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Title: Price of fuel
Post by: texas girl on January 10, 2008, 01:08:07 am
We are absolutely disillusioned over here in the US about fuel prices. The highest for regular is $3.50 per gallon in California where everything is higher. Here it is $3.00 per gallon.

I have heard gas is much higher in many countries.  We are just totally spoiled. Everyone complains. I noticed a decline in residential customers for the Christmas holiday this past year for the first time in 27 years.

The only reason I have been able to derive from this is that the price of gas has kept some from traveling; therefore less interest in cleaning windows for out of town guests, etc.

We are beginning to pick up in our new residential customer sector again; Thank God I do a lot of commercial which never changes.

What is the average price of regular unleaded gas over there? We Americans need to be thankful and quit complaining.

 I drive a Ford F150 super Crew truck. 28 gallon gas tank. Bright yellow. 4 wheel drive big V-8 engine. 12-18 miles per gallon.

I Love it. I am 5 feet 2 inches; 105 lbs. I love my big truck. This is Texas after all.  8) I just plan my trips well. I do not drive all over for just one thing.

Cheers,

Texas Girl :-*
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: rhys11 on January 10, 2008, 01:25:24 am
We are absolutely disillusioned over here in the US about fuel prices. The highest for regular is $3.50 per gallon in California where everything is higher. Here it is $3.00 per gallon.

I have heard gas is much higher in many countries.  We are just totally spoiled. Everyone complains. I noticed a decline in residential customers for the Christmas holiday this past year for the first time in 27 years.

The only reason I have been able to derive from this is that the price of gas has kept some from traveling; therefore less interest in cleaning windows for out of town guests, etc.

We are beginning to pick up in our new residential customer sector again; Thank God I do a lot of commercial which never changes.

What is the average price of regular unleaded gas over there? We Americans need to be thankful and quit complaining.

 I drive a Ford F150 super Crew truck. 28 gallon gas tank. Bright yellow. 4 wheel drive big V-8 engine. 12-18 miles per gallon.

I Love it. I am 5 feet 2 inches; 105 lbs. I love my big truck. This is Texas after all.  8) I just plan my trips well. I do not drive all over for just one thing.

Cheers,

Texas Girl :-*

its about $9.40 if you convert it over here .i was in LA last summer so cheep for fuel out there
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: texas girl on January 10, 2008, 01:28:53 am
RH;

Amazing. Talk about good planning to maximize your driving, huh? That is a lot of money for gas; but I guess it is what it is so we adjust and go on. ;D

Got no choice.

 :-*
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Londoner on January 10, 2008, 07:24:37 am
My local Petrol Station is 111.9p per litre for diesel at the moment. If I drive about four miles I can get it for 107.9p. I don't know whether its worth the effort or not.

I know taxi drivers who spend £200 a week on fuel.
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Tim Rose on January 10, 2008, 08:51:34 am
It's not as if the money goes to the oil producers - we all know it's largely tax, the same on alcohol and ciggarettes, and the money is spent on sending the army to kill people.
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Sir Squeaky on January 10, 2008, 09:01:03 am
Hey Debbie, about time you updated the window cleaning calendar isn't it...?

We can't afford nice pictures of ladies over here because we spend all our money on fuel. ;D
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Pole2pole on January 10, 2008, 09:03:55 am
It's not as if the money goes to the oil producers - we all know it's largely tax, the same on alcohol and ciggarettes, and the money is spent on sending the army to kill people.
And the other half is spent on supporting the layabouts  >:(
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: RO-Sheen on January 10, 2008, 09:18:52 am
I filled up my Renault Trafic yesterday and it was just over £90! I nearly cried!!!

 What annoys me is the Chancellor (sorry - I cant say his name as it makes me sound like Im fond of him!!) claims the reason it is so high is because of the price of a barrel of oil! I went home to Ireland over Xmas and fuel was much cheaper. Surely Ireland are sold oil at the same price as the UK, so how come Eire can sell it onto the motorists cheaper??? simple, because poo load of tax isn't added on!
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Tim Rose on January 10, 2008, 09:33:53 am
I keep records of fuel used, and I only put in £20 at a time.... you should watch the litres I get fall month on month!

It won't be many years before I have to put £30... this is still only half a tank.

Still, I expect we're all helping to save the environment, eh?
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 10, 2008, 09:37:18 am
I filled up my Renault Trafic yesterday and it was just over £90! I nearly cried!!!

 What annoys me is the Chancellor (sorry - I cant say his name as it makes me sound like Im fond of him!!) claims the reason it is so high is because of the price of a barrel of oil! I went home to Ireland over Xmas and fuel was much cheaper. Surely Ireland are sold oil at the same price as the UK, so how come Eire can sell it onto the motorists cheaper??? simple, because poo load of tax isn't added on!

Wow !!  You must run your tank right down to the line.  My guage has been showing near empty before but I've never spent more than £75 on a fill up.  Sounds like those guages must allow a fair bit of margin for error which is comforting.  I think the tanks hold 90 litres so it sounds like you probably put in about 85.
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Count Phil on January 10, 2008, 09:40:43 am
My local is £108.9.  Per litre

3.8 litres in a US gallon £413.82 a gallon

4.5 litres in a UK gallon = £4.90 a gallon.
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Tim Rose on January 10, 2008, 09:41:21 am
Why fill up every time?  Just put in enough for a week or so.  No point hauling fuel around
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Sir Squeaky on January 10, 2008, 09:54:54 am
Why fill up every time?  Just put in enough for a week or so.  No point hauling fuel around
I agree.
I always put £20 in.

If I put £90 in I'd have a crash the next day and waste it all. ;D
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 10, 2008, 10:04:15 am
Why fill up every time?  Just put in enough for a week or so.  No point hauling fuel around
I agree.
I always put £20 in.

If I put £90 in I'd have a crash the next day and waste it all. ;D

A few years ago, I had such an old banger of a car that it was nearly ready for the scrapheap.  I just used to put about £15 in each time (probably the equivalent of £20 today) in case something else went wrong with it and it needed scrapping.  It was such a piece of rubbish that the tyres were worth more than the car so it wasn't worth any more patching up.
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: alan andrewswestsi on January 10, 2008, 12:43:32 pm
get yourself a bookers cash and carry card and buy there drums of vegetable oil works out just over 50 pence a litre , fill up 80% veg oil and 20 % diesel massive saving van runs a treat
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 10, 2008, 01:11:46 pm
Wages here are much better than in America in general but food/fuel etc etc is cheaper over there. Its swings and roundabouts. I myself wouldnt want to live in the USA. No National Health......the worlds highest rate of homicides. I owe the NHS my life, I can walk and have good teeth because of them, the only reason I can work now is because of the NHS. The gap between poor and rich in America is vast, and in this country is is becoming increasingly bigger. The rate of homelessness in America is huge. But we can pass our driving test at 17 here and drive at 70mph on the motorway!! :) Both USA and UK are in the top 4 richest economies in the world. Anyway Texas girl, I really want to go to America in the future and I'm planning on visiting Texas and NY, so could you recommend me somewhere nice to visit in Texas? Thanks, Luke
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 10, 2008, 01:44:04 pm
Ok, so I'll do all the maths, first I'll find out how much 1 gallon US gallon is compared to a UK gallon:

1 gallon [US, liquid] = 0.832 674 184 629 gallon [UK]

UK gallons to liters:

0.832 674 184 629 gallon [UK] = 3.785 411 784 liter

so 1 US gallon is 3.78 liters

Average price of fuel in my postcode area per liter:

Unleaded 107.0p   Diesel 111.6p

so for 1 US gallon I would pay over here in my diesel van:

£4.21

So £4.21 converted into $$$ is:

$8.23

So we pay:

$8.23 per US gallon for our diesel vehicles compared to your $3 per US gallon

I hope you know realise how expensive it is here for fuel compared to the US. But most of us use Vans with Diesel engines here for our work. My van is a 2.0ltr HDI and is very quck even with a tonne onboard and will do 40 miles per UK gallon. And I hope my maths were right, because if there not I'm going to get alot of stick!!! Luke
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Count Phil on January 10, 2008, 02:10:09 pm
Alan andrewswetsi watsit. If you make stuff like that about yourself, you will end up fined big time. No joke. If you don't pay your fuel tax, they come down hard on you.
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Tim Rose on January 10, 2008, 02:22:30 pm
He means for off-road use only I think.
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 10, 2008, 02:28:03 pm
I think you'll find it is perfectly legal:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7047128.stm

"Since the law changed in July( 2007 ), it is now legal to make up to 2,500 litres of your own biodiesel, enough to run the average family car, without having to pay tax."
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 10, 2008, 02:35:45 pm
Ok, so I'll do all the maths, first I'll find out how much 1 gallon US gallon is compared to a UK gallon:

1 gallon [US, liquid] = 0.832 674 184 629 gallon [UK]

UK gallons to liters:

0.832 674 184 629 gallon [UK] = 3.785 411 784 liter

so 1 US gallon is 3.78 liters

Average price of fuel in my postcode area per liter:

Unleaded 107.0p   Diesel 111.6p

so for 1 US gallon I would pay over here in my diesel van:

£4.21

So £4.21 converted into $$$ is:

$8.23

So we pay:

$8.23 per US gallon for our diesel vehicles compared to your $3 per US gallon

I hope you know realise how expensive it is here for fuel compared to the US. But most of us use Vans with Diesel engines here for our work. My van is a 2.0ltr HDI and is very quck even with a tonne onboard and will do 40 miles per UK gallon. And I hope my maths were right, because if there not I'm going to get alot of stick!!! Luke
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 10, 2008, 03:16:10 pm
Ok, so I'll do all the maths, first I'll find out how much 1 gallon US gallon is compared to a UK gallon:

1 gallon [US, liquid] = 0.832 674 184 629 gallon [UK]

UK gallons to liters:

0.832 674 184 629 gallon [UK] = 3.785 411 784 liter

so 1 US gallon is 3.78 liters

Average price of fuel in my postcode area per liter:

Unleaded 107.0p   Diesel 111.6p

so for 1 US gallon I would pay over here in my diesel van:

£4.21

So £4.21 converted into $$$ is:

$8.23

So we pay:

$8.23 per US gallon for our diesel vehicles compared to your $3 per US gallon

I hope you know realise how expensive it is here for fuel compared to the US. But most of us use Vans with Diesel engines here for our work. My van is a 2.0ltr HDI and is very quck even with a tonne onboard and will do 40 miles per UK gallon. And I hope my maths were right, because if there not I'm going to get alot of stick!!! Luke

That post looks familiar.  Wonder where I've seen it before  ;D

Although I'm sure that your maths are probably right Luke, there are other issues that come into play as well.  The comparisons look horrific but it must be realised that both economies have evolved around there relative fuel prices.  If you suddenly transplanted UK diesel costs into the US economy it would be instant disaster and likewise, if the opposite happened, it would be like celebration time for the UK (at first anyway) and we would probably start frying our chips with diesel  :)  .
One slightly hidden advantage that we have in the UK over out American cousins is that higher oil prices don't hit us as hard in many ways.  Because most of the price we pay for diesel is in taxation, an oil price rise is vastly watered down.  However, in the USA which has very low fuel taxes, oil price rises are even more apparent on the forecourts than they are here.  Undoubtedly, this one factor could lead to a sharper economic downturn in the USA than here in the UK.  Another factor is that in the USA longer driving distances are much more part of the culture - not least due to the huge land mass involved.  Bear in mind that if you really set your mind to it, you can drive from one end of the UK to the other in one, very long driving day.  You couldn't hope to do that in many USA states never mind the USA itself (no wonder they have so many internal flights).
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Mo on January 10, 2008, 03:18:58 pm
Why fill up every time? Just put in enough for a week or so. No point hauling fuel around
I agree.
I always put £20 in.
Ido the same I only put £20 in at the time
If I put £90 in I'd have a crash the next day and waste it all. ;D
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 10, 2008, 03:54:45 pm
... Here it is $3.00 per gallon.



What is the average price of regular unleaded gas over there? We Americans need to be thankful and quit complaining.

 I drive a Ford F150 super Crew truck. 28 gallon gas tank. Bright yellow. 4 wheel drive big V-8 engine. 12-18 miles per gallon.
I Love it. I am 5 feet 2 inches; 105 lbs. I love my big truck. This is Texas after all.  8) I just plan my trips well. I do not drive all over for just one thing.

Cheers,

Texas Girl :-*

This is where it balances out Texas Girl - I get 40/45mp(UK)g from my fiat van, so even allowing for your smaller US gallon I get 3 times the miles per gallon than you do.
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Sir Squeaky on January 10, 2008, 04:04:45 pm
I'd still rather have a V8. ;D
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 10, 2008, 05:24:12 pm
I'd still rather have a V8. ;D

And 5ft 2" and 105lbs isn't a bad ratio either! ;D
Title: Re: Price of fuel
Post by: Sir Squeaky on January 10, 2008, 05:31:39 pm
I'd still rather have a V8. ;D

And 5ft 2" and 105lbs isn't a bad ratio either! ;D
Yes, I remember women like that... :'(