Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: AuRavelling79 on January 16, 2008, 06:17:24 pm
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On another thread Roy Harding (Oh great one to be envied ;)) said he built his round by keeping the wheat and discarding the chaff.
What are the best ways of doing this?
Do you drop and recruit actively? I should but I tend to take the opportunity when it arises - someone asks, I price a bit higher - marginal customer irritates, I drop them.
I have thought about going around all my marginal poor value customers on a belting rainy day so that they say not today thanks and I can drop them! ;D
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Malc
We sarted off with a high percentage of market dictated prices that were never going to make a business succesful and ran volume for 6 years/
Last year we reviewed our full pricing policy on every single customer and increased them to what we wanted to earn - some went up by £5.00 (on top of the price they were paying).
We lost about 25 customers through this period but as a whole we picked up about 100 new customers last year - with no marketing or attempt to gain new customers.
Now I am introducing VAT on the residential workload and am expecting to lose about 150 customers - as the worst case scenario.
If I lose 150 customers we will have a more sustainable round with less overheads and all of my business interests are back under one name and sole ownership. I was giving the round to my wife.
Be ruthless and accept that if you don't increase they wont offer more money!!!!!
Rob ;D
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Malc
We sarted off with a high percentage of market dictated prices that were never going to make a business succesful and ran volume for 6 years/
Last year we reviewed our full pricing policy on every single customer and increased them to what we wanted to earn - some went up by £5.00 (on top of the price they were paying).
We lost about 25 customers through this period but as a whole we picked up about 100 new customers last year - with no marketing or attempt to gain new customers.
Now I am introducing VAT on the residential workload and am expecting to lose about 150 customers - as the worst case scenario.
If I lose 150 customers we will have a more sustainable round with less overheads and all of my business interests are back under one name and sole ownership. I was giving the round to my wife.
Be ruthless and accept that if you don't increase they wont offer more money!!!!!
Rob ;D
Thanks for that, much appreciated! :)
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ive often thought of getting rid of the " chaff"
BUT
as my round has been built up for more than 20 years ( im the 3rd window cleaner to take on the round ) its VERY compact, on most of my round i do 90% of the houses in that road, thus i dont move the van once all day ( and time spent in the van is time not earning )
i guess my best bet is to increase the price of the chaff till they are wheat ( its not far off to be honest )
then again, im happy with what i earn and i do, so why risk what i have
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I have found that my early customers (the ones I underpriced just to get the work) are the onses that have dropped by the waysid3e. EVERY customer who has called me from a leaflet drop has continued to be a customer.
Anyone that asks me to miss them this time gets dropped. Any messers as far as payment goes get dropped.
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I have found that my early customers (the ones I underpriced just to get the work) are the onses that have dropped by the waysid3e. EVERY customer who has called me from a leaflet drop has continued to be a customer.
Anyone that asks me to miss them this time gets dropped. Any messers as far as payment goes get dropped.
i love to do this but i have not got as half the customers i want to get
im about half full 180 and i like to get that again this year as wel.but i do do a little droping but not as much as i like next year 2009 they better look out.prices going up the lot
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I have not door knocked or canvassed for many a year, I have let the work come to me. I then price at a £1 per minute. And from time to time look what jobs are the worst paying and speak to the customer and inform them of the new price, but fully understand if they don’t want to continue. After 24yrs I’m now up to 135 jobs on average per 4wks. Have not one job on an estate or terraced houses or any 3 bed roomed house, mine are one off rural properties, with a five or ten minute drive between.
Roy
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Roy your work sounds just like mine,that`s the way to do it.
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Have not one job on an estate or terraced houses or any 3 bed roomed house, mine are one off rural properties, with a five or ten minute drive between.
Thats the way my work is now heading... I have more large detached houses now than I do semis... The only semis I have now are all near each other at £15 - £20 a pop. They earn me good money so there is not much point dropping them.
Andy
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On another thread Roy Harding (Oh great one to be envied ;)) said he built his round by keeping the wheat and discarding the chaff.
What are the best ways of doing this?
Do you drop and recruit actively? I should but I tend to take the opportunity when it arises - someone asks, I price a bit higher - marginal customer irritates, I drop them.
I have thought about going around all my marginal poor value customers on a belting rainy day so that they say not today thanks and I can drop them! ;D
Joking aside, on a day like this, I'm more likely to clean windows at places I'm less bothered about losing. Either that or target the ones who are more likely to be out.
Bit naughty but a guy's got to pay the bills somehow.
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Have not one job on an estate or terraced houses or any 3 bed roomed house, mine are one off rural properties, with a five or ten minute drive between.
Thats the way my work is now heading... I have more large detached houses now than I do semis... The only semis I have now are all near each other at £15 - £20 a pop. They earn me good money so there is not much point dropping them.
Andy
that is one of 2008 targets, I am employing a full time canvasser to do this.
not intersted in quantity anymore I what quality.
Ian
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Have not one job on an estate or terraced houses or any 3 bed roomed house, mine are one off rural properties, with a five or ten minute drive between.
Thats the way my work is now heading... I have more large detached houses now than I do semis... The only semis I have now are all near each other at £15 - £20 a pop. They earn me good money so there is not much point dropping them.
Andy
that is one of 2008 targets, I am employing a full time canvasser to do this.
not intersted in quantity anymore I what quality.
Ian
My god Ian you`ve finally woken up and smelt the coffee lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Have not one job on an estate or terraced houses or any 3 bed roomed house, mine are one off rural properties, with a five or ten minute drive between.
Thats the way my work is now heading... I have more large detached houses now than I do semis... The only semis I have now are all near each other at £15 - £20 a pop. They earn me good money so there is not much point dropping them.
Andy
that is one of 2008 targets, I am employing a full time canvasser to do this.
not intersted in quantity anymore I what quality.
Ian
My god Ian you`ve finally woken up and smelt the coffee lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::) ::)
have with wfp ;)
did very well trad, but things change ;)
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ive often thought of getting rid of the " chaff"
BUT
as my round has been built up for more than 20 years ( im the 3rd window cleaner to take on the round ) its VERY compact, on most of my round i do 90% of the houses in that road, thus i dont move the van once all day ( and time spent in the van is time not earning )
i guess my best bet is to increase the price of the chaff till they are wheat ( its not far off to be honest )
then again, im happy with what i earn and i do, so why risk what i have
I see where you're coming from and it sounds like your round is a lot more compact than mine - though I do have patches of decent, compact work. To be honest, I prefer to have my work more scattered and to charge higher for it rather than compact but lower priced. This achieves several things
1) I can earn as much on a scattered round as I could on a lower priced compact round. This sort of means that I'm being paid for short driving hops instead of cleaning windows - a good opportunity to take a little rest.
2) In a compact round there is often one awkward customer who detracts a little from profitability. OK, so they can be dropped but it can get tricky bumping into them month after month. In one way it's good because it forces me to be assertive and tell them why I will no longer clean their windows rather than just not going back. But it can be a PITA if they are the sort of person who won't accept the decision and keep pestering. Even more awkward if they are very friendly with their neighbours and there is a risk of them leaving.
One thing I've learned over the years is not to give a reduced rate because there is plenty of other work in the road. I price as if each job is on its own because one day, it might be. I have had this happen before if people move away, die, cancel etc.
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Ian when you do 8 or 10 houses on a busy day and in most cases 3-4 on average to earn your money your on your way to Elderado. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)Quality not quantity you got that spot on brother.
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I'm only 60% full, and half of that is chaff.>:(
Trouble is, I rarely get any new work, so I can't drop them
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I'm only 60% full, and half of that is chaff.>:(
Trouble is, I rarely get any new work, so I can't drop them
Then you are doing something wrong m8, very wrong
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I have a customer that badly needs a price increase but she has resisted in the past. My wife told her today that she was going up £2 for the new year, take it or leave it.
She's going to have to think about it.
Don't take too long.
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I have a customer that badly needs a price increase but she has resisted in the past. My wife told her today that she was going up £2 for the new year, take it or leave it.
She's going to have to think about it.
Don't take too long.
I had that aswell and still do they either take it or leave it either way i am not worried
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ive often thought of getting rid of the " chaff"
BUT
as my round has been built up for more than 20 years ( im the 3rd window cleaner to take on the round ) its VERY compact, on most of my round i do 90% of the houses in that road, thus i dont move the van once all day ( and time spent in the van is time not earning )
i guess my best bet is to increase the price of the chaff till they are wheat ( its not far off to be honest )
then again, im happy with what i earn and i do, so why risk what i have
I see where you're coming from and it sounds like your round is a lot more compact than mine - though I do have patches of decent, compact work. To be honest, I prefer to have my work more scattered and to charge higher for it rather than compact but lower priced. This achieves several things
1) I can earn as much on a scattered round as I could on a lower priced compact round. This sort of means that I'm being paid for short driving hops instead of cleaning windows - a good opportunity to take a little rest.
2) In a compact round there is often one awkward customer who detracts a little from profitability. OK, so they can be dropped but it can get tricky bumping into them month after month. In one way it's good because it forces me to be assertive and tell them why I will no longer clean their windows rather than just not going back. But it can be a PITA if they are the sort of person who won't accept the decision and keep pestering. Even more awkward if they are very friendly with their neighbours and there is a risk of them leaving.
One thing I've learned over the years is not to give a reduced rate because there is plenty of other work in the road. I price as if each job is on its own because one day, it might be. I have had this happen before if people move away, die, cancel etc.
your right in a way
any new work in the area's i do are now priced a couple of quid more than others, i have 3 houses next to each toehr down a little lane, 1 is 9 quid, 1 is 11 quid and the other is 15 quid, the first 2 i took over from some1, the 3rd i priced and got, the 15 quid has asked me why they pay more, im honest and say " the others are underrpiced and i took them over from the last guy" they are not really underpriced, just not priced at my " i dont need the work price range "
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if any1 moves out, i normally pick it back up as i do all the others
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I'm only 60% full, and half of that is chaff.>:(
Trouble is, I rarely get any new work, so I can't drop them
Then you are doing something wrong m8, very wrong
What am I doing wrong?
A good job?
A reliable service?
A polite service?
Time for the customer?
Reasonable prices?
I'm doing nothing wrong.
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Maybe it's time to go actively canvassing again then? :)
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I'm only 60% full, and half of that is chaff.>:(
Trouble is, I rarely get any new work, so I can't drop them
Then you are doing something wrong m8, very wrong
What am I doing wrong?
A good job?
A reliable service?
A polite service?
Time for the customer?
Reasonable prices?
I'm doing nothing wrong.
I'm only 60% full, and half of that is chaff.
Trouble is, I rarely get any new work, so I can't drop them
this tells me there is something wrong m8, i am not having a dif at you, if you are 60% full offer every customer 50% off there next clean if they recommend you they will find new customer for you. (I would not give that % but then I have loads of work but it does work).
if you only are 60% FULL WHY ARE YOU 2 WEEKS BEHIND? ARE YOU LAZY ?
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To make this a bit more general, and to save picking on the same slackers time and time again one thing I have noticed on this thread, from Roy Harding down is the level of complacency.
And some of the comments tonight... I'm going to increase my customer base by 50%, but no mention of how this is to be achieved.
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Agree with that too ! reading posts like these can make you think you are doing something wrong . You know who are good customers and if they pay on time make you a brew and are 20p underpriced who cares its there custom you value .
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If you can acheive a 50% increase in work in 12 months then you`ve done really well,it is acheivable but it would take hard work.The thing is the new work that you take on has to be as good as existing work or what`s the point,an increase of quality work of 50% would be more difficult to find.
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If they said I have a strategy.eg.
1. I'm designing a brilliant leaflet A5 glossy both sides and 10.000 of the blighters. It will have a picture of me and my van because I have already built a level of brand awareness about myself in the areas I intend to target. It will have example pictures of the sort of work I do, and simple benefit points explaining my uniique selling propostion.
2. I intend to canvass, but I am only targeting certain areas and properties.
But just to make statements is a bit lame.
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I have increased my customer base by 34% this week - I bought a round of the guy who does the other houses in two estates that I work.
He wanted 4x the monthly takings, but I got him down to 2x plus an agreement to pass on any future enquiries to me.
The only problem I have now is getting all the work done as I was just about full anyway, but you can't look a gift horse in the mouth especially as his prices were higher than mine too.
Best be sorting out some chaff to put the prices up by a good amount to either scare them away or make them into wheat!
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if you only are 60% FULL WHY ARE YOU 2 WEEKS BEHIND? ARE YOU LAZY ?
Week and a half off at Christmas and p*ssed down since.
Anyway, I never said I was 2 weeks behind, I said I might be.
I might not be either, who cares as long as there's work to do it doesn't matter how soon I do it.
If I was on time I'd have nothing to do would I?
...and yes I have been lazy lately.
I'm just fed up with this crappy job, and can't find the enthusiasm.
When I do get going in a good mood some customer moaning about wfp soon puts me off again. >:(
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if you only are 60% FULL WHY ARE YOU 2 WEEKS BEHIND? ARE YOU LAZY ?
Week and a half off at Christmas and p*ssed down since.
Anyway, I never said I was 2 weeks behind, I said I might be.
I might not be either, who cares as long as there's work to do it doesn't matter how soon I do it.
If I was on time I'd have nothing to do would I?
...and yes I have been lazy lately.
I'm just fed up with this crappy job, and can't find the enthusiasm.
When I do get going in a good mood some customer moaning about wfp soon puts me off again. >:(
Why not set up in another business altogether? Get out of w/c if I were you.
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if you only are 60% FULL WHY ARE YOU 2 WEEKS BEHIND? ARE YOU LAZY ?
Week and a half off at Christmas and p*ssed down since.
Anyway, I never said I was 2 weeks behind, I said I might be.
I might not be either, who cares as long as there's work to do it doesn't matter how soon I do it.
If I was on time I'd have nothing to do would I?
...and yes I have been lazy lately.
I'm just fed up with this crappy job, and can't find the enthusiasm.
When I do get going in a good mood some customer moaning about wfp soon puts me off again. >:(
rog, dont let them get you down,
you know sooner or later you wil be earning 500 quid a day and home by lunchtime on good days
stick at it ;)
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I can always rely on Matt to make me laugh anyway. ;D
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I think at this time of year the enthusiasm is lacking in most of us its things like this that separate the full time window cleaners from the twobob window cleaners
Dean
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I can always rely on Matt to make me laugh anyway. ;D
ok ok, i over did it, 400 quid ;)
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if you only are 60% FULL WHY ARE YOU 2 WEEKS BEHIND? ARE YOU LAZY ?
Week and a half off at Christmas and p*ssed down since.
Anyway, I never said I was 2 weeks behind, I said I might be.
I might not be either, who cares as long as there's work to do it doesn't matter how soon I do it.
If I was on time I'd have nothing to do would I?
...and yes I have been lazy lately.
I'm just fed up with this crappy job, and can't find the enthusiasm.
When I do get going in a good mood some customer moaning about wfp soon puts me off again. >:(
What about a mixture of wfp & trad squeeks, thats what i do. although mine arn't wfp moaners but propertys where wfp is not suitable or is simply quicker trad, i still don't mind doing trad at all. infact, many of my best paying jobs are trad!
Two tools= more options & may keep everyone happy, just charge more for the trad jobs. set of roofbars on with rear-roller bar & you're away. ;)
Tony
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Squeaky,
I just can't understand why you don't actively go and try to pick up some new work?
I know you say there is none left in your area... But whats wrong with traveling a little bit further to find some better work?
Andy
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ive often thought of getting rid of the " chaff"
BUT
as my round has been built up for more than 20 years ( im the 3rd window cleaner to take on the round ) its VERY compact, on most of my round i do 90% of the houses in that road, thus i dont move the van once all day ( and time spent in the van is time not earning )
i guess my best bet is to increase the price of the chaff till they are wheat ( its not far off to be honest )
then again, im happy with what i earn and i do, so why risk what i have
I see where you're coming from and it sounds like your round is a lot more compact than mine - though I do have patches of decent, compact work. To be honest, I prefer to have my work more scattered and to charge higher for it rather than compact but lower priced. This achieves several things
1) I can earn as much on a scattered round as I could on a lower priced compact round. This sort of means that I'm being paid for short driving hops instead of cleaning windows - a good opportunity to take a little rest.
2) In a compact round there is often one awkward customer who detracts a little from profitability. OK, so they can be dropped but it can get tricky bumping into them month after month. In one way it's good because it forces me to be assertive and tell them why I will no longer clean their windows rather than just not going back. But it can be a PITA if they are the sort of person who won't accept the decision and keep pestering. Even more awkward if they are very friendly with their neighbours and there is a risk of them leaving.
One thing I've learned over the years is not to give a reduced rate because there is plenty of other work in the road. I price as if each job is on its own because one day, it might be. I have had this happen before if people move away, die, cancel etc.
Shiner
You & I think very similar when it comes to work issues. I share a lot of your working practices too apart from I try to concentrate mainly on picking up large blocks of flats under caretaker management and aim for large rural, residential homes as my main priority. I'm happiest driving 5-15 mins between rural places and parked up all day in one spot doing one block after another :)
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When I do get going in a good mood some customer moaning about wfp soon puts me off again. >:(
squeaky, i don't want to teach you how to suck eggs 'cos for all your amusing tales of woe you obviously know what needs to be done. But why don't you drop the customer who gets you down the most and do the next biggest one the next month? And so on.
It won't be that much of a loss financially if you do it gradually 'cos i bet your biggest moaners are the ones that pay the least. Or put the price up a quid or so. A sort of moaning tax if you like and let them drop you if they don't go for it.
Go driving 1/2 an hour away and canvasss some rural areas with bigger houses and don't forget to add on a little premium that will cover the travelling time. Go visiting a few churches and look on the sign who the vicar is and get in touch with him and ask who produces the parish magazine in that area and advertise in there.
You give the impression that you have lost sight of all those little canvassing skills you learnt when you started up on your own.
Try and remember how you picked up your own work originally and do the same thing again out of town.
And don't say ian giles gave you all your work. ;D
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if you only are 60% FULL WHY ARE YOU 2 WEEKS BEHIND? ARE YOU LAZY ?
Week and a half off at Christmas and p*ssed down since.
Anyway, I never said I was 2 weeks behind, I said I might be.
I might not be either, who cares as long as there's work to do it doesn't matter how soon I do it.
If I was on time I'd have nothing to do would I?
...and yes I have been lazy lately.
I'm just fed up with this crappy job, and can't find the enthusiasm.
When I do get going in a good mood some customer moaning about wfp soon puts me off again. >:(
What about a mixture of wfp & trad squeeks, thats what i do. although mine arn't wfp moaners but propertys where wfp is not suitable or is simply quicker trad, i still don't mind doing trad at all. infact, many of my best paying jobs are trad!
Two tools= more options & may keep everyone happy, just charge more for the trad jobs. set of roofbars on with rear-roller bar & you're away. ;)
Tony
That's exactly what I already do Tony!
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When I do get going in a good mood some customer moaning about wfp soon puts me off again. >:(
squeaky, i don't want to teach you how to suck eggs 'cos for all your amusing tales of woe you obviously know what needs to be done. But why don't you drop the customer who gets you down the most and do the next biggest one the next month? And so on.
It won't be that much of a loss financially if you do it gradually 'cos i bet your biggest moaners are the ones that pay the least. Or put the price up a quid or so. A sort of moaning tax if you like and let them drop you if they don't go for it.
Go driving 1/2 an hour away and canvasss some rural areas with bigger houses and don't forget to add on a little premium that will cover the travelling time. Go visiting a few churches and look on the sign who the vicar is and get in touch with him and ask who produces the parish magazine in that area and advertise in there.
You give the impression that you have lost sight of all those little canvassing skills you learnt when you started up on your own.
Try and remember how you picked up your own work originally and do the same thing again out of town.
And don't say ian giles gave you all your work. ;D
Cheers Mark, some good ideas there. ;)
Apart from dropping the ones I don't want.
Can't afford it, all work is extra money.
I'm already in rural areas too, I don't do estates around town.
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if you only are 60% FULL WHY ARE YOU 2 WEEKS BEHIND? ARE YOU LAZY ?
Week and a half off at Christmas and p*ssed down since.
Anyway, I never said I was 2 weeks behind, I said I might be.
I might not be either, who cares as long as there's work to do it doesn't matter how soon I do it.
If I was on time I'd have nothing to do would I?
...and yes I have been lazy lately.
I'm just fed up with this crappy job, and can't find the enthusiasm.
When I do get going in a good mood some customer moaning about wfp soon puts me off again. >:(
Now Squeeks might be a bit of...............no a lot of a Victor Meldrew.
But occasionally he's blunt and honest.
This is about how I feel ::) ::)
I prefer Squeek's honest moaning to MR Solubility's super sonic better than you lot crap ::) ::) He's perfectly right.........but I bet ,if he dare to be honest, he feels the same as Squeeks.............and ME ::)
David
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I travel 45 minutes and more often for 1 job.
Go where the work is..it pays to
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if you only are 60% FULL WHY ARE YOU 2 WEEKS BEHIND? ARE YOU LAZY ?
Week and a half off at Christmas and p*ssed down since.
Anyway, I never said I was 2 weeks behind, I said I might be.
I might not be either, who cares as long as there's work to do it doesn't matter how soon I do it.
If I was on time I'd have nothing to do would I?
...and yes I have been lazy lately.
I'm just fed up with this crappy job, and can't find the enthusiasm.
When I do get going in a good mood some customer moaning about wfp soon puts me off again. >:(
Now Squeeks might be a bit of...............no a lot of a Victor Meldrew.
But occasionally he's blunt and honest.
This is about how I feel ::) ::)
I prefer Squeek's honest moaning to MR Solubility's super sonic better than you lot crap ::) ::) He's perfectly right.........but I bet ,if he dare to be honest, he feels the same as Squeeks.............and ME ::)
David
;D ;D ;D he has made the funniest post of the year though
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Cheers David, I thought you were going to tell me off. :-X
Gotta laugh...saves on crying. ;D
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rog, i went though were you seem, last year, i was really cheesed off with it all
i decided on saving for a holiday AND starting something else when i had a spare day due to rain as my incentive, it worked for me
set yourself a goal of somehing you would like, it might help
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I don't mean this to sound like I am trying to be a smart alec or anything like that but there are two sayings I often use to motivate myself. Neither are original but they are both good at getting me back on track.
they are
"The world is full of windows"
and
"If you knock on enough doors it HAS to work"
I am currently seeking to add about 200 new customers at the right price in the right area with no carry throughs. I also intend to clear out a load of stale customers that basically are a pain.
To that end I have started cavassing and leafletting at the weekends. When the evenings get lighter I can go out then as well.
You have to motivate yourself to get out there. I can find a million reasons to put it off till next week.
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if you only are 60% FULL WHY ARE YOU 2 WEEKS BEHIND? ARE YOU LAZY ?
Week and a half off at Christmas and p*ssed down since.
Anyway, I never said I was 2 weeks behind, I said I might be.
I might not be either, who cares as long as there's work to do it doesn't matter how soon I do it.
If I was on time I'd have nothing to do would I?
...and yes I have been lazy lately.
I'm just fed up with this crappy job, and can't find the enthusiasm.
When I do get going in a good mood some customer moaning about wfp soon puts me off again. >:(
Now Squeeks might be a bit of...............no a lot of a Victor Meldrew.
But occasionally he's blunt and honest.
This is about how I feel ::) ::)
I prefer Squeek's honest moaning to MR Solubility's super sonic better than you lot crap ::) ::) He's perfectly right.........but I bet ,if he dare to be honest, he feels the same as Squeeks.............and ME ::)
David
Excellent post david, add me to that too. to be honest, i'm absolutely peed off at the moment too, this weather is getting me down. piddling about between downpours for 20/30 quid, setting off & having to come straight back, watching my bank balance get closer & closer to zero every day etc.etc. Just come back now, totaly demoralised but this honest post has warmed me up a wee bit. ;)
tony
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Me too - tough times at the moment and very unlikely to pick up more work whilst it's chucking it down, nice to see some honest chat in here for a change. I don't want to hear some twit telling me he can do forty houses in the rain and is mister perfect. Tony if you get short of money I'll give you fifty quid for the Facelift.
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Tony if you get short of money I'll give you fifty quid for the Facelift.
Got so peed off today i swore at it dave :o so it spat pure water at me!
tony
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if you only are 60% FULL WHY ARE YOU 2 WEEKS BEHIND? ARE YOU LAZY ?
Week and a half off at Christmas and p*ssed down since.
Anyway, I never said I was 2 weeks behind, I said I might be.
I might not be either, who cares as long as there's work to do it doesn't matter how soon I do it.
If I was on time I'd have nothing to do would I?
...and yes I have been lazy lately.
I'm just fed up with this crappy job, and can't find the enthusiasm.
When I do get going in a good mood some customer moaning about wfp soon puts me off again. >:(
Now Squeeks might be a bit of...............no a lot of a Victor Meldrew.
But occasionally he's blunt and honest.
This is about how I feel ::) ::)
I prefer Squeek's honest moaning to MR Solubility's super sonic better than you lot crap ::) ::) He's perfectly right.........but I bet ,if he dare to be honest, he feels the same as Squeeks.............and ME ::)
David
lol ur right there boys :D
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I had a horrible few hours too, wet and miserable, my soggy hose caught on everything out there, tied itself in knots and got caught under every gate that slammed shut in the wind. Yesterday was just as bad - got my Superlight jammed. The wife was really impressed when i threw it down on the lounge carpet! I'm sat here now and have just noticed i'm covered in dog sh*t too! >:(
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I had a horrible few hours too, wet and miserable, my soggy hose caught on everything out there, tied itself in knots and got caught under every gate that slammed shut in the wind. Yesterday was just as bad - got my Superlight jammed. The wife was really impressed when i threw it down on the lounge carpet! I'm sat here now and have just noticed i'm covered in dog sh*t too! >:(
It's understandable when honest people sometimes get peed off when they come on here & read about how some work in all conditions, every day, @ 300 quid a day, never get any moans/complaints, how wfp is such a breeze, never get tangled hoses, never get covered in sh*t, work in pitck black, send their emplyee out to deal with the above etc.etc.etc. ;)
tony
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I bought some decent breathable waterproofs from strauss. They are the bees knees, the business, keep me lovely and warm, without sweating and remaining bone dry. I now look forward to working in the rain feeling warm & dry whilst it's pouring down. In the past I would work in the rain until I couldn't get any wetter and then change intp some dry clothes and come home. Now I'm out all day long, beautiful. I thoroughly recommend dryplexx waterproof clothing, better than Gortex anyday :)
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I bought some decent breathable waterproofs from strauss. They are the bees knees, the business, keep me lovely and warm, without sweating and remaining bone dry. I now look forward to working in the rain feeling warm & dry whilst it's pouring down. In the past I would work in the rain until I couldn't get any wetter and then change intp some dry clothes and come home. Now I'm out all day long, beautiful. I thoroughly recommend dryplexx waterproof clothing, better than Gortex anyday :)
wayne do you have a link to these waterproofs ? also what is the cost, I need some new ones.
Ian
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Ian have you heard of Nik wax products,they are by far the best beleive me.
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I had a horrible few hours too, wet and miserable, my soggy hose caught on everything out there, tied itself in knots and got caught under every gate that slammed shut in the wind. Yesterday was just as bad - got my Superlight jammed. The wife was really impressed when i threw it down on the lounge carpet! I'm sat here now and have just noticed i'm covered in dog sh*t too! >:(
It's understandable when honest people sometimes get peed off when they come on here & read about how some work in all conditions, every day, @ 300 quid a day, never get any moans/complaints, how wfp is such a breeze, never get tangled hoses, never get covered in sh*t, work in pitck black, send their emplyee out to deal with the above etc.etc.etc. ;)
tony
yep, i would get peed off if i only earnt 300 quid a day, i would be 200 quid short, thats alot of money over the week :P
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I bought some decent breathable waterproofs from strauss. They are the bees knees, the business, keep me lovely and warm, without sweating and remaining bone dry. I now look forward to working in the rain feeling warm & dry whilst it's pouring down. In the past I would work in the rain until I couldn't get any wetter and then change intp some dry clothes and come home. Now I'm out all day long, beautiful. I thoroughly recommend dryplexx waterproof clothing, better than Gortex anyday :)
wayne do you have a link to these waterproofs ? also what is the cost, I need some new ones.
Ian
Ian
www.strauss-direct.co.uk
just over a ton for jacket and trousers. Jacket can be embroided with up to three lines to promote your business.
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This is what the forum is for; solid advice and solutions for problems we all encounter. Not for calling each other names.