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Title: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: jeff1 on January 22, 2008, 06:59:39 pm
Since I went wfp i have noticed windows are much cleaner, I normally do my shops Trad but yesterday I got there and I broke my bucket, I went into all the shops and told them i was going to do them with wfp, every one was fine and didn't really seem to care how I did them, by the time I did my last shop I noticed the windows of my first shop windows were gleaming and I was chuffed to bits, so there wfp from now on.

There is a house next door to the shops that I do on a monthly cycle due to it being on a main road, this is always done wfp, yesterday I notice it seemed more dirty than normal but my shop windows weren't so bad.

I then went on to my domestics and often do a roof of a well kept wooden conservatory, I also noticed the timber struts of the roof were all green with algae, now this house I have had for 8 years and used to do this roof with a pole and applicator when I was trad, I have never seen the roof struts looking green when i was Trad, but since changing to wfp these wooden struts are now going green during the winter months.

We all know the windows stay cleaner longer but if the windows do get dirty before the next clean are they more dirtier than they used to be?
And has anyone noticed if the wooden frame type go green with algae due to pure water being used.
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Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 22, 2008, 07:02:31 pm
I think the fact that no film of soap is left makes all the difference, it stops the window getting dirty as easy, and yes they do look cleaner with wfp, no doubt about it, Luke
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: frames to panes on January 22, 2008, 07:03:03 pm
Jeff have you not noticed it hasn't stopped raining for weeks? Patios are covered in slime and are as slippery as hell.
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: jeff1 on January 22, 2008, 07:11:41 pm
Jeff have you not noticed it hasn't stopped raining for weeks? Patios are covered in slime and are as slippery as hell.
Never noticed the rain, has it been raining then  ;D ;D
its the timber roof type of conservatory that I'm on about the upvc type I did next door was fine, no a spot of algae and I do both roofs on the same day each time.

Luke, I know why the windows stay cleaner longer, i was asking if you or anyone had noticed if you leave them until they do get dirty are they any dirtier than they would be normaly if you did them using Trad methods.
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: frames to panes on January 22, 2008, 07:28:43 pm
Err i would imagine the wood might be getting sodden and be holding the moisture enabling algae to grow? :)
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: Londoner on January 22, 2008, 07:38:58 pm
I have a good customer in a big gated house in Chorleywood ( mega posh area) since I went WFP she has gone back from 8 weeks to 12 weeks. Now she wants to go to 16 weeks. I am going with it because she is still a good customer but her arguement is the windows are still clean and don't need doing again.
I have to say she has a point.
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: NWH on January 22, 2008, 07:41:48 pm
It`s supposed to be a mantainence thing,therefore they always look clean.
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: jeff1 on January 22, 2008, 08:09:56 pm
Err i would imagine the wood might be getting sodden and be holding the moisture enabling algae to grow? :)
Now that I would have said was the answer, but this is highly maintaind property and painted on a regular basis, so I don't think thats the answer. but your answering along the right lines, maybe I haven't explained my self properly? and I'm getting the wrong replies back. :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: Village Gleam on January 22, 2008, 08:11:27 pm
I've noticed green on some of my upvc joints. Sometimes bird soil is more impacted because it's been left longer.

As you know i'm hot because I keep going on about it, well a lot of dirt or greyness comes off the sills because of this, so they come cleaner, but I have noticed green growth comes very quickly in any crevasses.

Normaly shaded areas get algea, and lit areas don't. It's the opposite form of life on earth to photo synthesis, but pure water seems to accelerate it's growth.It might be that one of the few benefits of any soap residue is it inhibites such growth?
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: windowwashers on January 22, 2008, 08:13:16 pm
I think if they do get dirty by next clean they seem to be alot dirtier, most house are mostly clean but some I am  :o at.
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: dave0123 on January 22, 2008, 08:13:16 pm
I just start properly today WFP on customers houses and do a shop i do twice per week!! came up great!!!

really inpressed with the resuts so far
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: jeff1 on January 22, 2008, 08:29:39 pm
Now were starting to get the answers I'm looking for, thenk you Guy's.

I just start properly today WFP on customers houses and do a shop i do twice per week!! came up great!!!

really inpressed with the resuts so far
Well done Dave give it a few weeks and you will find your Job getting easier and easier, don't take no notice of this post as its not a problem, just something I have noticed over several months, and I'm just asking if anyone else has noticed.
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: Village Gleam on January 22, 2008, 08:30:28 pm
Sorry to go off topic, sort of, but is this a figment of my Imagination? I've just been on the training academy forum and some woman keeps talking to me. What does she want?
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: windowwashers on January 22, 2008, 08:31:27 pm
Sorry to go off topic, sort of, but is this a figment of my Imagination? I've just been on the training academy forum and some woman keeps talking to me. What does she want?
your web cam on I guess  ;)
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: dave0123 on January 22, 2008, 08:42:19 pm
Thanks Jeff! ;)
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: jeff1 on January 22, 2008, 08:45:48 pm
Sorry to go off topic, sort of, but is this a figment of my Imagination? I've just been on the training academy forum and some woman keeps talking to me. What does she want?

Don't know I'll have a look, Your not going MAD are you  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: jeff1 on January 22, 2008, 08:54:50 pm
Sorry to go off topic, sort of, but is this a figment of my Imagination? I've just been on the training academy forum and some woman keeps talking to me. What does she want?

Just as I thought, its official your going crazy (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/rollfunny.gif)(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/scardey.gif)
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: billozz on January 22, 2008, 08:57:47 pm
i would say that i have noticed a green residue in the joints on the pvc windows too and i think it probably is down to wfp, i dont remeber it being there when i was trad
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: Village Gleam on January 22, 2008, 09:01:49 pm
Do you know Billozz you are the first person who has agreed with anything I've said on this forum in about three months. So thanks for that.
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: Dean Aspects on January 22, 2008, 09:01:53 pm
It maybe has always been there the reason you are all noticing it now is that everywhere else is much cleaner and any dirt now stands out
or possibly not just mindless rambling

Dean
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: Village Gleam on January 22, 2008, 09:28:17 pm
Amazingly I was able to get into that site, but I can't get back to the academy. It's some sort of parking domain.
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 22, 2008, 09:28:35 pm
Do you know Billozz you are the first person who has agreed with anything I've said on this forum in about three months. So thanks for that.

I bet it's you logging in under another name really   ;D
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on January 22, 2008, 09:29:24 pm
It maybe has always been there the reason you are all noticing it now is that everywhere else is much cleaner and any dirt now stands out
or possibly not just mindless rambling

Dean
Do you know Billozz you are the first person who has agreed with anything I've said on this forum in about three months. So thanks for that.
despite the fact that i dont really want to agree with some one who says that "you have to spend 12k to do wfp properly"  ;D ;D ;D you may have a point. Just before xmas one of my more ,shall we say difficult, customers said that he thought that wfp "encouraged moss" on the sills on north side of house.I put this down to him being a bit of a moany nob but today i did three houses with north facing rears all have a cons at back and all very green dont remember them getting like this when trad ??? also i find that boots that used to stay dry all day when trad dont with wfp and the leather seems to really take a hammering (splits cracks etc)
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 22, 2008, 09:33:29 pm
Green definitely re-appears sooner using WFP.  I'm in no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: Village Gleam on January 22, 2008, 09:35:07 pm
I'm on a roll. Ask me anything
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: Wayne Thomas on January 22, 2008, 09:36:58 pm
Green definitely re-appears sooner using WFP.  I'm in no doubt about that.

especially in the bottom corners of the window frames. Notice it more on lengthy cleans.
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on January 22, 2008, 09:44:17 pm
I'm on a roll. Ask me anything
how much did your system cost ;) ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: brett walker on January 22, 2008, 10:56:21 pm
i would say that i have noticed a green residue in the joints on the pvc windows too and i think it probably is down to wfp, i dont remeber it being there when i was trad

I would definately agree ive also noticed this since going wfp

i know 1 window cleaner that lost a customer through this

windows do stay cleaner longer with wfp but i never tell the customers this ive told them they dont get dirty as quick ;)

Brett
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: dudek on January 23, 2008, 05:06:30 pm
I also noticed the algae lately didnt think it would be widespread though.
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: Village Gleam on January 23, 2008, 08:55:51 pm
I'm on a roll. Ask me anything
how much did your system cost ;) ;) ;D ;D
Nothing it's paid for itself many times over!
My system is 300gpd to di to 1000l IBC to 3yrold Scudo 400l tank to variflow/100psi pump to LPG on demand heater to 100m minibore reel to 17'xtel with a vikan flocked fan jet. And It's brilliant.

I bought the bits at cleantech and Gardiners. I have two of everything, reels, variflows and heaters. Gas Heaters can be changed in fifteen minutes and cost £250.

When I made the comment 12k to do it properly I meant marketing, signwriting,roof rack,etc.

My current project is motorising the reel.
Title: Re: Is this a figment of my imagination?
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on January 23, 2008, 09:32:35 pm
after all the crap flying around re poo2 i should really be diplomatic so...... i just thought that the 12k comment implied that us cheapskate diy boys were wasting our time.....however this is a text based medium and it is sometimes difficult to fully grasp the subtleties of conversation in that format.Basically if we had been sat round a table in the pub it probably would have not bothered me at all so perhaps i should just calm down and not take peoples comments at face value :)for the record my set up is cobbled together from various sources and cost less than 3k including the van (10yr old scudo!!!)