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Title: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 23, 2008, 10:36:10 pm
Hi all,

Pete (ex-lands) and I are in the process of organising a ccdo (carpet cleaners day out) event hopefully to be held in a few months time. Our event will be an informal affair and cover a variety of subjects arrising on this forum all the time. Venue and date to be arranged but will be in the Midlands somewhere possibly Birmingham area.

Workshops for the day will include:

Paul Moss (quick leather cleaning, repair and re-colouring) *This session is not for beginners!
Dave Liahona (saturation rug cleaning, if time allows dye setting, stain removal, re-tufting & re-weaving)
Doug Holloway (chemistry / stain removal using high street products)
TBA (basic marketing, leaflets etc.)
Chris Straker (how to market the green side of your business)
More to be confirmed......

Price for the day is to be arranged and include light refreshments throughout the day and a buffet for lunch.

We will also be sorting out accomodation at a (hopefully) discounted rate for anyone that wants to stay over after the event. Will be good to go out for a meal and have a few beers again the same as last year!!

Any questions or suggestions for the day please contact me on (07721 827163) / jasonhedges73@aol.com or Pete on (07816 276290) / pete@oakleafcc.co.uk

If anyone is interested in coming along please put your hand up so we can gauge numbers and start looking for possible venues.

Also, if anyone has a subject area they would like covered on the day or if they would like to contribute to the day please let us know!!

All the best,
Jason.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 23, 2008, 10:44:18 pm
Perhaps in the marketing you could have specifics like how to convert at higher prices over the phone or techniques on in the home quotes, alot of cleaners would benefit from this also how to sell protector and also upselling extra rooms on the same trip.

I'll try and post a few more ideas but obviously if it's a full day or I'm talking poo then take no notice.

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 23, 2008, 10:47:26 pm
Good idea Shaun we missed that. Have a background in sales so can run that one myself. Thanks

Pete
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 23, 2008, 10:49:05 pm
Nice one Shaun, great idea.

Keep them coming, we want to provide what people are interested in!

Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 23, 2008, 11:14:14 pm
Can Doug or Ian put this down as a sticky?
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Art on January 23, 2008, 11:26:18 pm
Give Mike Hall a ring.

He's the envirodri rep and i'm sure he would be happy to give a demo on dry cleaning.

His number is 07969344765

Arthur
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: John Kelly on January 23, 2008, 11:30:24 pm
No longer I believe.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 23, 2008, 11:32:04 pm
John, can we speak about this?


No longer I believe.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Art on January 23, 2008, 11:33:17 pm
No longer I believe.

What Mike Hall has left?
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 23, 2008, 11:47:57 pm
Give Mike Hall a ring.

He's the envirodri rep and i'm sure he would be happy to give a demo on dry cleaning.

His number is 07969344765

Arthur

Thanks Art,

We're looking at having some trade stands / demos too.

All the best,
Jason.

Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Art on January 23, 2008, 11:56:18 pm
Give Mike Hall a ring.

He's the envirodri rep and i'm sure he would be happy to give a demo on dry cleaning.

His number is 07969344765

Arthur

Thanks Art,

We're looking at having some trade stands / demos too.

All the best,
Jason.



Jason, if your going to carpex, sound out a few of the suppliers when your there

Arthur
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 24, 2008, 12:06:01 am
Yes will be going, good idea mate!

Thanks again.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Neil Grainger on January 24, 2008, 06:08:58 am
Great idea, would love to come.

What about a section on getting the best out of the web and also what about asking Yellow Pages and Thomson to do a question and answer session. They never believe what we tell them about their books.


Cheers Neil
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 24, 2008, 06:35:03 am
Hi Neil

I agree re web and that idea has aleady been knocked about. Will look into. Doubt YP or Thompson would send someone down for what will be an aggressive version of the Spanish inquisition though.

Pete
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: maxcarpets on January 24, 2008, 06:56:45 am
Sounds good, my hand's up!

Justin
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on January 24, 2008, 07:29:46 am
what about a little award giveing out ??? have a few vans on show like a car show it will give people many idears on how to set there vans out , what to carry and the best way to make use of space ??

how many times have you seen a pic on here and thought thats a good idear never thought of that
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 24, 2008, 07:45:54 am
We are thinking along those lines but thought we could do a porty vs TM competition for a bit of fun at the end of the day. I'm sure Dave Liahona would be happy to represent the TMs and I'm happy to take a beating from him on the porty front but yeah why not, I'm sure we could take a look at each others vans at some point.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Neil Grainger on January 24, 2008, 07:52:33 am
Pete

As long as your porty is top of the range, then he may have some competion, make sure he vacuums and pre sprays as well as a lot truckys dont do this even against the rules of NCCA.

Cheers

Neil
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on January 24, 2008, 07:57:22 am
We are thinking along those lines but thought we could do a porty vs TM competition for a bit of fun at the end of the day. I'm sure Dave Liahona would be happy to represent the TMs and I'm happy to take a beating from him on the porty front but yeah why not, I'm sure we could take a look at each others vans at some point.

i will be happy to bring my t.m. and let people try it out from start to finish
(unwraping pipes, pre spaying , cleaning and packing away) so people get the full idear
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: David_Annable on January 24, 2008, 07:58:40 am
Hi

Please add my name to the list.

Dave
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 24, 2008, 08:01:27 am
This is Dave's point Neil. When you are working with both volume and power of water, you don't need to do that sort of prep and whilst I have never seen it done I don't doubt Dave's word. My porty is decent enough and I can whip up 400psi with heat (Ninja) but against 1000psi (with volume) I know he will beat me it's just whether the prep I do would show a better result. It would certainly put an age old debate to bed.

You coming? Plenty of you  have read  this post but only a few said yes. Surprised (even in this short space of time) that we haven't had more yes's.

Pete
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Doug Holloway on January 24, 2008, 08:10:06 am
Hi Guys

I have made it sticky as requested.

As for my bit I plan a pratical demonstration of the use of Solvents in particular for stain removal, what works on what, simple chemical composition so you know why it's likely to work, reaction to fabrics, health and safety etc.

It would be simple chemistry with a heavy emphasis on practical stain removal.

I think it's an excellent idea to have real world CC's demonstrating their particular knowledge, there's a lot of it out there  ;)

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: carpet guy on January 24, 2008, 08:11:14 am
Has anyone ever used 1000psi on carpets, has there ever been an occasion when 1000psi was needed to clean carpet ?

rob
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 24, 2008, 08:13:53 am
Has anyone ever used 1000psi on carpets, has there ever been an occasion when 1000psi was needed to cleen carpet ?

rob

A question I'm sure Dave will be happy to answer (and perhaps even demonstrate). Rob, you know your stuff, anything you would like to cover?
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Michel Roberts on January 24, 2008, 08:20:14 am
Yes I would like to attend, count me in please.

Michel Roberts
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Phillip Mold on January 24, 2008, 08:26:36 am
Hi, please count me in
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Neil Grainger on January 24, 2008, 08:28:16 am
Yes Pete, I am coming.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: John Gregory on January 24, 2008, 08:56:08 am
count me in

John
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 24, 2008, 08:59:01 am
count me in

John

Nice one John, Hows it going?

Pete
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: John Gregory on January 24, 2008, 09:25:26 am
crap at the moment Pete , I've spent most of the last 2 weeks sat at home watching Jeremy Kyle if doesn't pick up soon I might have to get a proper Job

John
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 24, 2008, 09:34:09 am
Been labouring in London for the same reason. Roll on the summer eh.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 24, 2008, 10:50:21 am
Jeremy Kyle won't make your phone ring!

Go out and see retailers, post leaflets, database, letting agents.

Shaun

OOps it's 10.48 in the morning and I'm at home Doh!
 
My excuse is that my van breaks need doing, my data base is going out as I type and Jeremy Kyle is winging his way to me with a cuppa.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 24, 2008, 10:51:52 am
You up for this Shaun?
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 24, 2008, 01:46:43 pm
definately but with having no money today may I have a discount? it's cold and dark in Yorkshire and there's no electricity because the lines don't come here that's why I have a TM and run on petrol.

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Ken Wainwright on January 24, 2008, 01:55:37 pm
I'll be announcing soon an NCCA Workshop event to be held in Shropshire in April. It'll be part seminar and part hands on.  The dye on the carpet you'll be (safely) cleaning bleeds!

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Steve Chapman on January 24, 2008, 01:58:42 pm
count us in, two doctors for the price of one ;D


steve
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 24, 2008, 02:03:14 pm
definately but with having no money today may I have a discount? it's cold and dark in Yorkshire and there's no electricity because the lines don't come here that's why I have a TM and run on petrol.

Shaun

Don't give me that, your the richest bugger on here. You can pay double.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 24, 2008, 02:26:08 pm
I've just spoken to John Kelly, he's up for bringing a prowler along. Either the current 13hp or new 15hp. Looking forward to having a go!
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 24, 2008, 02:31:16 pm
Why not look through the NCCA associate members you could get some from there?

http://www.ncca.co.uk/associate_members.htm

Shaun

PS Pete DOUBLE :o will you take 2p a month?
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 24, 2008, 02:33:34 pm
Have we got any proposed dates? obviously if you can get a date now we can FIX it in our diaries and book holidays, jobs, funerals around it.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 24, 2008, 03:04:33 pm
Have we got any proposed dates? obviously if you can get a date now we can FIX it in our diaries and book holidays, jobs, funerals around it.

No date yet mate still looking at possible venues depending on the level of interest. Hopefully in a couple of months time March/April.

"Book funerals around it" - You thinking of knocking someone off Shaun and planning it not to clash with the day ;D

Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 24, 2008, 03:08:53 pm
Some people can be so inconciderate so if I book a date in my diary they will already know I won't be around to see them burn.

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Joe H on January 24, 2008, 03:15:41 pm
Pete & Jason

Put my name down ................ but all depends on the day/date.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 24, 2008, 03:19:19 pm
Some people can be so inconciderate so if I book a date in my diary they will already know I won't be around to see them burn.

Shaun

Got your priorities right mate ;D

Nice one Joe,

We'll hopefully have a venue and date in the next couple of days.

All the best,
Jason.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Tony Gill Carpet Smart on January 24, 2008, 05:08:31 pm
Hi Jason & Pete.
I'm interested in coming.

CHEERS TONY
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: david_green on January 25, 2008, 02:56:56 pm
Hi

Count me in.

David Green
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 25, 2008, 02:59:02 pm
Just a thought but Dave Ingram supplied Goodyear sports and Social in Wolverhampton which is central to most?

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Mike_Boxall on January 25, 2008, 06:15:09 pm
Hi Guys

If you'd like me to do a spot on internet marketing for carpet cleaners please let me know.

Regards

Mike
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 25, 2008, 07:20:39 pm
Just a thought but Dave Ingram supplied Goodyear sports and Social in Wolverhampton which is central to most?

Shaun

Thanks Shaun thats one venue in pole position at the moment. Its been used for several other gatherings in the past and sounds ideal!

Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 25, 2008, 07:23:57 pm
Hi Guys

If you'd like me to do a spot on internet marketing for carpet cleaners please let me know.

Regards

Mike

Thanks Mike,

That sounds great, had lots of emails regarding the subject that people would like covered. Is is ok if I give you a call next week to discuss the offer?

All the best,
Jason.

Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 25, 2008, 07:46:02 pm
Jason with the way YP is going down the drain and the internet is moving on (well perhaps not so up North) well Mike would do us all a favour please don't pass it up, if we can get someone to talk about onsite quotes and someone else about telephone quotes then that's covered I think that is worth going for on it's own.

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Mike_Boxall on January 25, 2008, 07:52:59 pm
Thanks Mike,
That sounds great, had lots of emails regarding the subject that people would like covered. Is is ok if I give you a call next week to discuss the offer?
All the best,
Jason.

Sure, no problem. My direct number is 01684 580684.

Regards

Mike
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 25, 2008, 07:56:14 pm
Thanks Mike thats excellent ;D.

I'll give you a call early part of next week.

All the best,
Jason.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 25, 2008, 08:04:34 pm
Jason with the way YP is going down the drain and the internet is moving on (well perhaps not so up North) well Mike would do us all a favour please don't pass it up, if we can get someone to talk about onsite quotes and someone else about telephone quotes then that's covered I think that is worth going for on it's own.

Shaun

Hi Shaun,

I think Pete might be up for discussing YP as he used to work for them. Only assuming as he's away for a couple of days but spoken today on the phone a few times regarding event.

If anyone is available to discuss quoting that would be good as you so rightly mention. Also selling ad-ons (protectors, treatments etc.) while quoting would be interesting as well.

Making lots of calls at the moment to see what we can sort out. We're trying to make this day full of bits and pieces most people are interested in and come up on the forums all the time.

If anyone wants to be considered please get in touch.

All the best,
Jason.


Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 25, 2008, 08:15:18 pm
Shaun,

Do you fancy doing something on the day?

Perhaps about running a successfull cleaning business for 20 years?

Or just buying the first round ;D
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on January 25, 2008, 10:02:23 pm
Shaun,

Do you fancy doing something on the day?

Perhaps about running a successfull cleaning business for 20 years?

Or just buying the first round ;D

shaun buying a round your haveing a laff he alway goes to the toilet when its his turn   lololol  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 25, 2008, 10:19:44 pm
Shaun,

Do you fancy doing something on the day?

Perhaps about running a successfull cleaning business for 20 years?

Or just buying the first round ;D

shaun buying a round your haveing a laff he alway goes to the toilet when its his turn   lololol  ;D ;D ;D

Must be a different Shaun Ashmore, as far as I know he fights his way to the bar to buy the first round, no expense spared :o.


Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 26, 2008, 02:17:37 pm

good to see the interest is there.


going to bed now. Just got in from a 17hr shift. night night
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 26, 2008, 10:15:24 pm
I'm tea total so I'm afraid I don't go near the bars but I could always change the habbit if someone is buying?

Jason the best onsite quoters are the fast track boys as they charge the highest and get good return on conversions although I don't know if they'll show their lap top presentation but I think the general stuff ie answering objections or upselling would be enough.

On the phone a guy called Stuart Clark has a telesales guy called Jimmy he's definately worth it! might need a personal invite though, I'll ask him.

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: carpet guy on January 27, 2008, 11:03:02 am
Guys..............The enthusiasm is great, but your time will be very restricted and will fly, I suggest you only have one marketing presentation and with the web growth Mike Boxall might be the man. After all if there was no Mike you would not be meeting like this.

Practical demos -  with everyone wanting a go - use up time, but that is what most people will want, to find a better, quicker, easier way.








Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 27, 2008, 02:18:56 pm
Is Mike a carpet cleaner? I'm looking at the 1 man band marketing which for most on here is the majority ;D but obviously Mike started somewhere.

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: carpet guy on January 27, 2008, 03:06:22 pm
You normally talk sense Shaun, well, most of the time, but can't see the difference in marketing for a " one man band " or a full blown orchestra, if they supply the same service.

Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 27, 2008, 03:24:58 pm
You normally talk sense Shaun, well, most of the time, but can't see the difference in marketing for a " one man band " or a full blown orchestra, if they supply the same service.



Maybe he's talking about money (a subject closer to Shauns heart than his Aorta). Mktng to keep 10 truckmounts running and one porty are two very different matters.

Pete
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 27, 2008, 03:26:18 pm
When you are a biiger concern you go for different work or selling a product or service as you'll send your best technician, if you are a smaller one you tend to play on your personality ie buying me.

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: carpet guy on January 27, 2008, 04:10:40 pm
Don't know how I never thought of that, damn you're one smart cookie

rob
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 27, 2008, 05:55:15 pm
Any thoughts from those interested on wether this should take place on a week or weekend day?
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Neil Grainger on January 27, 2008, 05:58:41 pm
Friday or a Sunday as those that waont to work on the monday can and those that dont work the weekend can stay over and get drunk.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 27, 2008, 06:35:45 pm
p.s. anyone know the name of the venue where the TM boys have their sunny day out? Jason given me insufficient detail to find it.

Pete
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Ian Gourlay on January 27, 2008, 06:36:45 pm
When you are a biiger concern you go for different work or selling a product or service as you'll send your best technician, if you are a smaller one you tend to play on your personality ie buying me.

Shaun

I would say in early days Mr B had to do just that.

You forget he has won numerous rewards for his on line activities

If he was apearing at a Seminar  of business  leaders people would pay hundreds for his words of wisdom.

t
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 27, 2008, 07:16:56 pm
Thats the price for attendance on the day sorted then. ;D
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 27, 2008, 07:31:22 pm
Is this it?

http://goodyearpavilion.co.uk/

Shaun

PS Jason did you get my email?
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 27, 2008, 07:48:11 pm
Thanks Shaun, put goodyear in and all I got was hotels and tyres but not the two together.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Len Gribble on January 27, 2008, 09:11:32 pm
Shaun

Looks like it ;D

Pete

Don’t ask gunny for directions. :-X

Len
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 27, 2008, 09:19:25 pm
Knowone is knocking Mike and his credentials but most on here are looking at mirroring success from a 1 man band.

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 27, 2008, 09:40:43 pm
Is this it?

http://goodyearpavilion.co.uk/

Shaun

PS Jason did you get my email?

Hi Shaun,  yes i did mate, did you get mine?

All the best,
Jason.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 27, 2008, 10:22:50 pm
Some have raised some fears about the event but the ethos will remain so don't worry it will be a day that is useful, practical, devoid of the hard sell and a bit of a laugh.
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 28, 2008, 01:13:13 pm
We now have some more detail re event.

Date: 7th April

Cost per ticket: £35 (includes tea/coffee and hot/cold buffet lunch)

Venue: http://goodyearpavilion.co.uk/

Pete

Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: Tony Gill Carpet Smart on January 28, 2008, 01:59:53 pm
Hi Pete.
What is your limit on the number of people that can attend the day.

CHEERS TONY
Title: Re: CCDO
Post by: lands on January 28, 2008, 02:06:22 pm
Venue holds up to 300 but doubt we'll get near that first time round (wouldn't want to either). If we can get bewteen 50-100 that would be good.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: richie on January 28, 2008, 07:13:35 pm
Pete,

£35 for tea, coffee n a snack :o :o :o,     would it be ok if i bring a flask and my dr who sandwhich box? 

Richie.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on January 28, 2008, 07:19:30 pm
Pete,

£35 for tea, coffee n a snack :o :o :o,     would it be ok if i bring a flask and my dr who sandwhich box? 

Richie.

For all that training you'd normally pay 3 times that.

Seriously though we have struck a deal with the venue to keep the cost down. Details will follow.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Ian Gourlay on January 29, 2008, 08:11:42 am
Although it would be good to see everyone  if you got 300 unless you had continous seminars you would not see anything or  be able to ask questions.

I remember one at Milton Keynes  Nick was surronded by his Groupies ;D ;D ;D and all the samples went in about 5 minutes.

if I got one I might have been an Mpower or Aleg stop man ??? ???

Anyway I wish you well .

One day someone will do one in Peterborough






Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: stevegunn on January 29, 2008, 08:19:31 am
Although it would be good to see everyone  if you got 300 unless you had continous seminars you would not see anything or  be able to ask questions.

I remember one at Milton Keynes  Nick was surronded by his Groupies ;D ;D ;D and all the samples went in about 5 minutes.

if I got one I might have been an Mpower or Aleg stop man ??? ???

Anyway I wish you well .

One day someone will do one in Peterborough








Money well saved there 8)

Have you got a list of definite suppliers,talks etc etc?
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on January 29, 2008, 09:30:00 am
Ian

not looking at those sorts of numbers (far from it). The sessions will be duplicated to allow people to see everything if they want. You not up for it then?

Steve

The sessions thus far are as the beginning of the thread and suppliers have been contacted who have said yes in principle but I only contacted them yesterday (could'nt do before without a date) so should be able to confirm in next few days mate. Happy to tell you privately who those are but not in here without a definite yes from them.

Just had a yes from Furniture Clinic.

Also DP Print will have a table with literature and and a special offer on 10,000 leaftlets for visitors. Mark himself will not be there as he has just become a dad so I will make up his table.

Pete
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Ian Gourlay on January 29, 2008, 02:54:42 pm
Pete,

Not saying that probably find a cheap travel lodge

Although I go up North alot the;Miidlands is a strange world to me  ;D ;D
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on January 29, 2008, 03:02:15 pm
There is a hotel close by Ian and will try to get a deal there once I have an idea of numbers.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Dave Roelants on January 30, 2008, 12:10:48 am
I'm a bit confused here (nothing new about that) I've attended a few SDO's over the years, the original idea was that it was an opportunity to try various bits of kit without pressure from manufacturers and it all revolved around actually cleaning carpet, so if you wanted to try a Ninja you could, if you wanted to see whether a titanium wand was worth the money have a go with it, of course it needed a good spread of attendees with varying degrees of knowlege and equipment, it enabled Dry fusion to go head to head with a truckmount on the same carpet and soiling conditions without all the marketing hype. Ever tried 4 different upholstery tools on real seats in real condition? Here was your chance. The venue was given free in return for the cleaning of the carpet as were refreshments, lunch and drinks could be paid for if required, usually about £5 a head.When the manufacturers gave their support it added another dimension, we could for the first time test a Prochem machine(for instance) against a Hydramaster(for instance) in real field conditions. This event doesn't seem to do this, am I missing something here?
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Doug Holloway on January 30, 2008, 08:10:15 am
Hi Guys

Dave

The CCDO concept may have evolved, but doesn't everything.

This day should be much more wide ranging and potentially rewarding  and there will be a chance to compare machines etc in real life situations and also to learn from other real life CC's who maybe have a greater indepth knowledge.

I am looking forward to listening to/discussing with the likes of Paul, Dave and Chris.

As for cost I understand there is a charge per delegate but 35 Pounds, tax deductable is hardly going to break the bank !

For my part it is noticeable from the topics which repeatedly come up , that many would benefit from a more in depth technical knowledge unencumbered by the need to push a particular marketing line.

Stain removal is always useful, if a difficult one to pull off as anyone who hads ever tried will tell.

Cheers

Doug

Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: stevegunn on January 30, 2008, 08:24:30 am
I would imagine part of the £35 will be going to the speakers cannot see them doing it for nothing right or wrong, £35 is hardly going to break the bank if you at least pick up one thing which will make your business better.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Joe H on January 30, 2008, 09:02:26 am
What I would like to see is Restormates Prowler working along side Solutions UK 2008 Scorpion - to see how they compare in performance.
The Prowler because of its compactness and relatively low cost as a TM, and the Scorpion because of it (arguably) being the best portable currently available.
Although the Prowler is probably £2k (ish) dearer - I would like to see if any extra performance is worth the extra money bearing in mind loss of portability.

But it probably wont happen, will it. Shame.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Tony Gill Carpet Smart on January 30, 2008, 09:42:51 am
JOE you not tried a NINJA ?? arguably the best portie out their ha ha ha x ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: *paul_moss on January 30, 2008, 01:16:42 pm
For the record I will not be getting paid for my input on the day and having spoke to Dave Liahona also he is not. We have asked for some expenses to be taken into account for set up etc.
The costs for this I would not thought were great but I would guess there are hidden costs such as telephone costs, supply,petrol costs for travelling to and from the venue ( for checking it out and prior setting up visit) .
At the end of the day Pete and Jason have done the maths and they have a lot of pressure im sure sorting this type of day out and I for one would not expect them to do it for  free.

£35 as Doug says is not going to break the back, if people feel its too expensive then just dont go, easy.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: stevegunn on January 30, 2008, 02:40:36 pm
For the record I will not be getting paid for my input on the day and having spoke to Dave Liahona also he is not. We have asked for some expenses to be taken into account for set up etc.
The costs for this I would not thought were great but I would guess there are hidden costs such as telephone costs, supply,petrol costs for travelling to and from the venue ( for checking it out and prior setting up visit) .
At the end of the day Pete and Jason have done the maths and they have a lot of pressure im sure sorting this type of day out and I for one would not expect them to do it for  free.

£35 as Doug says is not going to break the back, if people feel its too expensive then just dont go, easy.

Not having a go Mossy, if I were travelling down to give a talk/demo I would expect my expenses to be taken into account.It makes me laugh people going on about the cost because 1 job that someone lands because of the techniques picked up on this day will more than pay for it.The NCCA charge for events so why not for this, some people want everything for nothing.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Straker Cleaning on January 30, 2008, 03:33:03 pm
No fee involved for my small input either ......... certainly don't expect one  ::)

Cost of hire and refreshments is what fee will pay for.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Doug Holloway on January 30, 2008, 04:07:25 pm
Hi Guys

I suppose I better ad that I have also not asked for a fee, as by method of elimination some may deduce I'm going to make a killing  :o
 
Lets not get bogged down in pettiness and make this a really useful and fun day.

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: stevegunn on January 30, 2008, 04:24:01 pm
Will a representative from the ncca be there?
Where is everyone staying?

Dougs round I believe ???
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: richie on January 30, 2008, 04:38:04 pm
The last SDO at that venue im sure was about £6 per head.

Richie.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: garyj on January 30, 2008, 04:39:19 pm

Dougs round I believe ???

He is, but I think he is on a diet  :P
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Joe H on January 30, 2008, 04:56:55 pm
For the effort some people are putting in to organise this day I would EXPECT them to be reimbursed AT LEAST their expenses.
20 odd years ago I was on an organisation committee doing a few road safety events for motorcyclists and car drivers and I know what is required to set things up, weeks of planning.
For £35, which includes some grub, I sounds like excellant value for money.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: liahona on January 30, 2008, 04:59:09 pm
Lets try to not compare this day to any other that has happened before as I think this will be quite a unique day.

That said, if you are going to compare, there is a spot and stain removal course being put on by the N.C.C.A.  for just over £180:00 for the day.

Doug is just about to do the same or very similar for free.

Some people just want blood.  

I hope what I have to say and show will be worth, let me see, divided by everything that is going on at the same time, maybe 5 quid.  

I went on an apology of a day about Oriental rug cleaning, learned diddly squat and was shown how to clean a pet damaged rug with an upholstery tool.  What a joke and it cost me £75 if I remember correctly.

Anyway, most if not all will spend more than £35 on drink, food and odds and ends over the day.  So again, whats the beef?

Best, Dave.

P.S. as has already been mentioned I am not getting paid for this either.  Nor would I dream of charging under these circumstances.  Different cirumstances, absolutely..............

Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Straker Cleaning on January 30, 2008, 05:04:12 pm
£35 on lager is a good day out  ::) ..................... food is always an optional extra  ;D
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Dave Roelants on January 30, 2008, 05:55:36 pm
Quote from Doug(This day should be much more wide ranging and potentially rewarding  and there will be a chance to compare machines etc in real life situations and also to learn from other real life CC's who maybe have a greater indepth knowledge.)
Thanks Doug, I'm really not bothered about the cost, if the guys who organise these things want to make money that's ok with me, if you don't like that idea then don't go. My question, which you've partly answered is what machines and equipment can we compare, in other words whoever is going needs to list what equipment they are bringing to the event and if they're willing to let people have  a go with it, have i made myself clearer now? For example I could bring Boxxer 427, Titanium wand, Greenglide, RX20, CFR and Drymaster uph tools and a Turbo Hybrid, I could also demonstrate 4 to the door if anyone wants to see it working
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Doug Holloway on January 30, 2008, 05:57:48 pm
Gary

How did you know I was on a diet.

Dave , it's nice of you to compare my effort with a whole day stain removal course but I'm sure the organisers will only give me an hour !

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Doug Holloway on January 30, 2008, 06:00:15 pm
Hi Dave

I'm sure the organisers and delegates, sounds a bit posh,  would like to see this sort of equipment in competition with say a top porty set up, I believe Pete has some ideas on this.

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: liahona on January 30, 2008, 06:07:54 pm
Doug, thats my point.  In an hour under "live" conditions I am sure I will or could learn more from you than at a full days course for the aforementioned £180.

Best, Dave.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 30, 2008, 07:04:06 pm
Hi all,

Nice to see more interest in the day out. Thanks for the comments and suggestions put forward ;).

Firstly I've noticed the cost of the day being of some concern to a few people.

Me and Pete are not doing this to make money, we obviously have the £6 per head lunch and refreshments cost to cover. As well as numerous hours of phone calls already made, travelling to the venue before the event to inspect layout etc. and our expenses for the event.

Likewise we will insist on at least covering expenses of those contributing to the day.

There has been lots of time gone into this already and will be plenty more before the day. We consider the £35 cost to be very reasonable considering the line-up already and hopefully a few more things to be added.

We are looking to secure the venue and to do so we need a few more names on the list!

All the best,
Jason

Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 30, 2008, 07:27:26 pm
My question, which you've partly answered is what machines and equipment can we compare, in other words whoever is going needs to list what equipment they are bringing to the event and if they're willing to let people have  a go with it, have i made myself clearer now? For example I could bring Boxxer 427, Titanium wand, Greenglide, RX20, CFR and Drymaster uph tools and a Turbo Hybrid, I could also demonstrate 4 to the door if anyone wants to see it working

Dave thats the spirit :). It would be fantastic if you brought your kit along I'm sure many people will be interested (me included). Will be nice seeing your rx20 do the carpets we've got to clean in super fast time ;D. Would love to have a go too if poss! You mention comparing t/m's. My panther 27 is similar in performance to your 427 so perhaps we can compare them side by side.

Same for me, if anyone wants to have a go with my machine they're more than welcome.

If anyone else wants to bring something along of interest let us know.

All the best,
Jason.

Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: John Gregory on January 30, 2008, 07:35:46 pm
I wound personally love to see a dry fusion set up working if any one would oblige


Thanks   John
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 30, 2008, 07:44:12 pm
Hi Dave

I'm sure the organisers and delegates, sounds a bit posh,  would like to see this sort of equipment in competition with say a top porty set up, I believe Pete has some ideas on this.

Cheers

Doug

Hi Doug, its been mentioned so many times about porty vs. t/m we thought it may be possible to compare say a high end porty and entry level t/m in a mini contest. Not sure how we could do this still trying to get my head around it.

I was hoping you would represent the porty and I've got someone to cover the t/m ;D:

(http://www.dirt-busters.co.uk/vortex.jpg)

All the best,
Jason.


Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: *paul_moss on January 30, 2008, 07:47:36 pm
My truck will be better

Dry in ten minutes  :)
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Dave Roelants on January 30, 2008, 07:54:11 pm
OK I'll just do backup then
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: robert stubbs on January 30, 2008, 08:04:16 pm
I've got my portable.


http://www.namcomfg.com/images/equipment/truck_minitwister.jpg
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on January 30, 2008, 08:15:23 pm
Wilbur (the name of my porty) will take you all on! If I lose I will (as a punishment) I will drink 10 pints of stella and make myself really ill.

Pete
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: stevegunn on January 30, 2008, 08:46:54 pm
Wilbur (the name of my porty) will take you all on! If I lose I will (as a punishment) I will drink 10 pints of stella and make myself really ill.

Pete

You big girl only 10 ::) ;)
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 30, 2008, 08:48:32 pm
Wilbur (the name of my porty) will take you all on! If I lose I will (as a punishment) I will drink 10 pints of stella and make myself really ill.

Pete

;D Beat me to it Steve, he turned green after 5 last year :o
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 30, 2008, 08:53:17 pm
I've got my portable.


http://www.namcomfg.com/images/equipment/truck_minitwister.jpg

Hi Robert,

You got one of those? Looks similar to the prowler.

Gonna bring it along?
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: robert stubbs on January 30, 2008, 09:27:05 pm
No,(just joking) haven't got one of those,  its called a Mini Twister, not a bad looking Portable .



 Regards Rob.

Ps  just got my little old Scorpion.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 30, 2008, 09:39:46 pm
Hi Robert,

John Kelly is bringing a prowler along to demo which will be good.

Your machine could qualify for the porty v t/m challenge if your up for it ;).

All the best,
Jason.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: robert stubbs on January 30, 2008, 09:57:45 pm
My Scorpion against the prowler,no problem. Just taken delivery of a four jet wand on a 1.75 bore, running on 2" hose, awesome airflow to water ratio.


 Bring it on,  Rob   8) ;D
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 30, 2008, 10:08:09 pm
Sounds like an interesting match! We'll have to think of a format and see if John or Steve Gunn are up for it as he's got a prowler as well.

Nice one for putting yourself forward :).

Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 30, 2008, 10:27:00 pm
My money (which I don't show around much) is on the prowler, I like to take other peoples money but I don't like to see them cry- well not too much!

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 30, 2008, 10:39:04 pm
Hi Shaun,

You coming then mate? You can run the betting syndicate ;)
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 30, 2008, 10:48:50 pm
Just waiting on a certain date nothing sinister but I'll know very soon, if you want you can have a whip round to pay for my £35.00 unless you are saving up to let the truck mounters come for free ;D

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 30, 2008, 10:55:45 pm
;D Anyone from any other forum is more than welcome. The day is open to all.

Whats £35 to you anyway, you've probably got it in your vans ashtray :).
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 30, 2008, 11:08:44 pm
Poor carpets come from Yorkshire, I have a sticker in my van window saying it!

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 30, 2008, 11:13:51 pm
Poor carpets, rich carpet cleaners thats what i heard ;)
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 30, 2008, 11:24:55 pm
Eh someone say anything?

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 30, 2008, 11:43:36 pm
Hi mate sorry for delay,

Just wading through all the positive posts on t/m'ers ::)
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Ian Gourlay on January 30, 2008, 11:55:57 pm
My Scorpion against the prowler,no problem. Just taken delivery of a four jet wand on a 1.75 bore, running on 2" hose, awesome airflow to water ratio.


 Bring it on,  Rob   8) ;D

Thats great but I would love to see Scorpion versus Glyn wadsworth I remeber the battle he had with Ed Valintine on Cleantalk.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE FIVE ROUND S

DAVE L VERSUS  GARRY ALIAS  PAUL WRIGHT ;D ;D
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on January 30, 2008, 11:59:50 pm
;D Ian, you just come home from the pub by any chance?

You will be given the wooden spoon prize along with Mr Ashmore ;D

Added by Ian

Nothing like a bit of controversy to sell tickets
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Mike Osbourne on January 31, 2008, 01:17:39 pm
Jason

Put me on the list please.


Mike
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: garyj on January 31, 2008, 02:25:44 pm
I heard Chris Straker is dressing up as Kermit The Frog and singing 'It's Not Easy Being Green', that's gotta be worth the ticket price on its own.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on January 31, 2008, 02:30:59 pm
iam going to bring the best carpet cleaner there is on the planit ....... the extracta exle  ;D ;D  well that what they all put in there y.p. adverts round here  ;) ;D
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on January 31, 2008, 03:02:18 pm
Wilbur (the name of my porty) will take you all on! If I lose I will (as a punishment) I will drink 10 pints of stella and make myself really ill.

Pete

You big girl only 10 ::) ;)

I heard you can take a few pints steve. I also heard you (as a sideline) stick three strands of hair on your head occasionally and act as a rab c nesbitt lookalike (quote-Shaun Ashmore, funniest post I ever read on CIU)
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Ian Gourlay on January 31, 2008, 05:31:48 pm
As ther are going to be top guys demonstrating esp Dave  who has a string of

IICRC  QUALIFICATIONS ,have you applied for the day to receive an industry event status so that we can have a continuing education pass.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on January 31, 2008, 05:46:18 pm
Hi Ian,

Which Dave are you referring to (Liahona?)

You raise a good point which I will investigate but because these subjects are far frfom "by the book" I doubt it.

Pete
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: venom on January 31, 2008, 10:35:50 pm
count me in please   :)
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on January 31, 2008, 10:59:45 pm
count me in please   :)

Sorry Venom but I'm a gooner so you can't come ;D
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: mark shannon on February 02, 2008, 05:32:20 pm
anyone any idea how long it would take to get up there from Watford?
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on February 02, 2008, 05:40:10 pm
about 2 hrs from Watford

http://www.theaa.com/travelwatch/inc/planner_places_redirect.jsp

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: *paul_moss on February 02, 2008, 08:45:58 pm
Sorry Shaun but ive got to let people know this.

Just in case Shaun asks you to share a room.

He wears pink Jarmies ;D
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on February 02, 2008, 08:51:23 pm
Paul tried to use them once but I was wearing them at the time :o

Shaun
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on February 03, 2008, 12:47:32 pm
Jason's trying to pair me up in a twin room with Gunny and after what a little bird told me about a certain stay over in Cornwall I think I'll give the whole event a wide birth. :-X
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Straker Cleaning on February 03, 2008, 12:52:51 pm
I could give you a ready to use solution of Solubac as i think i know what you mean  :o ::) ;D
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Straker Cleaning on February 03, 2008, 12:58:54 pm
Would these be of any help .........
 
http://www.dryforlife.co.uk/section.php/6/1/for-men/81977323f655969581da24f4c49134a0

Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on February 03, 2008, 12:59:16 pm
How much can you carry in your van Chris? Not sure an SWB van will be enough will it?
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Straker Cleaning on February 03, 2008, 01:02:24 pm
Sure he has outgrown that phase so just put a sign on the door  ;D
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Straker Cleaning on February 03, 2008, 01:09:34 pm
Just wait till Gunny gets wind of the way this thread has gone ..........
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Straker Cleaning on February 03, 2008, 01:10:30 pm
I meant anger not some vain attempt at pun about farting  ::)


Off to brother in laws for sunday dinner then drink at club ..........will look in later once i have had enough 1664 and can take the flak  ;)
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on February 03, 2008, 01:24:09 pm
I'll take mine sober (only coz I'm not alllowed out).
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Straker Cleaning on February 03, 2008, 01:26:42 pm
Made the wife come up with it as her idea ........... to see her sweet 1 year old nephew  ;)
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on February 03, 2008, 01:32:11 pm
Excellent. Someones tag on here is about diplomacy being the art of letting others get your way. Good work. I work on a reward points system similar to a Nectar card. I let her waste money on useless stuff or wear what she wants me to wear when we go out (and that sort of thing) then I use the points up by going down the pub, getting drunk and trying to pee in the cupboard in the middle of the night. That tends to put me in the red on the card only for me to repeat the process.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on February 03, 2008, 04:10:47 pm
Hi all,

I've sent everyone thats shown interest in the ccdo an email with details about the day and venue including first refusal on rooms at a discounted rate.

If anyone hasn't received an email for some reason (check your spam box first) please let me know and I'll send you one.

Anyone else that wants the details please post your email address on here or email me at jasonhedges73@aol.com

All the best,
Jason.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: LTT Leathercare on February 04, 2008, 08:30:28 am
Andy has asked me to let you know that he has not received an email regarding the CCDO

Cheers
Judy
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Straker Cleaning on February 04, 2008, 01:34:16 pm
No details as yet ............ chris@strakercleaning.co.uk   ;D
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on February 04, 2008, 05:03:59 pm
Chris, you don't need this one mate.

Pete
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: stevegunn on February 04, 2008, 05:37:24 pm
Jason's trying to pair me up in a twin room with Gunny and after what a little bird told me about a certain stay over in Cornwall I think I'll give the whole event a wide birth. :-X

Lets just put the record straight yes I was sick,it was black because of bleeding inside through my hiatus hernia at hospital on Thursday as they are talking about operating but it has complications and lots of side effects.

Just have to drink less and not snakebite :'( 
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on February 04, 2008, 05:56:44 pm
Just getting you back for the "ten pint girlie" jibe Steve

Snakebites are evil.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: venom on February 04, 2008, 07:09:28 pm
not got email could you resend please thanks dave

dave@machins41.wanadoo.co.uk

 :)
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on February 04, 2008, 07:14:11 pm
Email sent ;)
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Mike Osbourne on February 07, 2008, 09:10:59 pm
Jason

Still haven't got mine but I think it's something with BT Broadband as some other emails just don't seem to be getting through. Probably MI5 intercepting again.

Do I need to do something right now, like book a room or something?

Mike
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: Jason Hedges on February 07, 2008, 10:12:36 pm
Hi Mike,

I've re sent the email and to the new one you provided.

Hopefully one has come through. Check your spam boxes as well.

Let me know if you've got it.

All the best,
Jason.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: *paul_moss on February 08, 2008, 07:49:38 pm
Jason I dont know what numbers are now, but think you are near the 50 mark.
I think that 50 is about the right amount for this type of day.
Title: Re: CCDO - DATE & VENUE SET!
Post by: lands on February 08, 2008, 08:41:59 pm
Think there may be several places left so if anyone wants one get in quick.