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Title: how much water can you carry
Post by: mark.laycock1@ntlw on December 13, 2007, 10:33:37 am
hi all how much water can we carry in vans? i ve just bid for a 1000ltr water barrel of ebay.
Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: pdl on December 13, 2007, 01:17:47 pm
depends on how much weight the van is classified  to carry
Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: LWC on December 13, 2007, 07:31:35 pm
i have a pug partner 800, it carries 800kg

its about a litre to a kg
Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: Jet Cleanse Ltd on December 13, 2007, 07:59:36 pm
I can 500L in a Nissan Primastar but that allows me to legally carry other items which are obviously needed, not everyone accounts for all the other equipment.  It soon adds up
Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: BDCS on December 13, 2007, 10:10:09 pm
Hello, the payload of your van includes yourself, fuel, tools, the weight of the tank and then the water. The ministry take a really dim view of overloaded vans but at least you can just dump some water ! If the ibc is not full they see it as an unstable load so you will need to baffle it by cutting lengths of tube and dropping them in the top so they all stand upright. Why are you intent on carrying water around - have you seen the price of diesel !!!!!!
Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: drive surgeon on December 13, 2007, 10:37:55 pm
its prob so he can use the water on site without needing a supply there!  am i right mark?     do other people drive around with the water in or just fill the tank on arrival at a site with a supply,?? ???  im not sure either, i was thinkin the same as mark to be honest when i get my bigger van??? ???
Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: steve doyle on December 14, 2007, 01:46:41 am
on a  rare occasion i fill my 1000ltr (vans not keen!) if close and dont have water supply on site, usually i keep it 1/5th  full, so there is a starting point when i get to jobs, i then run my machine from the van (so much faster/easier)and hook up the water.

If you keep to much water in it you will get about 10 miles to the gallon!
Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: drive surgeon on December 14, 2007, 09:44:14 am
steve do you just put your hosepiupe from the customers supply into the top of the tank then obviously?? :)     do you have a stop cock device in the tank or do you know it wont overflow by keeping it half full ish??
Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: drivewasher on December 14, 2007, 10:33:36 am
My tanks plumbed in with a ball valve to shut water off an overflow to outside in case of an overfill a vent so tank wont colapse when being emptied. and a direct fill conection with a tap on it. the taps to stop water glugging out when travelling thats off when not filling direct (no ball valve) The reason for direct fill is when custy has no outside tap and I have to use say the kitchen sink tap with a tap adapter there is no danger of hose blowing off and wetting kitchen when the ball valve shuts off on a full tank and the hose pressurises. Onlyuse that method about 10 times a year.
This winter I'm fitting a low level switch from van electrics to sound a claxon when water level gets to within a couple of inches from the outlet to pump so me pump dont suck air/run dry. Might even plug it to engine to stop engine on pump
Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: mark.laycock1@ntlw on December 14, 2007, 11:21:12 am
i have alot of rain water i use to clean small patios etc. this is just an idea to carry water. i hace seen alot of people doing it to wash cars etc.
Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: drive surgeon on December 14, 2007, 02:27:31 pm
no its a good idea and one i will be using next year!  godd luck guys for 2008!!! ;D
Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: mark.laycock1@ntlw on December 14, 2007, 07:24:19 pm
drive surgeon, where do you advrtise? my be we could help eachother out in 2008?/
Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: steve doyle on December 14, 2007, 07:36:14 pm
Yes,

I just put the hose in the top and away i go, its unlikely you will overflow unless you have a really powerfull hose, but you will gauge it before you put it in the tank and the tanks are so big you get plenty of time before it would overflow, just check levels after 10 mins and crack on.

Although you could make a system up as some others have, i just think its ott.
Water goes in, water comes out, what else is there?

The most likely thing is you will use more water than comes in, but thats why if youve got a 1/5 starting point you are ok, you will most likely get through an average job without having to stop, where you might stop 4/5 times normally.

seriously though  dont drive around with too much water in, your van will struggle and  your fuel economy will halve (Its not just the weight its the sloshing around).

The most important thing is to make sure you have some very heavy duty straps (cargo/ratchet type?) to secure the tank to the van floor, they should be wrapped round the tank (not just through a couple of bars of the frame) with the emphasis being that the tank cannot slide to the front of the van if you were in an accident. I dread to think the forces involved even at 30 mph (>10 tonns?) should you be in an accident. It would almost certainly crush you.

Ive had a quick look and these guys seem to be decent enough, you need a couple of sets. if anyone knows of heavier duty maybe they can post details.

www.rhtltd.co.uk/productdetail.php?id=3&cid=10



Title: Re: how much water can you carry
Post by: mike peters on December 21, 2007, 02:56:39 pm
some clever chap across the channel decided on a decimal counting structure  about 300 years ago, and within that they worked out that 1 ltr of water will weigh 1kg. add the weight of the container..... Hey presto, one thousand ltrs = 1 ton. 250 ltrs = 250kgs. Just got to figure what a KG is in old money and everyone will understand???? confused- manchester