Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dave0123 on January 20, 2008, 10:48:46 pm
-
Finally got everything setup for my system and running.. itching 2get out there
i have a 300gpd feeding into a 11ltr di vessel going into my IBC! i use a trolley one from scrim shady! looks great... about 2 go out cleaning my windows tommrow first ever time using WFP so will let you all know how i get on :P
Question is i no i need 2 increase the flow of the varistream for first cleans but after ur second or third cleans what do you guys have the dail set at?
going to practise few cleans on my own house then i have a windows and frame job to do either tuesday or wednesday! slightly nervous but looking forward to using it.. :-X
Thanks Dave
-
10.30 on everything,maybe 11.00 on first cleans.You don`t need loads and loads of water on first cleans you just need to take your time and do them thoroughly.
-
I use my varistream on 1.30 all the time, about 2 on first cleans. Why waste a lot of time scrubbing when the water will do the work for you. I also use fine jets about 1.5mm so it blasts any stubborn dirt away better
-
i use mine at 12 oclock but if you are using a trolley (and scrims does look good) you will automatically find your own best setting per job because you will find you are running out of water sometimes.
A good bit of advice is to make sure you start at the furthest point away from your van and work towards it.
Also, if you are using a van get a reel of microbore, a water tank and submersible pump when you can as it will be quicker than faffing around with half empty barrels and you will have a van mount as well.
Another way to make your job easier and much quicker is to buy extra long pole hose. eg, 17ft xtel buy 45ft of pole hose. You can wrap the excess around the handle when not needed and you will be able to park the trolley in 1 or 2 places only and reach all the windows of the house. The pole hose that comes as standard will mean you will have to move the trolley every couple of windows. A right pain and time consuming.
Good luck with it.
-
oh yeah, i used to have the setting at 10 - 11 oclock like nwh and still do when water is tight, but i now prefer a much higher flow rate when i know i have enough water to get through the day.
-
Thanks for the replies lads.
Just been cleaning my windows the windows dont sheet so i thought the were going to come out terible but there quid good! few spots here and there but for the first timer really impressed. had the dial set about 12 o clock
how do you get rid of air locks? in the pump i thought i had one before water was just dripping out but seem to sort its self out.
what is the correct way to remove an air lock so i no for future! dont want to set up then find no water comes out and look like an idiot lmao.
Dave
-
For airlocks, I simply disconnect the pole hose then run the pump at full power until the bubbles stop and the tone of the pump changes, then reconnect the hose. I turn my varistream to about 11o'clock on maintenance cleans and 12 for first cleans. Saves a bit of water that way ;)
I also found that using a flocked brush on beading windows gives a better clean / rinse....
-
I haven't got a trolley, but I've had airlocks. I have a double male hoselock that I connect and suck. This will beat any airlock, but probably all you need to do is raise your water above your pump? (I can't do that with a 400l tank).
-
The water is above the pump,
What i ended up doing is disconcting my pole then i run the pump for a little sec or 2 like sanity said. just its a hozelock connector that i connect my hose to just thought that mite damage the pump.
Dave
-
Yes il sort one out in abit!
what actully do you want to see? jus the trolley its self
-
lol jus took one will sort pics out now.
i dont no how u post a pic gna figure that out now ;)
-
Heres my trolley, pictures arent too great sorry will take another one.
-
Also, here is a pic of my RO and DI setup in a box i made had jus finished it here with some instulation
-
there ye go easy clean,
To upload pics click on additional options and attatch pic.
Dave
-
i have mine about 12 o'clock, never really adjust it unless i am cleaning really bad frames.
-
cheers richard,
I had it set to about 12 today seemed to do the job!!
Trolley is great ;D
-
glad everythings ok,
when i get a air lock in my trolley i open the valve on the pole, turn the varistream up a bit and wait for it to start flowing, it will start pretty quick,
-
Ok thanks,
havent got a valve on my pole yet going to ge one this week tho. You mean a pole valve to control flow at the pole?
Yer everythings ok:)
-
yes
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Flow_Control_Valves.html
i have one of these valves in the hose on the pole so i can shut the water off, it makes life easier
-
I like your RO/DI box Dave, have to knock something up like that myself ;D
-
thanks..
Il get one of these i was going to buy one anyway this week ;)
-
cheers john!
didnt take that long. its all sealed up too the joints. then when i close the door it squeezes tight against the insulation and wound up with wing nut like the ladder clamps to hold it ;)
-
Doesnt adding a flow-controller affect the life of the pump? (according to Freedoms website anyway)
Matt
-
i had my trolley from scrimshady its been great ;)
ive got a 250l tank in the van so i can connect the trolley up the the tank and use it as a van mount ;D
i take out 3 25l barrels aswell but dont really use them.
ive got the auto brush so you dont need a flow control valve :)
saves loads of time and water
-
i have had the same pump for 2 1/2 years and i have always had that valve, thats a new one to me ???
-
isn that wat a varistream does? if you open a valve a little the varistream takes control of the pump? same as if you disconect your hose without turning the pump off if your say 10 meteres away
dave
-
i have had the same pump for 2 1/2 years and i have always had that valve, thats a new one to me ???
The Flowmaster has many benefits. You can set your flow accurately and still maintain pressure at the brush. This is essential to ensuring a thorough rinse of the window. By using a flow on/off regulator at or near the pole you save water and battery power because the Flowmaster will sense the stopping of flow and stop the pump. By being able to stop the flow when you want to you will be able to move from window to window without spraying water where you don’t want it to go.
It is critical that when fitting a pump to a window cleaning system that certain factors are taken into account to ensure years of trouble free performance from the pump.
The most common problem with window cleaning pumps is that the user puts excessive demands on the internal pressure switch during use, causing the pump to repeatedly switch on and off (known as “cycling on the switch”) during the window cleaning process. This will rapidly cause wear and the pressure switch will fail prematurely. Care must be taken with any window cleaning system that “cycling” does not occur.
By far the most common cause of excessive pressure on the switch is the use of a restriction valve on the window cleaning system-these are commonly fitted to allow the user to regulate the output of water from the pole. Most window cleaners wish to restrict the amount of water flow therefore they are at risk of very early pump failure because as they restrict the flow the increase in pressure can cause the pump to cycle at up to 100 times per minute.
So by fitting the Flowmaster to the Freedom Trolley System we are ensuring that you work efficiently and own a system that will give you many years of satisfactory service.
-
sorry i thought you was on about something else matty, if you use the valve to regulate the flow without a pump controller it will blow the pressure switch but i use varistreams and ony use the valve to turn the watre on or off never use it to control the pump
-
Okie Shmokie, glad thats clarified, as Im expecting my Freedom trolley this week and just trying to organise my head about it all ;D