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Title: schrader connectors
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on January 02, 2008, 05:13:40 pm
what is the best place for getting these sort of connectors i usually order from cleantech but as they are in scotland no one is there today so looking around on web and found prices seem to vary but does quality vary too?? cleantechs ones are ok quality and last longer than others i bought locall in spring last year but window clean warehouse seem very cheap and wintecs are also cheaper but is it false economy??? by the way iam after female fittings with 6mm barb any pointers appreciated cheers
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on January 02, 2008, 05:41:29 pm
come on chaps any ideas i want to be ordering stuff tomorrow :)any body got any views/opinions/advice on this  ???
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: MNWC on January 02, 2008, 06:55:25 pm
have you tried gardiners

Marcus
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 02, 2008, 07:07:37 pm
We do compatible connectors under our EZ-Snap range.

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/EZ-Snap_Range.html
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: Village Gleam on January 02, 2008, 09:10:39 pm
Any Hot hose updates?
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Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 02, 2008, 09:31:51 pm
Very soon, just awaiting final confirmation following the holiday season factory shut-down!
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Post by: NWH on January 02, 2008, 09:36:31 pm
Hi Alex i could really do with that new pole,do you know when please.
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Post by: Wayne Thomas on January 02, 2008, 09:42:11 pm
Any Hot hose updates?

Hello Mr Solubility, happy New Year to you. Patience is a virtue. I wondered how long you could last before you asked the question about hot hose. How's your heater system going? I had my first problem today but was quickly helped out by Glynn from Omnipole, so a big thank-you to him and the others there :)
I'm not starting work until next week but wanted to make sure everything is working fine and that my batteries are nicely re-charged after a long break.
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: NWH on January 02, 2008, 09:43:54 pm
Did you have to reset the thermostat switch.
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: Wayne Thomas on January 02, 2008, 09:46:04 pm
Did you have to reset the thermostat switch.

Yes, hi NWH, happy new year to you. How did you guess ??? Have you had a heater installed yet ???
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: NWH on January 02, 2008, 09:51:10 pm
Happy new year to you to mate,when i enquired about this heater i wanted to know how reliable they were and what were the things that could go wrong,i told him that my system has been really reliable and hasn`t let me down running cold water only,i said i`d like one but only if you can assure me that it`s reliable and he said the only thing that happens occasionally is you need to reset the switch.Why what happens and if they know this why don`t they fix the problem,i`m probobly going to wait till the new van as i`ll have more room.
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 02, 2008, 10:01:25 pm
Hi Alex i could really do with that new pole,do you know when please.

The earliest it will be is the end of January.  :(
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: Wayne Thomas on January 02, 2008, 10:03:11 pm
I had to re-set the thermostats because they had tripped out. It's a built in safety feature of the unit to prevent the heater being damaged if the water overheats.
It's a matter of unscrewing four screws and pressing in2 buttons inside the front cover of the unit. I've run my heater for 62 hours since end of Nov 07 and this is the first time I've needed to re-set the thermostats.
This is the first real problem I've encountered with the exception of having too low a battery (amperage wise, (for the heater), connected to a second battery running off a split charge relay to run the heater continuously for a very long period. I've now replaced the 30amp battery for a 110amp instead so I won't drain the battery between charges.
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: NWH on January 02, 2008, 10:54:54 pm
Alex. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: burky-boy on January 02, 2008, 10:58:18 pm
I had to re-set the thermostats because they had tripped out. It's a built in safety feature of the unit to prevent the heater being damaged if the water overheats.
It's a matter of unscrewing four screws and pressing in2 buttons inside the front cover of the unit. I've run my heater for 62 hours since end of Nov 07 and this is the first time I've needed to re-set the thermostats.
This is the first real problem I've encountered with the exception of having too low a battery (amperage wise, (for the heater), connected to a second battery running off a split charge relay to run the heater continuously for a very long period. I've now replaced the 30amp battery for a 110amp instead so I won't drain the battery between charges.
hiwayne just wondering what heater do you have in your van

Thanks Steve
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: Village Gleam on January 03, 2008, 12:12:19 am
Hi Wayne,
The heaters okay but it sometimes doesn't shut off when it should, so I'm looking at a morco f11 which is all singing all dancing state of the art. The only issue with this is if I can achieve an acceptably low flow rate.(2.4?)

I think that in general it may be that there is an issue when the gas bottle is low/pressure drops, and the brains inside these things go a bit docile.

My other ongoing scheme is to get a powered reel for winding in.
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: Wayne Thomas on January 03, 2008, 02:49:12 pm
Hi Wayne,
The heaters okay but it sometimes doesn't shut off when it should, so I'm looking at a morco f11 which is all singing all dancing state of the art. The only issue with this is if I can achieve an acceptably low flow rate.(2.4?)

I think that in general it may be that there is an issue when the gas bottle is low/pressure drops, and the brains inside these things go a bit docile.

My other ongoing scheme is to get a powered reel for winding in.

Hi, good luck with your heater. As for the powered hose reel, NWH gave you the websites for the reels you're on about. I had a look out of curiosity, they're well expensive.
My only advice is 'KISS' Keep It Simple Stupid' - forget the fancy, complicated stuff and look for decent quality, reliable, simple tools that do the job they promise to. If it's simple then there's less to go wrong. You'll probably end up spending a fortune on all these DIY gas heating systems and lose so much time fault finding and time off work that you might consider 'biting the bullet' and investing in a reliable, tried & tested unit without all the grief, it's your decision. Good luck with it anyway :)

Steve, the heater I use is Omnipole's hot water unit which is on there website. Nothing in life is perfect, but it's been very good to me so far so I'm not complaining yet :)
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: burky-boy on January 03, 2008, 11:38:23 pm
Hi Wayne,
The heaters okay but it sometimes doesn't shut off when it should, so I'm looking at a morco f11 which is all singing all dancing state of the art. The only issue with this is if I can achieve an acceptably low flow rate.(2.4?)

I think that in general it may be that there is an issue when the gas bottle is low/pressure drops, and the brains inside these things go a bit docile.

My other ongoing scheme is to get a powered reel for winding in.

Hi, good luck with your heater. As for the powered hose reel, NWH gave you the websites for the reels you're on about. I had a look out of curiosity, they're well expensive.
My only advice is 'KISS' Keep It Simple Stupid' - forget the fancy, complicated stuff and look for decent quality, reliable, simple tools that do the job they promise to. If it's simple then there's less to go wrong. You'll probably end up spending a fortune on all these DIY gas heating systems and lose so much time fault finding and time off work that you might consider 'biting the bullet' and investing in a reliable, tried & tested unit without all the grief, it's your decision. Good luck with it anyway :)

Steve, the heater I use is Omnipole's hot water unit which is on there website. Nothing in life is perfect, but it's been very good to me so far so I'm not complaining yet :)
Hi Wayne
Same heater has mine  only just had it fitted but having a few problems think its got something to do with the diesel supply. Fault light flame out keeps coming on after a few minutes also had afew white puffs of smoke today prob got a bit of air in system or maybe bit of crap in the tank ( separate diesel tank fitted ). Since iv been home iv disconected diesel supply and hooked it up to a jerry can i will see if any change when out at work tomorrow . Every thing on the system seams ok was fitted by a corgi plumber so he knows his stuff. All i want is hot water its cold in yorkshire

Steve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYD_5XL0TUw
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: Wayne Thomas on January 04, 2008, 12:16:57 am
Hello Steve,

just watched your vid on utube. Why do you only scrub half a pane of glass at a time on the larger panes of glass whilst scrubbing. It's quicker to wash/scrub the whole pane (vertically) in one go because it saves work and time. No offence intended, just trying to help you :)
I like your ladderless window cleaning picture on utube. Is there anychance I could use that pic for leaflets I sometimes leave customers if you have no objections in emailing it for my use.
My heater draws the fuel straight from a jerry can and I've had no problems. The only frustrating problem I've had is the battery they fitted was too small, and I was running out of usable amps daily, so I replaced it with a 110 amp battery instead.
What warning light comes on with your unit?
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 04, 2008, 05:49:49 am
Hi Alex i could really do with that new pole,do you know when please.

The earliest it will be is the end of January.  :(

Did you ever decide which way to go with it?  I mean are you doing the extension section so that it can take SL2 extensions or did you decide to do it another way?
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 04, 2008, 07:55:17 am
We have decided which way to go! I will email you.
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Post by: burky-boy on January 04, 2008, 05:57:30 pm
Hello Steve,

just watched your vid on utube. Why do you only scrub half a pane of glass at a time on the larger panes of glass whilst scrubbing. It's quicker to wash/scrub the whole pane (vertically) in one go because it saves work and time. No offence intended, just trying to help you :)
I like your ladderless window cleaning picture on utube. Is there anychance I could use that pic for leaflets I sometimes leave customers if you have no objections in emailing it for my use.
My heater draws the fuel straight from a jerry can and I've had no problems. The only frustrating problem I've had is the battery they fitted was too small, and I was running out of usable amps daily, so I replaced it with a 110 amp battery instead.
What warning light comes on with your unit?
Hi Wayne
Think its just habbit cleaning the windows like that do short movements to start then usally full lenght scrub to finish ;) .Had problems this morning with heater Flame out warning light came on just like it has been doing so i was thinking maybe fuel pump in heater not working . After a bit of tinkering wen i got home i had it running for about 50 mins ( longest ever not even done a hours running time yet ) . Then voltage light came on so iv gone out and got a 110 amp battery . Hope that is enought to run two pumps and heater for the day its on a split charge so should be. As regards my logo if you look after it and dont pass it on i will let you use it. what format do you want it in
Steve
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: Wayne Thomas on January 04, 2008, 06:40:25 pm
Hello Steve,

just watched your vid on utube. Why do you only scrub half a pane of glass at a time on the larger panes of glass whilst scrubbing. It's quicker to wash/scrub the whole pane (vertically) in one go because it saves work and time. No offence intended, just trying to help you :)
I like your ladderless window cleaning picture on utube. Is there anychance I could use that pic for leaflets I sometimes leave customers if you have no objections in emailing it for my use.
My heater draws the fuel straight from a jerry can and I've had no problems. The only frustrating problem I've had is the battery they fitted was too small, and I was running out of usable amps daily, so I replaced it with a 110 amp battery instead.
What warning light comes on with your unit?
Hi Wayne
Think its just habbit cleaning the windows like that do short movements to start then usally full lenght scrub to finish ;) .Had problems this morning with heater Flame out warning light came on just like it has been doing so i was thinking maybe fuel pump in heater not working . After a bit of tinkering wen i got home i had it running for about 50 mins ( longest ever not even done a hours running time yet ) . Then voltage light came on so iv gone out and got a 110 amp battery . Hope that is enought to run two pumps and heater for the day its on a split charge so should be. As regards my logo if you look after it and dont pass it on i will let you use it. what format do you want it in
Steve

Hi Steve, I would 95% guess that the reason you are getting flame out light come on is because of the lack of charge (amps) in your battery, NOT the fuel pump. The heater unit draws 6.5 amps an hour when running. Add on 14-16 amps for your 2 pumps per hour and you have a max of 22.5 amps an hour being drawn, multiplied by the number of working hours. Remember, the heater unit has a minimum and maximum voltage it will work at before it cuts out and shuts down which is an automatic safety feature to prevent damage to the unit.
I have my 110 amp battery which runs 1 or 2 pumps from the split charge relay. My heater unit is run from a second 110 amp battery (solely for the heater), which is linked by 2 heavy duty cables (pos to pos & neg to neg) so it remains 12v not 24volt.
I try whenever possible, to recharge/maintain both batteries overnight to a full charge  to prolong the life of the batteries as well, despite having a split charge relay fitted.
I use 2 intelligent battery chargers, (one to each battery), so that it doesn't overcharge the batteries, because they trickle charge the batteries when almost fully charged and switches on/off as required to maintain a full charge, so I have no worries about leaving the battery chargers ON inside my van when I'm off to bed and unplug the extension lead before I go to work in the mornings.

Regarding your logo: is it possible to email it to me: (easycleanwayne@msn.com) in JPEG format. It is for my use only and you have my word I won't pass it on to anyone else no matter how persistent they may be :)
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: williamx on January 04, 2008, 10:19:46 pm
what is the best place for getting these sort of connectors i usually order from cleantech but as they are in scotland no one is there today so looking around on web and found prices seem to vary but does quality vary too?? cleantechs ones are ok quality and last longer than others i bought locall in spring last year but window clean warehouse seem very cheap and wintecs are also cheaper but is it false economy??? by the way iam after female fittings with 6mm barb any pointers appreciated cheers

Try this company  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/WATER-SUPPLIES-4-YOU
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: James Smith on January 05, 2008, 02:08:13 am
Sorry to go off topic L.J but the thread went sideways long ago.

I haven't really been here alot lately so must have missed out on the hot water craze  ??? I just have 1 question, how much does it cost to have a 650L tank hot? I can't imagine it's cheap, so how much lads? Forget the equipment, cost per day for a full 650L hot in whatever fuel you are using.

Cheers lads...
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: Village Gleam on January 05, 2008, 08:33:53 am
lpg on demand £3.
Title: Re: schrader connectors
Post by: James Smith on January 05, 2008, 01:56:02 pm
Cheers, might be worth looking into so.