Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: supernova77 on December 24, 2007, 01:19:28 pm
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Hi guys,
Can you please let me know what you think of my new logo?
Good and bad comments welcome!
Andy
(http://www.southerncleaningservices.co.uk/newscs_logo.jpg)
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Hi Andy, you didnt answer my last email :( :) But it looks like youve done a great job of it yourself!!! well done that looks great! :) Did you do it with illustrator?Luke
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Luke,
Sorry mate... I did reply to your email a little earlier today... Thanks for all your help!
Andy
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Looks good, so did you use illustrator? Luke
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Yep, I used illustrator and kept the box thingy from my old logo.
Andy
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can you give me the codes for the blue and silver, I might just have a mess about in my spare time!!
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make sure no one steals it
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Did you have yours stolen LWC, and by who? Luke
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looks good to me andy!!
i see illustrator is catching on ;)
have you made it an outline illustrator file??
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have you made it an outline illustrator file??
???
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once you have got logo as you want. make sure the type is in out lines. group it all together then you can enlarge it as much as needed.
if you still have the type set as a font when you send it to the printers they will not be able to view it properly if they don't have the font. create outlines on aLL FONTS group it and you won't have a problem ;)
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Like the logo looks good
Whats illustrator is it an online program or a disc that you buy?
And where can i get it?
Dean
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A few month ago a guy posted his logo he had paid £100 for, well in 10 minutes I replicated it on Photoshop.
Heres his bought one:
(http://lh3.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_BAOqPB3I/AAAAAAAAAjM/tYloY0YcdgQ/large%5B1%5D.jpg?imgmax=512)
And heres mine, which I think looks better!:
(http://lh6.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_BA-qPB4I/AAAAAAAAAjU/2b-OpNIWlxA/IVESONS%20REPLICA%20jpg.JPG?imgmax=512)
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why didn't you re-create it in illustrator?
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A few month ago a guy posted his logo he had paid £100 for, well in 10 minutes I replicated it on Photoshop.
Heres his bought one:
(http://lh3.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_BAOqPB3I/AAAAAAAAAjM/tYloY0YcdgQ/large%5B1%5D.jpg?imgmax=512)
And heres mine, which I think looks better!:
(http://lh6.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_BA-qPB4I/AAAAAAAAAjU/2b-OpNIWlxA/IVESONS%20REPLICA%20jpg.JPG?imgmax=512)
looks pretty good to me luke.
regards mike
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Because I am a professional photograph restorer, and have both programs. Occasioanlly I use both, they are part of the same package, the CS2 package. Just incase you were wondering, that ivesons file was a jpeg, so I couldnt just open it up and change the colours I had to re build one in the same way. As you can see the stars positions arent perfect but in another 20 mins I could have had an identical replica of the same colours/text/size etc etc, Luke
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Did you have yours stolen LWC, and by who? Luke
yep
http://cleanandshinemk.com/default.aspx
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Have you contacted them regarding it? Luke
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A few month ago a guy posted his logo he had paid £100 for, well in 10 minutes I replicated it on Photoshop.
Heres his bought one:
(http://lh3.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_BAOqPB3I/AAAAAAAAAjM/tYloY0YcdgQ/large%5B1%5D.jpg?imgmax=512)
And heres mine, which I think looks better!:
(http://lh6.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_BA-qPB4I/AAAAAAAAAjU/2b-OpNIWlxA/IVESONS%20REPLICA%20jpg.JPG?imgmax=512)
cleaners is spelt wrong but good effort ;)
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all i'm saying luke is this is where people don't use the applications properly. i know its not serious and you just whipped it together but by using illustrator you have the flex ability to edit the type. photoshop you don't its just for editing images. to create anything always use illustrator its a 1000 times better
you could of taken that jpeg image into illustrator and traced it rather than re create in the wrong application ;) you could of edited the type properly as the original in illustrator as well
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Because I am a professional photograph restorer, and have both programs. Occasioanlly I use both, they are part of the same package, the CS2 package. Just incase you were wondering, that ivesons file was a jpeg, so I couldnt just open it up and change the colours I had to re build one in the same way. As you can see the stars positions arent perfect but in another 20 mins I could have had an identical replica of the same colours/text/size etc etc, Luke
do you have any before and after shots of your work in photoshop luke. i like to look at other peoples work
LWC has some good work ;)
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after shots of your work in photoshop luke. i like to look at other peoples work
LWC has some good work ;)
:)
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Your talking to me like I know nothing :) :) I am a Photoshop professional, I just prefer photoshop, I have all the professional equipment. Very expensive graphics tablets etc etc. I use illustrator regularly but to do this it was easier just to do it on Photoshop, Luke
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Yes I have a portfolio of my work. I did consider following it as a proper career when I left school last year. Now I don't have time to do it as much as I would like to practice my skills, Luke
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if your a professional then you should know what the best application is to create a logo?
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if your a professional then you should know what the best application is to create a logo?
Yes I do, but Photoshop is adeqaute for what I needed to do and another reason why I used it was because all those blue/orange style gradients are Photoshop only so I couldnt have used them in Illustrator. If your trying to get on my nerves your succeeding! :)
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From the way your talking you sound quite expereinced in this department so why don't you post some of your work on here. I would genuienly like to see it :)
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if your a professional then you should know what the best application is to create a logo?
Yes I do, but Photoshop is adeqaute for what I needed to do and another reason why I used it was because all those blue/orange style gradients are Photoshop only so I couldnt have used them in Illustrator. If your trying to get on my nerves your succeeding! :)
I ain't trying to get on your nerves. Photoshop will produce logos but only to what size you create it at. the memory would be to big as well. how would you make a logo bigger if you needed it?
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if your a professional then you should know what the best application is to create a logo?
Yes I do, but Photoshop is adeqaute for what I needed to do and another reason why I used it was because all those blue/orange style gradients are Photoshop only so I couldnt have used them in Illustrator. If your trying to get on my nerves your succeeding! :)
you can gradient in illustrator as well. all the tools are still the same as photoshop
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Here is a very early example of some restoration I did. This pictures is of my dad when he was in the atc. This picture went through a house fire and as you can see is very badly damaged. As I said this is an early example and I didnt employ many of the skills I since learnt but it was on this computer so it was easier to upload onto Picasa!
Before:
(http://lh4.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_JPeqPB6I/AAAAAAAAAj4/7jpSJb8f2rg/600DPI.jpg?imgmax=512)
After:
(http://lh3.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_JROqPB7I/AAAAAAAAAkA/ZL2qVOhDEis/final%20copy.jpg?imgmax=512)
My speciality isnt logos, but I'm getting better at them all the time, infact I've been doing quite a few lately, Luke
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here luke a little insight into why you create logos and graphics in illustrator and why you use photop for editing pictures
Understand that Illustrator creates vector graphics and vector text. Vector graphics consist of lines and curves that contain mathematical objects called vectors.
Understand that Photoshop creates bitmapped graphics. Bitmaps consist of tiny dots of color. The eye fills in the spaces between the dots so the color appears to be solid. Bitmapped graphics are measured by the number of dots per unit - usually called dpi (dots per inch).
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That looks the business to me - as a layman
Rob ;D
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you can gradient in illustrator as well. all the tools are still the same as photoshop
I'm not talking about gradients, i'm talking about styles that can be applied to shapes. Heres where I got some of the styles for the ivesons logo:
http://dezinerfolio.com/2007/05/06/ultimate-web-20-layer-styles/
(http://www.dezinerfolio.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/web20layerstyles_l.jpg)
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Here is a very early example of some restoration I did. This pictures is of my dad when he was in the atc. This picture went through a house fire and as you can see is very badly damaged. As I said this is an early example and I didnt employ many of the skills I since learnt but it was on this computer so it was easier to upload onto Picasa!
Before:
(http://lh4.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_JPeqPB6I/AAAAAAAAAj4/7jpSJb8f2rg/600DPI.jpg?imgmax=512)
After:
(http://lh3.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_JROqPB7I/AAAAAAAAAkA/ZL2qVOhDEis/final%20copy.jpg?imgmax=512)
My speciality isnt logos, but I'm getting better at them all the time, infact I've been doing quite a few lately, Luke
Looks good, good work!!
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As I said post some of your own work, I'll be happy yo see it :) Luke
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you can gradient in illustrator as well. all the tools are still the same as photoshop
I'm not talking about gradients, i'm talking about styles that can be applied to shapes. Heres where I got some of the styles for the ivesons logo:
http://dezinerfolio.com/2007/05/06/ultimate-web-20-layer-styles/
(http://www.dezinerfolio.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/web20layerstyles_l.jpg)
I'm confused as to why you need styles for shapes, could you explain a little further? cheers
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when i'm on my mac i'll post some piccys up. i'm on my laptop so none stored on here
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(http://lh6.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_BA-qPB4I/AAAAAAAAAkg/HP-50Bg33UI/IVESONS%20REPLICA%20jpg.JPG?imgmax=512)
the style applied to the shapes/text creates that border and gradient around the edges, its sometmes a quicker way than designing your own stuff! Luke
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when i'm on my mac i'll post some piccys up.
I love looking at other peoples work, I learn most of my techniques from doing this. A brilliant site for looking at other poples photoshop/illustrator work is here:
http://www.deviantart.com/
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you mean like this in illustratotor luke?
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yes, that sort of thing! Thats not quite what I would want but your on the lines. I use the lazy mans option, Luke
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this is what i'm talking about Luke, it ain't the correct way. the star you've created will only print at what ever size you create it at. it will never go bigger. mine is a vector image which means you can print it out at 3000% and it will always be perfect. its the same as how fonts are made. never wondered why type is perfect when at 8pt or 300pt. its a vector image.
Its not a lecture just some handy hints. always use illustartor to create images never photoshop ;)
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Within my stars there are 2 types of gradients, down-up and outer-inner. All of this can be done easily in illustrator but I would have had to re-produce it and I wanted to do something quick and by using styles I can achieve the same thing with the click of a button instead of 3 clicks of a button. I wasnt going to spend the rest of today making a perfect match to the ivesons logo! I understand vector images perfectly, but thanks for the advice. I was taught many of my photoshop and some illustrator skills by a leading industry artist. He would design holograms for big companies and have to determine the way light would bounce off different layers to create a final holographic image!!! Luke
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well why question why he paid a £100 for it then? you said at first you recreated it in 10 mins but to achieve what they have done you have just stated it would of taken you all afternoon. so why question it?? ;D
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whos the leading industry artist luke?
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what I meant was he could have done it himself ( or got me to do it ) to a very similar standard in 10 minutes. You cant tell me his paid for one looks any better than mine. I was talking about this specific logo, if it was more complex I would have had too replicated it in Illustrator, Luke
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whos the leading industry artist luke?
I can tell you don't believe me! But I wouldnt post his name without permission which I doubt I could even get. He was teaching in a University in London but now teaches children with learning difficulties how to use Illustrator and Photoshop, thats why he taught me!!!!! He is a family friend! Luke
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A few month ago a guy posted his logo he had paid £100 for, well in 10 minutes I replicated it on Photoshop.
Heres his bought one:
(http://lh3.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_BAOqPB3I/AAAAAAAAAjM/tYloY0YcdgQ/large%5B1%5D.jpg?imgmax=512)
And heres mine, which I think looks better!:
(http://lh6.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_BA-qPB4I/AAAAAAAAAjU/2b-OpNIWlxA/IVESONS%20REPLICA%20jpg.JPG?imgmax=512)
actually luke i think there use of type looks better. the leading you used doesn't sit right its to spaced and the type face is more uniform.
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Well I don't. :)
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whos the leading industry artist luke?
I can tell you don't believe me! But I wouldnt post his name without permission which I doubt I could even get. He was teaching in a University in London but now teaches children with learning difficulties how to use Illustrator and Photoshop, thats why he taught me!!!!! He is a family friend! Luke
of course top secrect. you may be sued for mentioning his name ;)
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Its not a matter of being sued its a matter of privacy and manners, i don't want to discuss this topic anymore as I think your just being unkind to me, Luke
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you get defensive to quick, if you dish it learn to recieve it ;)
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you get defensive to quick, if you dish it learn to recieve it ;)
I get more than I dish, I do think nat has a point luke about the logo the first does look better.
I am not having a pop by the way.
I use both and can see both of your points, I prefer photoshop myself, but for print can be a space hog.
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you get defensive to quick, if you dish it learn to recieve it ;)
but for print can be a space hog.
and very limited in its use ;)
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Well I just like being friends with people and can't stand falling out. I think its one of those typical forum conflicts where people don't quite understand where the other party is coming from. I agree with nat that illustrator is better for logos and that wasnt what I was arguing about, and felt I was having to defend my decision to use Photoshop for just 10 mins. I just wanted to quickly replicate the ivesons logo to show that people can design nice ones themselves quite easily. I used Photoshop because I knew I had some nice styles I could use similar to the red ivesons ones, but I didnt so I used the blue ones instead!! Simple as that! I have Ilustrator and realise that Vector is needed for logos but in this case it wasnt. Do you understand now? :) Luke
ps. Its just my style but I prefer the lettering on my one because the original looks cluttered to me and too tight, I like modern open design!
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lol this turned into a bit of a debate!
Thanks for the comments about my logo anyway guys!
:)
Andy
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lol this turned into a bit of a debate!
Thanks for the comments about my logo anyway guys!
:)
Andy
lol, happy christmas guys ;)
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what logo's that Andy?
;D
oh yeah it was so long ago now i forgot ;)
Luke chill out my friend its all water under the bridge...just use illustrator next time ;)
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Andy, your design is brilliant, well done. You have proved what I wanted, that people can do a brilliant desing themselves for free! Luke
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So where do you get all these programs for doing these logos??
Dean
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Well nat:
(http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/04/sb_presentations/image/handshake.jpg)
friends!!!! Its sad I know ::) Luke
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Well nat:
(http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/04/sb_presentations/image/handshake.jpg)
friends!!!! Its sad I know ::) Luke
lol love it
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i wouldn't go that far ;D
only messing about...its cool my friend!! ;)
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Dean, they are called Photoshop and Illustrator, they are both made by Adobe:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adobe-Systems-Inc-Photoshop-CS3/dp/B000O17CQ0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1198513599&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adobe-Systems-Inc-Illustrator-CS3/dp/B000O17CCO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1198513761&sr=1-1
I have the CS2 versions of both, Luke
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Thanks luke
Dean
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just corrected my spelling mistake and did one in the same colours and one in an American flag style! If you are there Ivesons guy and you want any of these just ask!!
Original:
(http://lh3.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_BAOqPB3I/AAAAAAAAAjM/tYloY0YcdgQ/large%5B1%5D.jpg?imgmax=512)
Mine:
(http://lh4.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_xfeqPB8I/AAAAAAAAAlU/lxHKihh1V5Q/IVESONS%20NEW.JPG?imgmax=512)
Mine:
(http://lh6.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_xf-qPB9I/AAAAAAAAAlc/3i9F5f-RRzU/IVESONS%20NEW%202.JPG?imgmax=512)
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do you do insides?
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do you do insides?
? ??? ?
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just corrected my spelling mistake and did one in the same colours and one in an American flag style! If you are there Ivesons guy and you want any of these just ask!!
Original:
(http://lh3.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_BAOqPB3I/AAAAAAAAAjM/tYloY0YcdgQ/large%5B1%5D.jpg?imgmax=512)
Mine:
(http://lh4.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_xfeqPB8I/AAAAAAAAAlU/lxHKihh1V5Q/IVESONS%20NEW.JPG?imgmax=512)
Mine:
(http://lh6.google.co.uk/rupertthehair/R2_xf-qPB9I/AAAAAAAAAlc/3i9F5f-RRzU/IVESONS%20NEW%202.JPG?imgmax=512)
I like the last one the best, lettering a bit spaced out maybe :-\
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I like the first one the best the text sits better ;) :P
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Thats one I did earlier ;D!!! Luke
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he says he an exterior cleaning specialist, does he only do outsides?
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he says he an exterior cleaning specialist, does he only do outsides?
No, I do insides too when I'm asked!
;)
Andy
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Still not sure what your talking about Alex...sorry :) But if your reffering to Ivesons, I dont know what he does, Luke
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Just realised you were talking about Andy, sorry! Luke
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personally i wouldn't cut business out with stuff like that, some people will look at that and think "he doesn't do insides"
i would think
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At the moment I have all the domestic work I need/want.
In 2008 I will pushing solely for commercial work, but not only offering window cleaning... I will also offer pressure washing etc... Hence the "Exterior Cleaning Specialists" part of the logo... I didn't want to just tie myself down to people thinking window cleaning is all I do.
Andy