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Title: Gaining new customers at this time of year?
Post by: Kwackers on November 28, 2007, 06:08:08 pm
Hello,

Just wondered what peoples experiences are this time of year.

I've done a couple of Leaflet drops that i didn't really get much from to be honest, so thinking of laying off it untill end of january.

I've got a part time job to cover expenses etc.

Thanks
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: Kev R on November 28, 2007, 06:26:55 pm
The phone is dead, the weather is bad, not much hope of new custom until march in my experience. People have more pressing financial pressures like xmas and then In January/ february paying back the credit card. When the sun sits low in the sky at he end of march/april then they will notice the state their windows are in and then the phone will ring and of course canvassing is more than worth it.  Thats for residential work commercial work seems to come whenever no rhyme or reason.

Thats my experience of course.  ;)
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: pingu on November 28, 2007, 06:32:34 pm
Leaflets and canvassing can be done anytime of year.....IMHO.....I will be out tommorow putting out leaflets...aprox 200...

The thing about leaflets is that you never know who or when they will call...

Leaflets\word of mouth have brought me 104 new customers this year alone (I do not canvass)...I suppose the quick answer is ...leaflet and canvass all year long.

Dave.
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: windowwashers on November 28, 2007, 06:38:41 pm
we still put them out aswell at this time of year I pick up loads of new work,

Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: Sanity on November 28, 2007, 06:43:44 pm
Delivered 200 leaflets last week, cos the weather was too cold to be out...

Got 4 new customers and have had another 5 call me from word of mouth in the past week.

Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: supernova77 on November 28, 2007, 06:47:33 pm
In my experience there are customers out there all year round!

Doorknock, don't just leaflet!

Andy
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: windowwashers on November 28, 2007, 06:49:11 pm
In my experience there are customers out there all year round!

Doorknock, don't just leaflet!

Andy
Andy I do very well from leaflet alone, dont have time to doorknock
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: supernova77 on November 28, 2007, 06:54:46 pm
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Andy I do very well from leaflet alone, dont have time to doorknock

We probably all have our favourite methods... I built my entire round by doorknocking.

Andy
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: nat on November 28, 2007, 06:59:19 pm
door knocking is definatly the quickest way to build up but i always have a steady trickle of work coming in from other various media.

always found it ok this time of year for canvassing just becareful of the one off clean brigade just before christmas ;)
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: windowwashers on November 28, 2007, 07:05:35 pm
I also think door knocking is the quickest way to get custom (not always good custom) leaflets are slower than doorknocking but gives good results IMO.

I also get work from my websites, word of mouth ect etc.

Xmas brigade always get charged more this time of year regardless if I think they will cancel after christmas or not, if people do not pay the premium at this time of year they can wait 5 weeks and pay standard rates I do give them the choice, either way is fine with me.
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: john tomkins on November 28, 2007, 07:20:39 pm
Last year when I hadn't long started I was putting out leaflets  this time of year and got these new customers
Oct   19 new
Nov  18 new
Dec    9 new
Jan   17 new
Feb   14 new

Just around the Christmas week it dried up a bit but this was leaflets only, if you knock then you'll certainly get more but I prefered to just leaflet, don't even leaflet now and they still come in.
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: mark dew on November 28, 2007, 10:45:39 pm
i'm in my 4th year and the winter time has seemed the best time each year for me to pick up new work.
I do probably get more work the rest of year but the winter customers have been dedicated and better quality jobs.
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: Mr.G on November 29, 2007, 01:15:22 am
I've always found december's the worst time for new customers, I'd wait till january if I was you, otherwise you'll have to go back and target the same people again...
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on November 29, 2007, 08:35:54 am
Leaflets work best if you can find an estate that doesn't have a window cleaner or a very bad one and then post the leaflets through on a really sunny Saturday or Sunday late afternoon when the winter sun is highlighting the dirty windows.  You do get more from door knocking though.

Simon.
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: Londoner on November 29, 2007, 09:54:16 am
You never know how things will go with leaflets. Thats why I prefer them to door knocking. You can deliver a load of leaflets now and get a response weeks, months or even years later.
The best approach with leaflets is to deliver constantly a certain number every week say 250 or 300 and just keep banging away week after week. Don't worry about results, that will come.
Leaflets don't have to be flashy of expensive. I think they are better if they are not.

I find with door knocking you get more customers who say yes initially but a lot of them are air heads who lose interest or lack the commitment or the money and mess you about later.
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: geefree on November 29, 2007, 10:32:46 am
doing pretty good at this time of year with leaflets, as all the dole boys shiver and hibernate until spring, so i get and keep all their customers.  ;D
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: Rogue Trader on November 29, 2007, 10:43:27 am
I have picked up loads of work in the past few weeks from door knocking, leafletting (weekends) and phone calls......this is a good way to get customers at \this time of year. Just open the phone book and start from a, 2 hours evry evening 6-8pm and believe me , you will have plenty of customers/quotes and referrals to keep you going til the spring.
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: MSTAV on November 29, 2007, 11:28:14 am
lol gazza
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: Jon-scwindows on November 29, 2007, 11:47:01 am
just put out about 30 flyers without canvassing around my road this morning and got 1 so far- the guys says he doesnt know what to get his mother as a present, so he wants me to do her windows for a year or so.
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: alan andrewswestsi on November 29, 2007, 01:25:50 pm
hi matt , what do you say on the phone to potential custies , i usually door knock but have often wondered how it would work with telesales cheers alan
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: Londoner on November 29, 2007, 05:09:37 pm
I have picked up loads of work in the past few weeks from door knocking, leafletting (weekends) and phone calls......this is a good way to get customers at \this time of year. Just open the phone book and start from a, 2 hours evry evening 6-8pm and believe me , you will have plenty of customers/quotes and referrals to keep you going til the spring.

Make sure you are on one of those phone tarriffs that gives you free calls after 6pm
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: Spruce on November 29, 2007, 05:23:15 pm
Another way is to ask your customers if any of their friends need a good window cleaner. We have picked up a fair bit with referrals.
Spruce
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: Rogue Trader on November 30, 2007, 08:13:07 pm
hi matt , what do you say on the phone to potential custies , i usually door knock but have often wondered how it would work with telesales cheers alan

Hello Alan ,

Just say " Hello this is alan calling from a window CLEANING company called(name of your company) just calling to see if you need a w/c. If yes take their address and go and quote at the weekend , if you do it every night of the week you should have a list of quotes to do on a sat/sun.
Even though this is very much a scatter gun approach i have found it to be really successful , when you get a bite canvass the rest of the road ;D
Title: Re: Gaining new customers at this time of year?
Post by: jimbowash on December 18, 2007, 06:59:22 pm
Hi All.

Jim here. I get customers all year round, even in winter. I find that the wording on the leaflet you drop through doors has a big impact on whether you get customers or not. Make the invitation seem urgent that they ring you right away-it works. If I run low on work I usually find guttercleaning goes down well in winter. I'm currently writeing a manual on the subject.
Every success
Jim :-X
Title: Re: Gaining new customers at this time of year?
Post by: windowwashers on December 18, 2007, 07:03:24 pm
Hi All.

Jim here. I get customers all year round, even in winter. I find that the wording on the leaflet you drop through doors has a big impact on whether you get customers or not. Make the invitation seem urgent that they ring you right away-it works. If I run low on work I usually find guttercleaning goes down well in winter. I'm currently writeing a manual on the subject.Every success
Jim :-X
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Title: Re: Gaining new customers at this time of year?
Post by: Dale Smith on December 18, 2007, 07:22:11 pm
I have tried both, and the door knocking is much more succesful. We are picking up about 3/4 a day at the moment, and quoting a number of others which hopefully will contact us in Jan.
Leaflets are worth doing, but following it up with door knocking works a treat.
Title: Re: Gaining Customers?
Post by: windowwashers on December 18, 2007, 07:27:41 pm
Leaflets work best if you can find an estate that doesn't have a window cleaner or a very bad one and then post the leaflets through on a really sunny Saturday or Sunday late afternoon when the winter sun is highlighting the dirty windows.  You do get more from door knocking though.

Simon.
agree that sat, sunday late morning early afternoon is best time to leaflet, giving the letter box a little extra help closing so they come to the door for the leaflet.

Ian
Title: Re: Gaining new customers at this time of year?
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on December 18, 2007, 07:59:35 pm
i found that local shops  are a great place to put up a leaflet you know newsagents hairdressers etc. one leaflet goes a long way worked a treat for me got to the point that i had to go back and ask for them to be taken down in some areas
Title: Re: Gaining new customers at this time of year?
Post by: Jon-scwindows on December 18, 2007, 09:29:05 pm
i posted about 600 flyers today- took all day - lets see what happens
Title: Re: Gaining new customers at this time of year?
Post by: Paul Coleman on December 19, 2007, 03:00:14 am
I used to door knock but you never know if the side gate is padlocked when you do that (obviously you can't try it before you knock).  So I drop leaflets instead these days.  On the back of the leaflet I have the following:-


r  we acknowledge that a good, reliable customer
deserves a quality, reliable service. Some
customers have been with us since the early
1990s. Let our record speak for itself.
 the cleaning would normally take place at
approximately six weekly intervals
 there would need to be reasonable access
around the outside of the property without
needing to make an appointment
 it is the customer’s responsibility to ensure that
payment is made within fourteen days of the
clean as we do not return to make doorstep
collections
 in order to supply the service in a reliable
manner, it is sometimes necessary to clean in
inclement weather
 we take our responsibilities seriously and
endeavour to work in a manner that is safe for
both ourselves, the customer, and the public.
We also carry a public liability insurance
policy in the unlikely event that a problem
occurs.

The "r"s are bullet points on the flyer but it hasn't translated very well onto here.  Note the third item down regarding access.
Title: Re: Gaining new customers at this time of year?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 19, 2007, 07:29:38 pm
Couldn't you sleep Shiner?
Title: Re: Gaining new customers at this time of year?
Post by: Paul Coleman on December 19, 2007, 10:53:05 pm
Couldn't you sleep Shiner?

Woke up really early.  Pottered around for an hour or so.  Went back to sleep OK afterwards though.  I find my sleep pattern can be quite erratic when I'm under stress - which I have been lately.  It settles down again when I'm more relaxed.
Title: Re: Gaining new customers at this time of year?
Post by: xxmattyxx on December 20, 2007, 09:45:15 am

The "r"s are bullet points on the flyer but it hasn't translated very well onto here.  Note the third item down regarding access.


Oh, right I see, I fort u woz troin to zound wezt counttree loike  ;D
Title: Re: Gaining new customers at this time of year?
Post by: Jon-scwindows on December 20, 2007, 05:28:28 pm
i posted about 600 flyers today- took all day - lets see what happens

1 new customer so far through posting these flyers in 2 days - they used my flyer by going through my website to get a quote.