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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: easy clean on January 06, 2008, 09:35:29 pm

Title: what do you think?
Post by: easy clean on January 06, 2008, 09:35:29 pm
i've got a guy who's been working for me part time and now i want him to do full time.

i've offered him £100 per day with him doing £250 worth of work, which equates to 40% pay, he has use of the van and he has to basically run the round. he will get a work sheet at the beginning of the week(george printout) and he'll work through the houses collecting what he can. he also will have to go to the yard where i producw water and will have to fill up when necessary.

i know he can do the job as i left him to get ion with it for 2 weeks last year whilst i was on holiday and i know him well enough for him not to pinch my work.

does it sound reasonable what i'm offering?

by the way when i clean i do £40 per hour so £250 per day is easily achievable, he should take no more than 7 hours.
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: macmac on January 06, 2008, 09:42:04 pm
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by the way when i clean i do £40 per hour so £250 per day is easily achievable, he should take no more than 7 hours.   

Yeah for you, but how hard would you work if someone took 150 quid off you every day? would you still work as hard?

tony
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: Gerry Styles on January 06, 2008, 09:47:04 pm
Thats over £20 per hour. Good money ;)
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: macmac on January 06, 2008, 09:51:41 pm
Thats over £20 per hour. Good money ;)

 it's actually 14.28 per hour, still good money but will he have the same motivation as easy clean who gets 35.70 per hour for the same work?

tony
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: TennetClean on January 06, 2008, 09:55:27 pm
No it isnt nearly enough.

£100 a day is dead easy to earn on your own round with no effort at all.  Before long he will realise this, and appreciate the fact that he could be doing houses like these himself and keeping the whole whack.

I'd be happy to earn about £70 from a worker, so I would offer him £180 per day provided he reaches the minimum target each week, which should be resonable and allow for factors beyond his control.

You must also give an incentive to stay working for you, rather than setting up on his own, such as paid holidays, paid sick leave, pension scheme etc.  Take him on as an actual employee and pay him via PAYE, that way it will be like a proper job, not a loose arrangement.  Nothing worse than when people take someone on on a self employed basis - that is a recipe for disaster.

£20 an hour is NOT good money in window cleaning terms, and anyone who thinks it is needs to get their act together.
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: Neil Williams on January 06, 2008, 10:31:13 pm
i've got a guy who's been working for me part time and now i want him to do full time.

i've offered him £100 per day with him doing £250 worth of work, which equates to 40% pay,

That's more than enough. never mind the other daft comments afterall who does the 'unpaid' work at the end of each day, plus the NI contributions etc.
Try getting another job on that money without the outlay for vehicle, equipment etc.
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: NWH on January 06, 2008, 10:42:29 pm
That`s good money your giving him,yes you can earn far more on your own we know that but there are some people that don`t want the aggro of getting a round together,that`s a good job for someone.
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: Village Gleam on January 07, 2008, 04:56:58 pm
Sounds good to me easy clean. Starting him on £180 a day sounds a bit daft.

It is human nature to want ever more though, so I expect as time goes by you will have to find ways of maintaining his loyalty.
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: chrismroberts on January 07, 2008, 05:04:09 pm
That seems pretty good money for an employee, but how about adding a little bonus scheme at the end of each month if he exceeds his targets?

OR, to give him the incentive to get new customers for you, letting him keep the full first clean charge..... that way, if he gets you a new customer every day at £10, for example, he makes an extra £50 that week but also grows YOUR business at the same time?
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: bluez on January 07, 2008, 05:08:20 pm
window cleaning isn't rocket science, give employees minimum wage for 8 to 12 weeks and if they measure up put them on a generous incentive on top of their basic. Keep it under 35% or sooner or later the profit element will shrink.

The benifits of being a window cleaning employee are you are finished when you get your list done, you can earn more if you produce more, no one looking over your shoulder all the time, Not being cooped up in an office, use of company vehicle, Holiday pay, sick pay, tips.

If an employee wants more than that then they damn sure better bring a bit more to the party than just completing thier job list. IMO. £180 a day lol, lmfao
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: Village Gleam on January 07, 2008, 05:23:09 pm
Very well put .
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: windowwashers on January 07, 2008, 05:59:06 pm
£180 a day for staff wage  :o :o :o, do you want to sub mine ?
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: bluez on January 08, 2008, 10:03:13 am
Very well put .

Why thank you kind sir
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: davids3511 on January 08, 2008, 11:05:18 am
No it isnt nearly enough.

I'd be happy to earn about £70 from a worker, so I would offer him £180 per day provided he reaches the minimum target each week, which should be resonable and allow for factors beyond his control.

Ok, so you offer him £180.00, who pays for the NI, Employers Liability inurance, Sick days, holidays, bank holidays, Diesel, Tax, Insurance, Lease (or van purchase costs), Corporation tax, Accountancy costs, Water production costs, premises, canvassing, leaflets and so on?
Title: Re: what do you think?
Post by: nat on January 08, 2008, 11:25:34 am
£180 is way way to much. if your supplying him with van equipment everything. Lets break it down

£250 Earnings
£180 Wages

£1250 Earning for week
£900 Wages For week
£156.25 Employers National Insurance Contribution
£60 Diesel
£5 Equipment budget (i work out around £5 per week for wfp replacements over the course of the year)
£10 Van insurance
£19.38 Per week for holiday and bank holiday payments you will make over the course of the year
£12.50 Employees Insurance
£10.00 wear and tear on your vehicle??

all adds up to £1173.13

you probably had start up costs. van purchase and every thing else so you would do all that to make

£76.87 its not going to make you a millionaire really is it?

may not be exact but its along them lines