kg + steps 1kg + me 65kg ish minus back seats 10kg = 350kg as a payload,
id say about 4-5 people as a full car would be about 300kg max so its pushing it a bit.
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: jikwan on February 11, 2008, 08:20:00 pm
trial run so far........
i usually get 35mpg   after putting 2 gal in  still getting same mpg
but it starts real easy more nippy a lot more zip and slightly more zap
quieter and smoother
the next refills ill try putting more acetone in and try less   see what happens
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: xxmattyxx on February 11, 2008, 08:23:34 pm
acetone £1.80 for 500 ml

put a small  quantity of the stuff into my 1990 astra estate 1600
so far-
starts real easy from cold
nippy acceleration
engine smooth running
more power
now i use 4th gear instead of 3rd  5th gear instead of 4th

it usually does 35mpg loaded with water  a lot of stop start
when my tank gets empty i expect much more mpg when i check

What amount of water do carry in that?

Matt
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: xxmattyxx on February 11, 2008, 08:25:19 pm
acetone £1.80 for 500 ml

put a small  quantity of the stuff into my 1990 astra estate 1600
so far-
starts real easy from cold
nippy acceleration
engine smooth running
more power
now i use 4th gear instead of 3rd  5th gear instead of 4th

it usually does 35mpg loaded with water  a lot of stop start
when my tank gets empty i expect much more mpg when i check

What amount of water do carry in that?

Matt

s'ok, sorry, read the rest of the page  ;D
Title: Re: acetone trial run
Post by: jikwan on February 11, 2008, 08:31:42 pm
hi matt
usually 125 lit a day
heavy days 200 lit