Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: nat on January 14, 2008, 02:54:16 pm
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I've been asked to quote for 225 blocks of flats.
the clean will consist of cleaning inside and out of all communal areas. normally i would hand pick a few to see the variation in size then give them an average price to quote overall.
i would like to know if there would be an easier way that anyone else could think of? does anyone else have any experience at this kind of quoting??
Many Thanks
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The only way to be sure of price is to eyeball each and every one but that may not be practical. If you have a relationship with the client you might be able to give a range type price. ie £120.00 to £210 per block.
If it was me I would try to see them all first as the degree of difficulty might cost you money.
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to eye ball 225 properties over 3 counties just isn't practical. you could be working on the tender for a week to eventually not get them.
that to me isn't practical. i have worked out similar tenders by the method of average cost and it does work well. this tender is for every 2 weeks as well so half of the windows would still be untouched.
most of the main traffic areas would probably only need attention
i wouldn't lose out in the end i don't think. i haven't done yet and the system does work well.
any other suggestions
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Either look at them, guess it or give a price per sq ft
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thanks for your in depth reply Bluez ;)
so far is till think an average cost is more practical.
thanks for the suggestions though ;)
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thanks for your in depth reply Bluez ;)
so far is till think an average cost is more practical.
thanks for the suggestions though ;)
lol ;D ;D
sorry I don't know what else to say to you nat, unless you can offer a bit more information. 225 blocks is very little to go on so my reply was very general.
I do apartment blocks that have as few as 8 apartments and some that have over 100 apartments I would not be able to give an average price under the circumstances as I would either end up wildly under pricing or overpricing.
Maybe someone else will be able to help you :-X
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If you can get around say ten of them and hope that they are the average then you can judge the price by these ten if the rest are easier then you are quids in but if its the other way round :-\
If you realy want the contract and want to price properly then you are going to have to go around them all and take the week to do it or try to come to an arrangement with the owners and price as you do the jobs
the last option is only available though if you are the only one quoting for the job
Dean
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thanks for the replys. my method has been fine before so i think i will stick to it again. it does work. cheers guys
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Can you not find find how many flats are in each apartment block, then work on an average price per flat instead of by the building.
Regards,
Lance
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Can you not find find how many flats are in each apartment block, then work on an average price per flat instead of by the building.
Regards,
Lance
thats how I would price also
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Can you not find find how many flats are in each apartment block, then work on an average price per flat instead of by the building.
Regards,
Lance
good idea lance, you could. and i do have that info. i may look into pricing it that way round. i maybe will compare the to quotes to see what out come i get. cheers
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Totally Bizarre!!
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Totally Bizarre!!
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Totally Bizarre!!
very informative thanks for your insight ::)
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to eye ball 225 properties over 3 counties just isn't practical. you could be working on the tender for a week to eventually not get them.
IMO you need to look at each block in order to give a fully accurate quote!
Yes, it might take a while to do this and you might not get it... That's business!
On the other hand you might get it and then you are safe in the knowledge that you've quoted properly.
Andy
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to eye ball 225 properties over 3 counties just isn't practical. you could be working on the tender for a week to eventually not get them.
IMO you need to look at each block in order to give a fully accurate quote!
Yes, it might take a while to do this and you might not get it... That's business!
On the other hand you might get it and then you are safe in the knowledge that you've quoted properly.
Andy
thanks for the input andy. have you dealt with pricing up something like this before?
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You really do need to go and see them before you give them a quote. Not all will be the same .
You could have problems parking , or getting to some of the windows.
You might even need a cherry picker to reach some of the windows.
Are they all the same amount of floors, and is there the same amount of flats in each block.
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sorry john. i will explain a bit further. they are 2, 3 and 4 floors. i have all these details. as well as flat numbers. they are all communal areas only so should be easier to gauge.
i forgot to say i do have some photographic examples of about 30 of them...probably would of helped if i would of added that bit at the start ;D ;)
sorry folks
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I do the insides of some communal windows ,they have a communal door and its hard trying to get someone to answer the door to let me in .
Just for piece of mind I would go around and have a look at them.
Theres nothing worse that pricing a job to low .
On a normal domestic you could tell them its to low , but if you have put your price in you are stuck at that price.
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Nat
Ask the company that you are quoting for, if the 30 properties that you have photos for are the same as the rest.
If so then you can either quote per block or per window.
Ideally you need to see at least half of them.
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Nat
Is this the big midlands h/a contract, (focus etc.) i looked at the tender form & left it.
We have priced another & they gave information of flats & some pictures.
Gary
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nat you have said it will take a long time to go round and price the properties have you considered how long it will take to clean all these properties , do you have the employees and vehicles to cover this extra work and if you do how can you send your employees out with a list of what they should get through if you havnt viewed them and got a rough estimate of the time each one will take including travelling time between jobs.
in my opinion you must veiw each job or on this size of contract you could lose serious money.
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if its for a private management firm ire not council be wary.
my mate has just got stuffed by one they used him for six months nad terminated the contract. they used his figures in this years service charge bill and got a couple of peanuts earning part timers to do it. so they earn big time from it.
luckily no out goings where wasted. but its so easy to spend out on stuff you need for a big contact only to be stuck still paying for it after they cancel.
a fellow round here went to the wall by doing this. big contract so he bought 3 vans and got 4 staff, a year later he lost the contract and had to pay for all the gear he bought.
mind you if its for a council remember that it could be a nasty job in nasty areas. you may have to clean up some quite horrible stuff each time. price well
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If its the one i think the company has 4 vivaro,s + 8 to 10 bloke s dong it.
Gary
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it does't ring a bell gary besides this is a private management company that i have dealt with numerous times before.
in terms of manpower and equipment we are fully covered to tackle this contract thanks.
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If you have the man power why not get them to go and eyeball the work for you in some of the areas.
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its all sorted now Bluez, thanks for your input ;)