Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 16, 2004, 05:15:49 pm
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550 sq yards of medium soiled retaurant carpet and about 200 pieces of chewing gum.
Wool ax, hardly any furniture to move.
Shaun
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chewing gum takes a 30sec a wad so £120 plus 550 x £1.40 = £770 so say £900 for a round number
now lets here it from all the guys who'll charge £3 a yard so would want 2k ( but would get nothing because they would'nt get the job ;) ;)
Mike
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You wouldn't charge domestic rate on a commercial carpet,Shaun knows that.
My charge would be £850.00
(That Mikes expensive isn't he ;D)
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Me too, £850 + vat
cheers
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Shaun,
With the advantage of seeing the carpet, how many man hours do you think you will need??
Paul
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carpet could be cleaned in a long day and chewing gum extra.
Shaun
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In that case it sounds like a profitable days work if you get the kind of money the other guys are suggesting ;D
Make sure you sell your self and your quality well so they dont go splash and dash.
What methods/chems do you plan to use if successful in securing the job?
Paul
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solutions have all the answers they even gave me the 6 winning lottery numbers for Saturday's lottery!
May not need to do that job after all!!!!
Shaun
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Paul would you prefer to work unprofitable days?
' a long day' say 10 hours (not including the gum removal) so i'm sugesting £77 an hour not an over the top price concidering shaun will be using a top of the range truckmount which need to be paid for!
Mike
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Guys you are right Mike is very dear I would only charge £899 for a job like that.
paul
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Did you consider offering an option to pad clean the carpet as apposed HWE?? I have recently done quite a bit of charlie padding with solutions micro splitters with great results, and speedy coverage.
this may get you the job if they are shopping around
Paul
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It is paid for you cheeky :-X :-X :-X
I am going to get some Kosovans to do the Chewing gum so it leaves me to clean away, so £977 will be my quote.
£77 coming from 2 x 7up cans I had in my garage.
Shaun
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Mike,
I worked for ten years as an engineer which seemed fairly unprofitable!!
£77 an hour sounds great if you can get it :-\
Paul
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Don't forget the prices so far are from people who don't need the work ;) there's beens times in the past when I'd work for £80 a day.
there'll be carpet cleaner reading this who'd charge £250 for this job and would be happy for it
Mike
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My first first reaction was Texatherm may work well but then again would not solve the gum residue problem.
What sq yards per hours are we basing these prices on? Do this include pre-vac
thanks
Mark
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Mike you lie
The others guys said you have worked in the early days for only 5 shillings a day ;)
Paul
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To shift the gum residue when using charlie pads i mist on a little eco spotter and remove residue with a terry towel prior to padding.
Paul
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definately needs pre vac, I guess I could do 60-80 yards an hour, some areas may need a second go but as I have already stated it's not heavily soiled.
Shaun
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I charge around £4.90 per hour for commercial work, so taking into account the fact that the job would probably take a full day, I would be looking at charging about £49.00.
Domestic Prices
3 Piece Suite - £15.23
Lounge Carpet - £6.29
Bedroom -£4.82
Kitchen - £3.21
Full House - £38.91
Please feel free to use this information a guide.
Thanks
Pete
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Is this the job you offered me Shaun, with pay of £150.00??
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I would have qouted £750
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I sometimes find these pricing issues to be comical. OK, I'm coming from a position of not needing to chase work, so I'm feeling secure. So here's my view on this scenario.
As an individual businessman, you know the standards you work to. You know how much effort, investment, technology and knowledge it has taken you to achieve this position. You have put a value on your services. You are now putting yourself in a position whereby you may be prepared to lower the value of your service in order to make a sale (ie you want to achieve the largest return possible, but are prepared to lower your price to obtain the work).
For me, with my set up, this type of work is very demanding. Soiling levels are higher than normal. Gum is a time consuming issue. The hours worked are usually unsociable. Extra labour and costs are frequently required to complete the work within the timeframe. You will frequently be spending the following day in bed. So, with all these extra demands, I would be tempted to charge a premium rather than discount. I would sell firstly on quality. That's imperative. Also quote a lower price for following up with a planned maintenance program. With your initial clean, you may need to move downwards a little on price, but not too much. For everthing you give, you want something in return. For example, you could work the unsociable hours without charging a premium. Ditto the extra labour costs for completion within a limited time frame. You may offer X% discount for payment in 7 days or upon completion. Maybe a little too if the floor is cleared of all furnishings etc. But to offer a lower price in order to win on price is, for me, a no no. That is not the way to build a sustainable business or attract the type of customers I want.
Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
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Ken
SPOT ON COMMENT.
Paul
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doesn't answer the question though Ken
What would your price have been.
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To be honest Trevor, I'm not interested in this type of work. I'd politely decline for myself but would sub it out to one of my T/M colleagues. My charge would be £1500 for restoration and after completion and having seen the results about £600 to £750 at probably six months to maintain the standard if suitable for Dry Fusion.
Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
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Ken
My opinion is that your attitude to pricing is correct in theory but you mapped out your business idea in your first paragraph ie. in business a long time, no advertising, no need for growth, low overheads, no need to aquire new business.
On the other hand theres people like me who are only in business 3 years, need to advertise, want to grow year on year by a good margin, growing overheads and need new business. So my opinion is to price to get the job and make money. I dont need £70 per hour to make money more like £40 (9-5pm). If things are quiet then I may lower this figure and the job is still profitable, probably more so as theres no travelling time, set-up time etc as there would be with 4 residential jobs.
The problem with pricing is the people who charge £40 for a suite and take 2.5 hours at it and do a good job. No sales tactic we use can ever overcome this.
Mark
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Shaun
Let me know the name of the restaurant I will male sure I won’t eat their medium soil I will put up with but 200 bit of gum wonder what are the kitchens like. ???
Len