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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Phillip Mold on December 08, 2007, 12:39:03 pm

Title: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: Phillip Mold on December 08, 2007, 12:39:03 pm
Wheres the cheapest place to buy new?
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: Phillip Mold on December 08, 2007, 12:41:05 pm
25' At Ashbys is £110 + VAT
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: liahona on December 08, 2007, 10:22:02 pm
Phillip, are you sure about that price?  Not that I have any idea as I dont deal with Ashby's just wondered as  for that price I could get almost 4,  50ft, 3/8, 3000 psi hoses.  They have 3/8's male ends so need qd's but even still, 25ft for £110, they are having a laugh.

At those prices I should sell mine?

Best, Dave.
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: robert stubbs on December 09, 2007, 09:20:48 am
http://www.worldofclean.co.uk/index.php?categoryID=117


http://www.aandmcsstore.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Accessories_14.html

http://www.carpet-cleaning-equipment.co.uk/product_details_31.htm
http://www.cleansmartsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/Vacuum_&_Solution_Hoses.html
http://www.amtechuk.biz/hoses.php
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: liahona on December 09, 2007, 10:30:01 am
At a and m's prices for 50ft of high pressure solution hose I could get 4 of the same in 3/8 hose.  Something is not right somewhere.  Again my prices are without q/d's but they are only a few quid anyway.

Best, Dave.
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: Phillip Mold on December 09, 2007, 12:56:04 pm
Just to clarify, I m looking for 1.5 inch vac hose and high pressure solution hose, none of the sites shown seem to beat Ashbys £110 + vat for 25 feet.

Unless of course I've missed something, in which case I apologise.
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: colin thomas on December 09, 2007, 04:52:06 pm
dave, where do you get your solution hose from then? if it's the usa what is the total cost including delivery.

colin
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: liahona on December 09, 2007, 05:15:18 pm
Yes it is from the states.  I will look into it as I buy so much stuff from there the hoses just get lost with other items.

Best, Dave.
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: Buster Ingram on December 09, 2007, 07:57:49 pm
Hi Dave,
After my short stint at Woodbridge Commercial I saw what they paid for USA  Goodyear  Neptune high pressure hose and I can tell you it was pennies.
Dave if you have a supplier in the States it may be worth your while bringing a few lengths over and sell onto the guy's here on the board?
USA Goodyear Neptune hose is by far the best to use on T/M or portable machine rather than some of the inferior stuff I have seen kicking about.
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: Kev Loomes on December 09, 2007, 08:11:17 pm
http://cgi.ebay.com/Carpet-Cleaning-Solution-Hose-25-Good-Year_W0QQitemZ310006004145QQihZ021QQcategoryZ42926QQcmdZViewItem  Buy in the US for approx £18.00  :o

Or over here http://www.worldofclean.co.uk/index.php?productID=386 for £85.00 (better than £110.00!)

Google it  ;)
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: jewell on December 09, 2007, 08:35:31 pm
hi phil

        Try woodbridge wcsuk.com.Like dave said only sell decent hose goodyear neptune hose.Unlikey to be beaten on price.
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: francis on December 09, 2007, 09:13:37 pm
Not so sure that Goodyear Neptune is rated that highly in the States
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: liahona on December 09, 2007, 10:13:38 pm
Francis, then you would be mistaken as it is by choice still the number one hose used.

I use 3/8's hoses but these are harder to get now as most people prefer the easier to use 1/4 inch.  However as you know I prefer the best and the larger hose moves 40% more volume of water so is much more efficient.

Best, Dave.

P.S. Did you see the lie detector for sale on the site Kev posted......
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: elliott cleaning on December 09, 2007, 10:29:35 pm
Dave
Have you tried the Italian Tornado hoses. Foot for foot not as cheap as Goodyear Neptune, but if you rinse with heat will last twice as long.  If you are a cold water rinser, might as well use garden hose at the pressure used
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: elliott cleaning on December 09, 2007, 10:38:24 pm
Dave
When you say you use 3/8" hose but hard to get hold of.   Isn't this pretty standard size hose for pressure washers & widely available?
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: liahona on December 09, 2007, 10:39:08 pm
elliott, no I havent.  But I have hoses that I have had for over 10 years with high heat and they still perform.  Before I get jumped over these hoses stay outside the property and are used when I may have maybe 2 or 300 feet just to get into a house.

If you are a cold water rinser, may as well not clean, uh oh, here goes.

Best, Dave

P.S. Just saw your other question.

Yes but pressure washers usually are wire braded and "stiff" in comparison.  Not only that but are black and marking unlike the other hoses I or we all use.....
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: elliott cleaning on December 09, 2007, 10:55:34 pm
Dave
Bear with me on this one just a bit longer. Getting late & must be slowing down.

You use 3/8" high pressure high heat non marking hose, not wire braided, is it steel braid?  You only run this externally to the house.  What do you switch to then & why?
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: liahona on December 09, 2007, 11:16:31 pm
elliott, oooops I just re-read my postings and it was a bit misleading.  I use the same hoses everywhere, braided, just the really old ones out side the house if I have a big run to get to the door, window, sky lite, whatever it may be that I gain access.  My theory is that if a hose is going to blow then it will be my older ones.  Even though I re-do the ends often enough for it not to be the ends to blow. 

I do have a couple of hoses that are cloth braided but they are used for the lead hose from the wand.

Of course all the truck mount hoses, those that are integral to the machine are cloth braided.

Best, Dave.
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: Phillip Mold on December 09, 2007, 11:49:41 pm
ooops peeps, its £110 for vac and solution hose, not just one!
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: Joe H on December 10, 2007, 08:22:01 am
I had spotted that Phillip (thought you knew as you posted the price.
Makes it a good deal compared with all the others.
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: Phillip Mold on December 10, 2007, 09:47:29 am
Thanks Joe, thought I must have missed something!
Title: Re: High presure solution/vac Hose
Post by: Jeff Lydon/Greenie on December 10, 2007, 10:36:59 pm
I don't know where to start.... ::)

GoodYear was a good basic hose once upon a time.  It is simply no longer true, save your money.

The materials used nowadays are cheaper (in quality) and simply don't hold up.

Unless you need to do regular pressure washing, you might as well go with a lower pressure rated hose that can handle heat.

Avoiding a hose with steel braid is just a good idea if you only need 400-1200 psi for your daily work, and if there is no steel in the hose, there will be no rust, and if there is no rust, the flexing of the end at the wand won't be destructive to the integral strength of the rusty hose braid.

It's when this steel is compromised that the hoses become a liability, couple that with the inner rubber of the core being degraded by heat and chemistry and you will soon experience the dreaded "black death", a whole lot of fun on a light colored wool carpet.

Thermoplastic hoses will outlast rubber/steel hoses several times with their nylon core and poly braid, plus they have a Urethane sheath, very slippery on carpet and chemically resistant.

They just don't have the high pressure capabilities, usually max out at about 1750 psi, and 230ºf.

This is a different animal, but 3/8" hose doesn't flow any more than 1/4" hose if you use the same restrictive jet(s) on your wand, you need to open your jets up to make use of larger hose, it can help to preserve operating pressure, but that is easily overcome by adjusting up 50 psi at the truck, so it's a non issue.