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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jonah on January 03, 2008, 10:42:14 pm

Title: wfp taking over
Post by: jonah on January 03, 2008, 10:42:14 pm
Am I the only one on here who is sick and tired of reading posts about wfp ? ....." Oh no me pipes are gonna freeze what am I gonna do " Real men (traditional as my old unit sergeant liked to call us ) are actually going up and down ladders and cleaning windows ! Its ok we understand you have gone soft , but dont worry will carry on while ya pipes are freezing , we get the satisfaction of extra cups of tea and ......" wow we didnt expect to see anyone coming through that blizzard !   Its ok your van looks nice ...... !
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Neil Williams on January 03, 2008, 10:44:50 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Pole2pole on January 03, 2008, 10:46:35 pm
Hi Jonah and welcome to the site. Gotta warn ya though.......if you're anti wfp and don't want people going on about wfp,then maybe this aint the place for ya fella. It used to be a 50/50 thing,but not any more. Open your eyes a bit though is my advice. When one of my customers once told me they saw a couple of blokes cleaning windows with poles, i laughed. Within a year i was a pole person too. And i have ABSOLUTELY no regrets.  :)
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 03, 2008, 10:48:48 pm
Am I the only one on here who is sick and tired of reading posts about wfp ? ....." Oh no me pipes are gonna freeze what am I gonna do " Real men (traditional as my old unit sergeant liked to call us ) are actually going up and down ladders and cleaning windows ! Its ok we understand you have gone soft , but dont worry will carry on while ya pipes are freezing , we get the satisfaction of extra cups of tea and ......" wow we didnt expect to see anyone coming through that blizzard !   Its ok your van looks nice ...... !

Presumably you've tried it so are well qualified to criticise.
Next you'll be saying that only real men get swallowed by whales.  Personally, I haven't tried that so am not in a position to judge.
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Pole2pole on January 03, 2008, 10:49:58 pm
Oh and try not to alienate yourself..........we're a good bunch really. You say you're sick and tired..........but you've only posted half a dozen times. Give us time  ;) As my wife says. Real men need to hold their pole with BOTH hands :)
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: gary999 on January 03, 2008, 10:52:31 pm
oh how nasty!! :'( youve deeply hurt me :'( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on January 03, 2008, 10:54:10 pm
this forum bans swearing so i am unable to post a reply  ;D ;D tosser
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Pole2pole on January 03, 2008, 10:55:47 pm
That's what i "really" wanted to say  ;D but,being so close to christmas............ :-X
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: jonah on January 03, 2008, 11:00:07 pm
Just saying You wfp whinge a lot , while the traditional just get on with it and are real men !
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: gary999 on January 03, 2008, 11:01:02 pm
lmao ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Pole2pole on January 03, 2008, 11:02:27 pm
Only one person whinging on this post so far. Just relax a bit. If you've got a trad question...ask it. If you ain't..then er...don't. If you see a post about wfp..don't read it. Easypeasy.
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: matt on January 03, 2008, 11:06:36 pm
i like jonah

reasons

he says it like it is ;)
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: TVCS on January 03, 2008, 11:10:53 pm
I remember when mr sqweaky used to mock the wfp'lers on this site and now he  is one .  
  But it must be said that at this time of year ther are going to be a lot of posts relating to the cold conditions that we are ALL experiencing.  But having said that there are also alot of posts relating to Scrimms and different detergents etc that the trad guys post.  At the end of the day we are all too lazy to look through the search part of the forum.  If you have no interest in the problems we are having with our frozen pipes, why read them.  
I use a mixture of trad and wfp.  
The part about being a real man if you trad makes me part real man and part artificial??
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: xxmattyxx on January 03, 2008, 11:11:47 pm
Hi, just starting out but have noticed there are two groups on here......wfp and traditional !  wouldnt it be an idea to split the two into seperate forums ?   :-*

I always used to try to teach my grandmother to suck eggs too, til I got egg on my face, you did say you were just starting out didnt you?


BTW I'm trad Jonah, but will hoepfully be a softie WFPer shortly, bring it on  ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Pole2pole on January 03, 2008, 11:13:58 pm
I better not tell jonah i'm playing bingo on the other page  ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on January 03, 2008, 11:15:19 pm
sorry but if this is is not a wind up a la j demarco then you are an immense fudging rectum jonah however if you are having a little joke fair enough otherwise fudge off you mother fudging womans wee thing  ;D ;D ;D did i mention swearing was banned
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: cleanandshine on January 03, 2008, 11:15:53 pm
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Just saying You wfp whinge a lot , while the traditional just get on with it and are real men !



NO wfp is just going with the times get used to it ,,
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: xxmattyxx on January 03, 2008, 11:18:35 pm
sorry but if this is is not a wind up a la j demarco then you are an immense fudging rectum jonah however if you are having a little joke fair enough otherwise fudge off you mother fudging womans wee thing  ;D ;D ;D did i mention swearing was banned

Just want to have something clarified here, when you say fudging do you mean like fudge packin'?  ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on January 03, 2008, 11:18:58 pm
and by the way i use both trad and wfp and work in any weather i can get away with .Real men my middle eastern donkey  ::) ::)
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: gary999 on January 03, 2008, 11:20:05 pm
me thinks somebody is feeling a tinsy winsy insecure with the constant referrals
to being a real man. ;D

maybe he feels insignificant standing next to a man with a large pole in his hand ;) ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on January 03, 2008, 11:20:51 pm
i have never worked in a devonshire confectioners  :o :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: cleanandshine on January 03, 2008, 11:21:59 pm
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maybe he feels insignificant standing next to a man with a large pole in his hand


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 03, 2008, 11:24:54 pm
Just saying You wfp whinge a lot , while the traditional just get on with it and are real men !

Real men eh?  So that's what this thread is about.  Why didn't you just say this thread was a willy waving competition?
Hope this thread gets deleted.
Seems pretty pointless to me.
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Pole2pole on January 03, 2008, 11:26:27 pm
Just saying You wfp whinge a lot , while the traditional just get on with it and are real men !

Real men eh?  So that's what this thread is about.  Why didn't you just say this thread was a willy waving competition?
Hope this thread gets deleted.
Seems pretty pointless to me.
Oh don't delete it mods.........i like these post the best  ;)
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: brett walker on January 03, 2008, 11:29:01 pm
Jonah

welcome to the site

in our business wfp and trad are both needed its just different tools, if your just starting out trad you'll get good advice on here and maybe you can help others out

you may not like wfp because you dont understand it but one  day you might need it or change to it so try not to be too hastey or negative concentrate on one job at a time.

They are a helpful bunch on this forum

good luck with your business

regards

Brett.



Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Sir Squeaky on January 03, 2008, 11:29:22 pm
Lets hope I don't say anything on the matter... ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Pole2pole on January 03, 2008, 11:32:11 pm
No squeaks.....stay outta this one  ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: jonah on January 03, 2008, 11:41:47 pm
Just wanted to make a passing comment of what I have read . Sorry If you took offence ! I have got some good pointers from this forum ! Now I need to shower ....I feel unclean !
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 03, 2008, 11:43:12 pm
Just wanted to make a passing comment of what I have read . Sorry If you took offence ! I have got some good pointers from this forum ! Now I need to shower ....I feel unclean !

Maybe someone with a hot water WFP can help you out with that.  ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on January 03, 2008, 11:50:17 pm
i use this forum to ask for advice to offload frustrations and to just chat with like minded people i started trad and went wfp last year but use both depending on job . Now if jonah is just having a laugh then fair enough BUT if not then he should remember we all CLEAN WINDOWS. Wfp users get just as cold and work just as hard and most of us were trad once ok?? Sorry for taking it personal but there you go .There is a lot of help and good advice on this forum no need to start all this crap
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: cleanandshine on January 03, 2008, 11:50:34 pm
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Maybe someone with a hot water WFP can help you out with that


 ;D ;D ;D now that was good
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: RO-Sheen on January 03, 2008, 11:56:33 pm
Am I the only one on here who is sick and tired of reading posts about wfp ? ....." Oh no me pipes are gonna freeze what am I gonna do " Real men (traditional as my old unit sergeant liked to call us ) are actually going up and down ladders and cleaning windows ! Its ok we understand you have gone soft , but dont worry will carry on while ya pipes are freezing , we get the satisfaction of extra cups of tea and ......" wow we didnt expect to see anyone coming through that blizzard !   Its ok your van looks nice ...... !

Hey Jonah, Ever hear of the phrase 'Work smarter, not harder'? Think about it when you are next climbing up and down ladders all day taking half hour to clean a house! ;)
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Wayne Thomas on January 04, 2008, 12:03:31 am
Who really cares wether you clean windows traditionally or WFP.
It's down to the individual to decide which method they prefer.
I don't knock any traditional window cleaners. I was one myself for several years before my illness  forced me to give up work and left me dependant on help from other people.
WFP has allowed me to re-start window cleaning and give me back my independence.
I treat my job differently now because of my past. I run it as a business as efficiently as I can manage.
I don't do favours of any kind for customers, or free washes, or let them run up an outstanding bill.
It's a business and I only do this job because of the money to pay my mortgage, that's the bottom line.
Who cares what the customers think. So long as I do the best job I can in the quickest time possible, that's it, end of story.
If I could clean a house quicker up a ladder than WFP I would if my health permitted it but it doesn't so I'm stuck with WFP. So I've accepted it and try to do every job with the minimum of effort in the quickest time possible.
It's a means to bring in a wage to live life and enjoy it as no-one knows what life will throw at them in the future. :)
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: supernova77 on January 04, 2008, 12:12:04 am
Jonah,

Don't come running back to us when your ladder slips on some icey decking in this weather!

 ;)

Andy
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: gary999 on January 04, 2008, 12:17:10 am
yep cause we will all still be standing feeling manly holding our large poles
in our hands ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: pingu on January 04, 2008, 06:34:47 am
Well if a topic is 'boring' you why not use it as a starting point to start posts, engaged other 'trad' users view,opinions, start a few polls...be positive ....

Dave.
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Londoner on January 04, 2008, 07:10:34 am
I thought we had seen the last of these postings. Its not about REAL MEN its about REAL MONEY. Anybody who wants to financially disadvantage themselves by cleaning windows the hard way can't have an opinion worth listening to.

Yes WFP is taking over. You've got to ask yourself why.
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: bluez on January 04, 2008, 12:20:35 pm
Window dirty :'(.....window clean :) I dont think the customer gives a monkeys if it was cleaned by a 60ft pole waving team of thai ladyboys or by a real deal, true life, comic book hero MAN on a ladder............so long as its clean  ::)

Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: Sir Squeaky on January 04, 2008, 01:37:52 pm
Window dirty :'(.....window clean :) I dont think the customer gives a monkeys if it was cleaned by a 60ft pole waving team of thai ladyboys or by a real deal, true life, comic book hero MAN on a ladder............so long as its clean  ::)


...and dry in most cases... ::)
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: bumper on January 04, 2008, 01:49:19 pm
i was walking down the street when this woman came out and shouted to this guy with a big pole holding it with  both hands, i think he was cleaning windows,she shouted when you finnished
cleaning them windows with that brush come and clean my toilet ive pebbled  dashed it  ;D
Title: Re: wfp taking over
Post by: tonylee on January 04, 2008, 03:33:07 pm
real man eh?
well i ve swung my pole all morning filled the old trad bucket with cash, now off to get hair and nails done and a chest wax
real man? be off will ya fella