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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mitch2810 on December 22, 2007, 06:41:35 pm

Title: Best wand on the market
Post by: mitch2810 on December 22, 2007, 06:41:35 pm
Which wand, in your opinion is the best currently on the market?
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: from edge2edge on December 22, 2007, 07:05:22 pm
Merlins
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 22, 2007, 07:06:33 pm
I'd love to try the big Ti wand,

but I find my 12inch 2' 4 jet double 'D' with a glide does an good job

Mike
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: will_turton on December 22, 2007, 07:43:27 pm
ive got a double d wand for sale £100 if anyone wants one
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Len Gribble on December 22, 2007, 08:49:37 pm
I’ve got the standard Prochem and Ashby ones when I brought their machines (identical I think)

Did try a Ti once very light! Would have brought one but a tad expensive, also did have another one approval 4jet, couldn’t wait to give back (a lump of lard or streaky Danish) but did like the trigger mechanism.

Len
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Joe H on December 23, 2007, 10:49:29 am
I use and like the Wonderwand - the "pull" version, not the "push"
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: mark shannon on December 23, 2007, 12:45:19 pm
Like Len my wand of choice is the prochem 2 jet with a slot glide.
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Alan Brooker. Aqualink Carpet Care on December 23, 2007, 06:00:18 pm
A Titanium version of cfr's low profile roller wand would be my fav. - if it existed.
Don't you get cheesed off with blockages using a glide?
Alan
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: mark shannon on December 23, 2007, 06:40:46 pm
Rarely get any blockages with slot guide.
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Darren O on December 23, 2007, 06:45:21 pm
The Hydramaster wand that came with my Raptor dont no the name of it but its a realy good wand a lot better than the prochem glide master.
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Tony Gill Carpet Smart on December 23, 2007, 10:41:33 pm
Where can i get a slotted glide for a  12" wand???


CHEERS TONY
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Dave Roelants on December 23, 2007, 10:43:58 pm
The original Prochem Ti wand with a greenglide
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Paul_Ashworth on December 23, 2007, 10:58:50 pm
Tony,
Try a Greenglide from Hydramaster, they are excellent.

http://www.hydramaster.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=43&zenid=b64a40f6dd289e8e5126c85aaff290f8

Regards Paul
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Paul Kettless on December 23, 2007, 11:23:30 pm
I know that it is a love/hate relationship with these, but I use a wonderwand, and love it....
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Phillip Mold on December 24, 2007, 11:38:01 am
I too love my wonder wand, I do not be grudge the cost of it at all
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on December 24, 2007, 12:37:23 pm
Greenie said he was going to make a glide for a WW why not drop him a line?

Shaun
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: mark shannon on December 24, 2007, 01:09:41 pm
Tony

Cleansmart and Solutions used to sell Glides for  around £50 now i think only Hydramaster for £100
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Tony Gill Carpet Smart on December 24, 2007, 02:25:16 pm
CHEERS i will see what i can get in the new year i fancy the idea of the slotted glides.

CHEERS TONY
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Jeff Lydon/Greenie on December 28, 2007, 04:13:00 pm
Yes, the wonder wand glide does exist.
I will say though, if a guy is truely asking for the best wand, you would be of course talking about performance first, comfort second, and price third.

A 2" tube is a must, you can have less that is fine but know it's less and settle for second best.

You would want a very low profile wand head design with 4 jets minimum, and those would be 1" off of the carpet, and they would have anti-drip checkvalves, and the jets should be angled so that the spray was pointed towards the glide at roughly a 45º angle.

This same wand would have high flow jets for some serious rinsing, not "misting" of the carpet. The forward angled jets would also prevent overwetting and allow good rinsing of the face fibers without pentrating the backing causing extended dry times and wicking issues, it's not a small point it's an important point. This also allows for cleaning at higher pressures but safely, you also get a fair bit of aggitation form the higher pressure, that alone is worth it.

The vacuum head would have a high airflow design that equalized the pressure across the full width of the head, it would not be of an archaic design where the tube abruptly enters the rear of the head and forces all airflow to make a hard 90 degree turn, this old design makes for strong vacuum in the center and weaker vacuum on the edges, needless to say this is how most wands are made still to this day. So look for a "manifold" or chamber that equalizes the vacuum, you can see this on the backside of a titanium wand for example.

Without a doubt it would have a properly fitting glide, custom made for that wand, you would not put a Ford part on a Mercedes, yet that is what is being done with some glides still to this day, get one that fits perfectly, it's not an option, it's required to work properly.

Assuming you have the low profile wand basics worked out, now you can focus on comfort and safety, you would like to use heat some day, so you don't want a Metal solution line to burn your hand on and radiate heat from, you would want a thermoplastic solution line, preferably with a teflon core, a stainless braid and possibly a urethane jacket, but at least get a thermoplastic line. Don't settle for a ridgid metal sol. line, it's a safety issue, the first time you leave a 220ºf line on your forearm you'll be rememebering this post.

Finally you would want a comfortable easy pull short reach valve, this is a small detail that is very important, since you will squeezr this valve thousands of times, cutting the pressur required to actuate the valve and the distance to reach to access the trigger ends up being a huge help in reducing your daily work. while you are at it get a proper rubber sleeve for the handle of the wand, most come with a cheap vinyl slip on sleeve, these slip around when the tube gets warm, heat shrink poly tubing will serve the purpose better, oh and get a rubber dipped forward handle, it's just more comfortable than a plain jane naked metal handle.

Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: John Gregory on December 28, 2007, 04:35:18 pm
come on Mr Greenie where can we buy this magical wand of yours

john
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 28, 2007, 04:38:18 pm
and greenie, do you sell such a wand? :D :D

seriously I want the best wand available, if you sell them I want one.

Mike

Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Mark Lane-Matthews on December 28, 2007, 05:06:00 pm
Same as Dave TI with glide
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: will_turton on December 28, 2007, 08:25:35 pm
 yes i have one of jeffs wand, awesome bit off kit, got the 12inch headed one, serious drying times
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Len Gribble on December 28, 2007, 08:42:54 pm
Jeff

And I want one on approval and sterling (GBP) rate if I buy.


Len
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: *paul_moss on December 28, 2007, 08:59:53 pm
Had a go of Daves ti wand and its great. If it is similar to that then ill have one too.
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: stevegunn on December 28, 2007, 09:05:12 pm
Put a bypass valve on and I'll have one too
Title: Re: Best wand on the market
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on December 28, 2007, 09:35:16 pm
Me too!

Shaun