Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: *paul_moss on January 07, 2008, 07:20:25 pm
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Many thanks to the guys who came down to day.
Usual good banter.Very Big thanks to Dave Leahona for this time showing use how to retuft and reweave ( this guy is really a star, cheers Dave)
Looking forward to the guys on friday now.
I will attach a couple of pics taken by Mr Olympus him self, Mike Halliday.
From Left to right
Dean Moss ( My son), Me,Dave Washbrook,Paul Ashworth,Tony Gill, Jamie( Fybretech),Geoff( Fybrefresh),
Dave Leahona.
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And Mike Halliday
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We got a really trashed sofa from the charity warehouse.
Pictures of Me dying it and the finished cushion next to the bad on. The one we did was in the worst condition.
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And
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We also found out how Halliday drys his suites in 5 minutes flat ;)
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Paul just looked at the first picture, Why have you got your hand on Dave's genitals
John
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He asked nicely ;)
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Hi Guys
A fine body of men, looks like you had an interesting day.
Maybe us Southern Softies should organise something too ?
Cheers
Doug
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Hi Paul,
Many thanks for Today it was Excellent, Great to actually have a chat to other Carpet cleaners.
Im looking forward to practicing the retuft and reweaving at home in the next few weeks, (Thanks Dave a fantastic demo).
Im sure there will be many occasions in the future when i can put the skills learnt today to good use.
Regards Paul
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yes it was a very informative day and I've decided to take Dave Ls advice and increase my prices. I'm now charging £1 a ft and if any customers argue about it I shall tell them
'I charge £1 a ft..... BECAUSE I'M WORTH IT!!!' :D :D
anyone want any re-tufting doing?
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Re tufting is like matching colour dye, it's easy when you know how the more you do the better you get. I used to do it 20 years ago when I worked for Servicemaster but I'm not sure my eyes are upto it anymore.
Shaun
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Hi
I've only talked to Dave Leahona once, he was offering advice when i wanted to increase my prices by 30%.
He told me to stop messing about & DOUBLE my prices.
Dave
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Hi Dave
Have you increased them and what happened if you did?
Mike
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Hi
I've gone for 50% increase combined with Special Offers so not really such a big increase , but my average job ticket will go up.
Dave
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Well done Paul .......................... nice for someone to put in the effort........................... best stick my name down for next one ;) (as long as course includes night on the town afterwards ............ looks like the ones in picture had to rush off to jobs as BOUNCERS ;) ;D :P )
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Just a quick note to say thanks to Paul for an excellent day, and Lorraine for the excellent food and drink. Also thanks to Dave Leahona for his retufting skills and enthusiasm. Good to meet you all. We should do it again. I'm now going to continue making holes in my carpet so I can retuft!
Jamie
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Well done guys and the best of luck with your new found skills.
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Thanks Paul very good day really interesting and well put over trainning and Lorraine for looking after us.. Thanks also to Dave for the re tuffting that was a great bonus. Good to meet all you guy's.
CHEERS TONY
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A BIG Thanks to Paul for the leather tutorial, It was Very informative and can`t wait to get some old leather to practice on !!!!! Thanks to Dave ( Liahona ) for driving 100`s of miles to teach us to re tuft carpets ( I was having a go at home last night!! ). The whole day was useful and I can assure you both that these sevices will be offered to my clients soon!!!! Also a big thanks to Lorraine for the great sandwiches, pork pies and sausage rolls!! ( And the strawberry quality street!! ;D ). It was great to meet you all and finally put faces to names, you`re really not all as ugly as Paul said you were !! :o ;D :D, Regards, Geoff
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Paul, the link for the slotted glide wand I spoke about
http://cgi.ebay.com/Carpet-Cleaning-12-2-Jet-Concept-Wand_W0QQitemZ270199457886QQihZ017QQcategoryZ42926QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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that really is the business pity they won't ship here.
Shaun
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It`ll probably end up on sale here but twice the price ::)
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It's a shame that I wonder if a few of us got together they would ship?
Shaun
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it might be worth asking if anyone on here is interested then e mailing them
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The twin, narrow slots look great, but the rest of the wand looks like it's very lightly constructed, similar to one I bought from a Cornwall distributor, a year or so ago, which refused to stop spraying even after stripping and reassembling.
As it only cost £95 I didn't bother to end it back.
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The twin, narrow slots look great, but the rest of the wand looks like it's very lightly constructed, similar to one I bought from a Cornwall distributor, a year or so ago, which refused to stop spraying even after stripping and reassembling.
Rob did you take the sticky tape off the trigger ? ;D
Bet I can guess the supplier :)
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The pasty man ;D
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Yes it was S*******s, but it was sold as a clearance offer and I couldn't be bothered complaining, so changed the fittings.
The one shown here looks very similar in it's lightweight construction, although the twin slotted head looks interesting.
Your little event seems to have gone well, though no mention of the leather side, as yet.
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No mention of leather as they are all sworn to secrecy :-X and they dont want the penalties ;)
But they are going to get lots of leather work this year :)
Daves weaving and tufting is going to be a nice little earner too.
So yes they had a great day. Me too.
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Glad you enjoyed it Paul, Relax a little on Friday, you`re a better teacher than you think you are ;)
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WELL YOU SEE THIS WAS HOW WE DID IT :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X ;D UP'S
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ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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I've been thinking about it and there is a flaw in paul's new method of cleaning leather, not everyone has 2 small dogs :-\ :-\,
I can do it because I've a couple of westies but for anyone else going out and purchasing 2 little dogs might be a little bit troublesome, Paul could you get away with 1 big dog ( like a collie or a labrador)
I don't want to say too much but I couldn't find any Pedigree Chum today so used Tescos own brand and it worked just as well, the suite came up lovely
mike
ps 1 tip, don't feed the dog the morning that you are cleaning the suite
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thanks paul and dave L IT WAS A GREAT DAY the food was great thanks lourane we will have to do it again soon
hope it goes well for everyone especially dave liona hes a top guy
thanks
again
dave (the good looking one)
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;D ;D
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You know, it's just struck me - you never see Mike Halliday and Right Said Fred together..................... :o.
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Gary ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks Paul for your efforts in putting the day on. Always interesting to meet other cleaners to find out how things happen in the real world, not as often, it is portrayed on here and certainly not at "organised" events.
Jamie, did you put on the extra 5p a foot the next day and if so how did it go?
Mike, you have e-mail about the waxing of the diesel.
Anyway, hope it goes as well tomorrow for you as it did for us on Monday.
I would travel up to "see" you again only my sight is worse now than it was then.
Best, Dave.
P.S. How did you all get on with the purple carpet??
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Dave my email ad is different from in my profile so I wouldn't receive it, send it to paul and he can forward it to me.
I haven't practiced yet as I'm trying to put a retufting toolkit together, it might be helpful if you could list whats in yours.
thanks
Mike
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Hi Dave,
Yeah put an extra 5p per square foot and she didn't bat an eyelid. Come to think of it I must be too cheap, last year I converted every customer that I went to price first. Lost a load over the phone but there are cleaners cleaning for less than 10p a square foot local to me that get all the price buyers.
New years resolution is less work, more money. Thanks for the encouragement Dave.
Regards
Jamie
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Jamie, really pleased it went ok as I am sure you were holding your breath. Thing is now is to do it again and again till you have tried to double your prices. Along the way you will probably plateau at some point as you will then find price resistance. When you get to this point is when you have to sell to the client why it is that they should use you.
Other than that go find carpet like the purple one to go and clean. Then you can start at a pound a foot and go from there.
You still have room to put on another 10 or 15p a foot after your already 5p a foot increase before you have to sell yourself as you are right, you are too cheep. Especaily when you are using one of the best truck mounts around.
You can give me a ring anytime if you need any more help.
If I am up that way to clean you can tag along if you like to see how I do things if it is any help.
Mike, give me a ring too and I will go through the stuff I have in my kit. Easier than writing a list on here and we can go through the waxing problem.
My number is 07947 620 495
Best, Dave.
Who needs Howard now??
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Hi Dave.
I'm in the same boat as mike need to get a kit togrther but we did't really talk much about what we should buy can i give you a bell??
CHEERS TONY
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Yes of course, you also had a question about a rug so we can go through that too. Best, Dave.
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Dave L I will give you a ring over weekend ref feed back from today.
Another great day to day although todays guys were not as rowdy as Mondays ;D, had to keep Ashmore on a leash mind ;) ( only cos his wife says he likes it like that)
Any way hope to day went well for all and even though I go a thousand mile an hour, I hope you got the gist.
Picture of the bunch of reprebates from left to right/top to bottom.
Rob Stubbs, Dave Machin, Shaun Ashmore, Dave Lee, Mossy,John Gregory,Mike Osborne.
Ps Thanks for the Booze guys,very kind ( I think Dave M and Mike)
Dave Lee a monster truckmount :o, out of this world,pitty Dave Leahona did not see it, he would have been well impressed.
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Good job you're looking at the camera otherwise this pic could have been even dodgier than the last one :)
John Gregory was brave sitting next to you, where are your hands this time ;D
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John Gregory was brave sitting next to you, where are your hands this time ;D
Here is a clue.
Thats not a smile on Johns Face ;)
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Thanks for a great day Paul and to Lorraine for the Coffee and food.
The leather training will without doubt be of great benefit to me in the future and has been a substantial confidence booster for me to get out and do it.
All the best Rob
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Great day, great food, great company.....that means everyone!
Thanks again Paul and Lorraine it was fandabidosy to see you again.
Shaun
PS Has Dave Lee found his upholstery tool yet? ;D
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Shaun
When you left he sold it to me for £25 :D
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Really enjoyed the day , Thank you Mr and Mrs Moss , It was really nice to put faces to the names that you see all the time on this forum
Thanks John
PS I think Dave Lee is still driving around the M60 talking to his new sat nav apparently it's company for him
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Paul and Lorraine,
Thanks for an excellent day, well worth the journey and facing floods and snow on the home leg.
And what a great bunch of lads.
Off to B&Q tomorrow.
Mike
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John just make sure you get that leather job tomorrow at a good price. OR
Dave Leahona will be visiting you in the small hours ;) :D
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Just to say thanks for a superb day to Paul and Lorraine and the lads hope to see you all again
Dave M :)
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Sounds like you guys had a great time.
Well done Paul for getting it together.
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glad yor day was as good as ours last monday thanks again paul and louraine
dave L i will call you over the weekend to discuss putting a kit together if thats ok thanks for teaching us your skills hope all went well at the hospital
dave
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Thx Dave, how did the new RX go on yesterdays big job?
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Mick and Tony and anyone else. Hope this helps. Just bear in mind that you are trying to recreate how the textile was made in the first place. So whatever you need to do so is fine. I just use all sorts of needles , punches even screwdrivers like I showed you. Really, just make it up as you go along. If you cant get the tuft or weave or knot just right then keep doing it till it is right or ifnot cheet. Anway, if you can do the purple carpet and the other small samples you will be fine doing anything else on site. Having said that, if you get them be careful with the textiles with 3, 4, 5, or 6000 knots per square inch. They can be a bit tricky. I didnt have one with me to show you but on these I have used acupunture needles before. Hey, whatever works, right?
Best, Dave.
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Dave the monocle is missing from the set ;D
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thanks Dave :) :)
Mike
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Rob I think you have got the wrong end of the stick mate.
Simplicity is exactly what Dave is going on about.The kit he has put pics of costs very little to put together.
There have been lots of occasions were I have come across a burn,bleach mark which can be re tufted/rewoven, and as you say can take minutes to do and can add £30 or £40 to your price ticket.
Thats the very same reason I did the leather days, just to show how easy and quick it is and not be scarred to try. Simplicity that is my system ;)
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Just saying, why burden yourself unnecessarily, when there's an easier way, which is exactly what you are doing with leather, as you say, keeping it simple, :) :) :)
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Rob, do you ever have anything nice or positive to say? What can be more simple than a few needles, a bit of cotton and a pair of pliers?
The idea is, that those who attended the two days so graciously put on by Paul, can now offer a service that not many other cleaners offer. This means they are better than they were the day before going and accordingly can charge more. As knowledge should be paid for, at least I think it should be.
This sets them up to approach textile companies to do just re-weaving or re-tufting. Both of which you have rightly suggested is very inexpensive to kit up for and the rewards are far greater than any type of cleaning or any services to do with this industry.
If that isnt simple then I dont know what is.
20 seconds of actual work and anywhere from £25 to maybe £300 or perhaps £400 . Simple!!!! Not sure how that is a burden.
Best, Dave.
P.S. No one has mentioned about an I.I.C.R.C. course,, we all went to Pauls for free for a day out and are better "cleaners" for the journey.
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Seeing as no else has asked the question, how do you clean leather quickly?
If you are sworn to secrecy then you may email me confidentially ;)
Mark
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Ive been busy today, thats why i am late, Not cause Im stll driving around (John, I'll see you) and yes that Shaun nearly made it a very expensive day, but it didnt take more than a few seconds to sus him. Hope you are that sharp at 61, Shaun, and as someone else pointed out it looks loike you will be even grayer than me by then.
Anyway to the main point. Paul you are an absolute top man, top pro and you can buy me a pint anytime you like.
Seriously, a great day, nice to meet new faces and overall a great nice bunch of lads. Learnt a lot, Pauls, time, enthuiasm, energy and generosity for his fellow professionals is to be applauded.
I can not finish withou a special mention for Loraine, Pauls lovely wife (If I were only 25 years younger) thanks very much for putting up with us, the brews, food etc, thank you very much.
See you again sometime, everyone.
Dave.
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WELL PUT DAVE simplicity was just what you taught us. I for one now feel i can go out and offer a better service and EARN MORE MONEY with my new found skill cheers mate.
TONY
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Thanks guys for all your kind comments . Im glad every body got some thing out of it, me included.
Big thanks to Dave Liahona ( spelt it right at last :D) Top man.
Cant believe the interest, I have had over 100 emails about this.
I bet in the next 6 to 12 months Leather will have earnt you all a few quid ;)
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Hi Paul.
Went to local auction and charity shops last week to try and get some leather item to practice on no joy yet, can you message me to tell me the make of your spray guns please.
CHEERS TONY
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Tony
You can get spray guns from Hobby type shops whee you will also get the aerosol cans.
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I prefer gravity fed
For small jobs I use this type
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For larger jobs this type is better.
You can pick them up cheap on ebay, see following link.
Make sure you get one with a plastic cup not metal as its easier to clean.
Also with this type you can alter the spray pattern better and adjust the power of the spray.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-SIP-HVLP-Gravity-Fed-Spray-Gun-02138_W0QQitemZ320204433739QQihZ011QQcategoryZ22664QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem