Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: xxmattyxx on January 05, 2008, 01:49:42 pm
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Ive always cleaned trad and have my tried and tested formula for pricing jobs up, its simple enough and works for me.
However, when going over to WFP did you ex trad guys adopt a different pricing strategy or continue to use the same one. The reason I ask is that Ive come to understand that WFP is quicker given time, thus a superior hourly rate is achieved. So do you lower your price per window when WFP to ensure gaining new work and give the custy a better value for money job or keep the same formula to ensure a better hourly rate when WFP?
Matt
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I'd say, (but I'm not on wfp yet) is still charge the same amount per window (like £1 or £2) and then you'd have the same price, but done in (hopefully) half the time. Then you still make twice as much?
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I never lowered my price I kept it the same and I kept the same pricing strategy throughout, just let your custy know that all there frames will now be cleaned as standard, plus it cost you to run the equipment and produce your water.
Wfp is quicker so it enables you to add more custy's to your round at good prices, so increases your turnover/profit.
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Ive always cleaned trad and have my tried and tested formula for pricing jobs up, its simple enough and works for me.
However, when going over to WFP did you ex trad guys adopt a different pricing strategy or continue to use the same one. The reason I ask is that Ive come to understand that WFP is quicker given time, thus a superior hourly rate is achieved. So do you lower your price per window when WFP to ensure gaining new work and give the custy a better value for money job or keep the same formula to ensure a better hourly rate when WFP?
Matt
same sort of prices, when I changed over but put up the lower priced jobs as this was a good excuse to do so. I lost a couple the other day putting up their price that had been the same for years, done me a favour.
Ian
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when i first changed over i kept my prices the same because at the end of the day you are doing the same job as before (only faster and safer)
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Thanks guys; exactly what I expected to hear.
I guess that sometimes when pricing new clients that there could be a tendency though to under-price, knowing the job can be done that much quicker to ensure securing it. Maybe thats just me, always wanting that new customer; but theres so much truth in the belief that your under-pricing if you secure EVERY job you price. Which would be easier to do if you know its easier with WFP.
Matt
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This is what I did,
Told customer about the changes and the price went up £2
And I lost only one customer
Mo 8)
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Why did you put the prices up?
Just using your conversion as an opportunity to raise prices or did you have a commercial reason?
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Dont forget you have to invest your money to do the job and buy your resing, diesel, insunce etc etc
Mo8)
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Wouldnt your increased production from a more efficient method do that for you?
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This is what I did,
Told customer about the changes and the price went up £2
And I lost only one customer
Mo 8)
I am doing it too Mo as they are now getting extra services and it costs me more, i know i will lose a few more but that does not worry me at all as I pick up 10 times the amount I lose without trying to hard.
Ian
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I incrase my price every tow years
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exactly
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So you didnt put your prices up BECAUSE you went WFP, you put them up simply because they were due to go up?
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I incrase my price every tow years
I had not put up alot of customers for a few years now, building business ect I got lax on that, I am finally upto date with work and have a little more time from window cleaning to look into it more. So up they will go some £1 some £2 and some will not, I try and be fair and also carry on making more profit year or year and not go down.
Ian
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So you didnt put your prices up BECAUSE you went WFP, you put them up simply because they were due to go up?
who was the ? to matty ?
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I'd rather be scuba-diving
I just come back from Egypt 8)
The coral still looking nice 8)
Mo 8)
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So you didnt put your prices up BECAUSE you went WFP, you put them up simply because they were due to go up?
who was the ? to matty ?
Mo
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yes
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I'd rather be scuba-diving
I just come back from Egypt 8)
The coral still looking nice 8)
Mo 8)
Im off back there diving in 9 weeks. Dont you just love the lifestyle this job gives you.
Matt
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I'd rather be scuba-diving
I just come back from Egypt 8)
The coral still looking nice 8)
Mo 8)
Im off back there diving in 9 weeks. Dont you just love the lifestyle this job gives you.
Matt
i am defo doing something wrong me, not had a holiday (a real one for 5 years)
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Don`t fall into the trap of pricing cheaper just because you`ll be doing the job a lot quicker,it is easy to do that.When WFP you can look at a job in a different way because all the hassles you had before with ladders now don`t exsist,of course you don`t tell the customer this and you price as you would have done before when working trad,this is the way your really going to see the difference in earnings by doing the same amount of work in nearly half the time.
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Also running costs have been essentially doubled, Trad costs peanuts, so it's probably more like quadrupled. Take 15ml of cleaning solution to 250l of water. :)
Definitely not lower prices. If customers ask, just explain them that even tho it's faster it's also a lot more expensive (still not much but still!) to run, show them the back of your van, and most of them will think WOW, that's a lot of tech. They already say that now sometimes when I come round the corner with my ladderm8rix and extension pole lol.
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Don`t fall into the trap of pricing cheaper just because you`ll be doing the job a lot quicker,it is easy to do that.When WFP you can look at a job in a different way because all the hassles you had before with ladders now don`t exsist,of course you don`t tell the customer this and you price as you would have done before when working trad,this is the way your really going to see the difference in earnings by doing the same amount of work in nearly half the time.
Thanks, the Don`t fall into the trap of pricing cheaper just because you`ll be doing the job a lot quicker,it is easy to do that
bit was what I was trying to get at generally; and this is the way your really going to see the difference in earnings by doing the same amount of work in nearly half the time
was what I was hoping for.
Matt
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I'd rather be scuba-diving
I just come back from Egypt 8)
The coral still looking nice 8)
Mo 8)
Im off back there diving in 9 weeks. Dont you just love the lifestyle this job gives you.
Matt
i am defo doing something wrong me, not had a holiday (a real one for 5 years)
You must be, I have 2 foreign holidays a year and this will be 3 a year once Im WFP. We all have our priorities. My number 1 is to be ablt to go away on holiday and have a comfortable life, Ive had my fair share of ups and downs, many self-inflicted ;D I have ambition/discipline and drive when it comes to work from which I get great satisfaction, however its pointless if I cant travel additionally to that.
For some work is their primary method of achieving pleasure in life and thats fine so far as Im concerned, however it does seem to be a lifestyle lacking in something, it wouldnt be enough for me to just have a great working life, I like to have more than just that; and travel is something I love to do as well as scuba dive and keep marine fish and corals.
Matt
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I'd rather be scuba-diving
I just come back from Egypt 8)
The coral still looking nice 8)
Mo 8)
Im off back there diving in 9 weeks. Dont you just love the lifestyle this job gives you.
Matt
i am defo doing something wrong me, not had a holiday (a real one for 5 years)
You must be, I have 2 foreign holidays a year and this will be 3 a year once Im WFP. We all have our priorities. My number 1 is to be ablt to go away on holiday and have a comfortable life, Ive had my fair share of ups and downs, many self-inflicted ;D I have ambition/discipline and drive when it comes to work from which I get great satisfaction, however its pointless if I cant travel additionally to that.
For some work is their primary method of achieving pleasure in life and thats fine so far as Im concerned, however it does seem to be a lifestyle lacking in something, it wouldnt be enough for me to just have a great working life, I like to have more than just that; and travel is something I love to do as well as scuba dive and keep marine fish and corals.
Matt
good on you, I am having a holiday this year all inclusive sit relax eat to much and swim and maybe the odd beer or 3.
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You will also find that you can increase the price on alot of jobs due to being able to reach windows over conservatories, velux windows and recessed dormer windows and the like.
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Matty if you want to really see the underwater world come over to the darkside....www.rebreatherworld.com
;) Dave
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Wfp equipment costs more than trad to set up a window cleaning business but the earnings of wfp could be much greater if you get the right work and price it right, so i tend to keep my prices from £10 onwards. Ive got some work thats priced under 10 but thats bungalows etc and i do them by hand anyway
Its suprises me how many trad guys there are still about charging rediculously low prices, i know of one trad guy who charges £4 for a house with conservatory and hes been going about 30 years, never hardly puts his prices up.
Wether your trad or wfp i would charge a decent amount and stick to it but sometimes the customers will only pay what they can afford
Brett
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Wfp equipment costs more than trad to set up a window cleaning business but the earnings of wfp could be much greater if you get the right work and price it right, so i tend to keep my prices from £10 onwards. Ive got some work thats priced under 10 but thats bungalows etc and i do them by hand anyway
Its suprises me how many trad guys there are still about charging rediculously low prices, i know of one trad guy who charges £4 for a house with conservatory and hes been going about 30 years, never hardly puts his prices up.
Wether your trad or wfp i would charge a decent amount and stick to it but sometimes the customers will only pay what they can afford
Brett
never would I let a customer dicate price, they cant go into tesco and get bread cheaper even though it has doubled in price they would be get no where.
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LOL not half Matty
I am of to Colarado for a week Snowboarding would never have been able to take time off work before but have arranged next months work around it and Olay I am going in four weeks time
Hee hee
I love this Job
I am going to put all my new customers up every two years
all customers I get from now untill April 2009 will go up a pound
Regards J