Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jeff1966 on January 13, 2008, 06:43:15 pm
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Going for a demo soon,appriciate feed back from users of the Raptor, CFR, and Powerflight machines.
cheers
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Jeff,
I have the raptor and a cfr,
raptor great heat and psi , cfr no heat, good psi and advantage of not having to refill all the time,
my personal preference the Raptor
Geoff
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See several, if I was 42 instead of 62, I would consider the Prowler...........it's versatile, does'nt need a big van, or a return tank. The CFR is an excellent machine, but you will either love it, or hate it, there are several decent twin vac portables around and a fascinating article was published recently which showed the difference between truckmounts and portables, particularly with vacs in parallel is less than assumed.
Try to get around as many as you possibly can and don't rule out any, you have to find something YOU can operate and manhandle with reasonable ease.
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Why not have a look at Craftex, they have machines at affordable prices John Kelly is an agent for them www.restormate.co.uk you do tend to get more for your money with them but also he sells other brands. Our sponsor has some good prices on Prochem at less than list price.
Shaun
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Geoff,
whih model of CFR do you have that has no heat?
I have the CFR500 which has an inline heater built in. (machine now for sale)
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Jeff don't know where you are in the country but don't rule Ashbys Ninja out, great machine and they will build the spec you want. They might be a bit more expensive than what you are looking at. Ashby's are based in Kent. GOOD LUCK ::) ::)
CHEERS TONY
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Powerfite Perfect Heat, has High Heat, High pressure, High Vac, high build quality, High reliability, good looks.
Now have as prowler--even better but if porty is needed would recomend the Powerflite. :)
Cheers
Fred
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Thank's for your replies,at the moment I've a Extracta Exel,and BX wich I use with a Mini scrubba.Service is great from Extracta for spairs everything made inhouse,noticed on the thread on the raptor that some parts were not in stock and had to ordered in from the US for me this is a big drawback.As anyone had similer problems locating parts for American machines.
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A&M WATFORD ARE SELLING A MACHINE CALLED THE RHINO WHICH IS 500PSI AND LOOKS TO ME THE SAME AS THE POWERFLIGHT
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Mark - what is the link to A&M
Have tried a google search, found A&M Watford but cannot see a Rhino.
Other Rhino's I have seen look nothing like the Powerflite, so intrigued as to which one it is.
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Jeff its my post on the Raptor that i think your talking about.Dont let that put you off its a great machine regaurding the parts hydramaster have everything in stock pumps vacs heaters ect hopefully i will be getting mine sorted this week Darren.
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Joe A&M watford 01923 671 587
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www.aandmcs.co.uk
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Not on website new to show room call for details
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Joe your machine still for sale :o, does it not want to leave home ;)
Jeff most of the top machines have been mentioned and will do a good job, as long as it has a minimum of 2 x 3 stage vacs, psi of at least 300 and has an inline heater, then pick one based on your budget.
The Hydromaster one is a rebadged Kleenrite Edge2 machine which is a top bit of kit and Hydromaster service is very good.
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Hi Paul
It was December 3rd whan I listed the Powerflite CFR 500 Pure Heat on here in the Sell Equipment section - hardly the best time of year to sell, sure you agree.
Its now back on their so maybe with a lot of potential newcomers and others wanting to upgrade it should stimulate interest.
Mind you, it makes a mighty good spare machine! Just the space thats required to keep or I would.
When it sells I will probably invest in a bit of Dry Fusion gear (got the machine) and Solutions Mighty One as a good spotter and booster.
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Joe if you are going to buy a decent spotter then look at the Kleenrite Sphere in that range it is the best on the market, a bit more pricey than the Mighty one but in has a tremendious in line heater.
Jeff The Edge 2 is also on this link below, When I bought one they were aroung £2600 plus the dreaded.
http://www.cleancareint.co.uk/Carpet%20Cleaners.htm
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Paul
Spec seems similar to the Mighty One, not seen a price. Looks nicer then Mighty One though.
but the Mighty One has that advantage of being a booster for the long hose jobs.
OK, not all that frequent but when you need it..... you need it.
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Joe the mighty one does not have a heater. I forgot you have a Scorpion, so yes Mighty one prob a better choice for you.
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Paul
The water capacity in both machines is relatively small, so maybe a heater is'nt that important, would imagine your topping up fairly regualr anyway.
My understanding is the Mighty One is not limited in use as a booster to just the Scorpion, can be linked with other machines in just the same way, so a very versatile.
Dave Washbrook had one for sale November(ish), did make the enquiry with him but just couldnt get the funds together before it was sold - such is life.
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Think he sold it to Shaun, how I think has sold it on again, or visa versa, by the way you can use any machine as a booster.
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I thin he sold it on. I did feel that the 135psi pump was too big for the suction and when I used it on small jobs I would change the nozzles on my tools to smaller ones so as not to leave the carpet/upholstery too wet.
I don't think heat would make too much difference unless there is a smaller pump, if that were the case say 60psi yes it would be a must.
Shaun
PS with a Scorpion you shouldn't need a booster, you can just move it closer to the target.
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Shaun, was it you who bought it off Dave Washbrook, and you sold it on, and that person has sold it on?
Or have I got it wrong?
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I found 100psi ideal for this type of machine.
I had a Sphere and the heat was tremendious, it was an ideal machine for upholstery cleaning as it took up no room and with a 10 ft hose it was idea in a lounge.
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I sold it to Dave then Dave sold it on to ?
Shaun
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Paul it sounds just as I was trying to say, the 135 psi pump was too powerful although I don't think Joe cleans with heat.
Shaun
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I fill the supply tank 2/3 full with very warm tap water which on a warmish day stays ok till a top up (nice having a break for few minutes - getting on you see).
When it gets really cold & machine outside I probably start to use the inline heater that I bought off Spencer with the machine. Its a 2 chamber heater and just one supplies good heat.
I thought the pump on the Mighty One was 100psi, or did they have a bigger one initially?
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ashbys top of the range machine aLL DAY LONG
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While we are talking upgrades etc how does the heat in perfect heat compare to the steam generated by truckmounts or Garys (Pauls) set up
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hi paul here ;) i hav tryed most heaters on portys and none hav come close to the 3000 w v2 heater when used with warm water,it worked better than the heat on the truckmount i used
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After having my demo I've decided to go for the Powerflight perfect heat & Wonderwand plus the CFR 3 "upholstery handtool plus 7.5" stairs handtool,thanks for the advice.On the suject of advice how much is the second hand value of a Extracta excell 5 years old 2300 hrs on the clock,floor wand, 2 hoses,3" hide a hose upholstery tool,and a 6.5" hide a hose stair tool all in very good condition.I've already arranged the sale for £500 just wondering if I've got agood deal.
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How many 3 stage vacs does the Perfect heat have?
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The Power flight as 2 3 stage vacs
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Good choice Jeff1966, in my opinion.
Thats what I bought 2 years ago and loved it although its is now for sale - so if you want to expand and work another machine!
Just upgraded its replacement machine, a Scorpion. Fitted a conversion to take it to 2" hoses and its made a BIG difference in performance for not a lot of money ie new 2" suction hoses.
That means there will be some 1.5" suction hose for sale soon as well.
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Is it not possible to get a BIGGER vac' motor rather than multiplying. I came accross a FOUR vac' machine a couple of days ago.
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I sold it to Dave then Dave sold it on to ?
Shaun
what I so not understand about you Carpet Cleaning Millionaire you buy a secondhand piece of kit try it and then keep selling them on.
I remember a Rotvac that appeared to go round the Country three times.
Are the machines no good.