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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: malc on November 28, 2007, 04:35:32 pm

Title: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: malc on November 28, 2007, 04:35:32 pm
ive got a ninja 135 psi water pump just woundering if any body knows if a bigger pump will fit 200 psi ish was looking at ashbys 400 psi but seems expensive and if so where to get one from
cheers
malc
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: Mike Halliday on November 28, 2007, 04:58:10 pm
buy this;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/400psi-Pumptec-205V-Pump-Motor-Complete-NEW_W0QQitemZ200178646061QQihZ010QQcategoryZ43015QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mike
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: spencer davies on November 28, 2007, 04:58:15 pm
The water pump's in our 450 psi machines are much bigger than the 100-125 psi pumps found in many, I think you may find that fitting them in is the issue, along with water recovery, your vac motors need the ability to recover the extra water used.

S
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: John Milnes on November 28, 2007, 06:31:54 pm
This comes as a complete kit inc pipework, pressure guage, mounting etc.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=44555.0#msg358056

John
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: malc on November 28, 2007, 07:15:12 pm
cheers mike for your help the 400psi looks like the ones that ashbys are selling and fitting could any body shed some light on this seen one but it was a few years ago and cheers john looking for that thred i new somebody had put a 200 ish psi in a ninja has it been reliable john
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: John Milnes on November 28, 2007, 09:09:41 pm
Malc,
can't comment on the 200 psi reliability as it's in my back up machine and doesent run much, but it will be the same design as my 400 psi Ninja wich is very reliable and has run for 18 months without attention.

I have just stripped the pump head on the 400 psi and all is well. Cleaned, checked for wear and regreased the piston etc, very easy to do.

I have found the 400 psi to be much more reliable and robust than the 135 diaphragm pumps.

Ashbys will convert to the 400 psi for around £500. Better done by Ashbys as it can be quite involved.

I did the 200psi conversion myself, took about a day....much more work than it looks, fitting extra elbows and connectors etc and it says on the instructions, fitted in one hour  :o

John
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: Mike Halliday on November 28, 2007, 09:46:16 pm
I had a raptor and this is the same pump as fitted in that.

remember you'll need to buy an uploader(£23) and at least one high pressure crimped hose. like john said they are a little bit complicated to plumb in especially if you haven't done it before.

Mike

Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: malc on November 29, 2007, 05:30:05 pm
thanks for the info guys
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: Tony Gill Carpet Smart on December 20, 2007, 10:46:12 pm
MIKE HALLIDAY. BIG BIG THANKS
Great link for pump & motor assy on ebay Mike got it for 102 quid brand new exact same as one in my ninja pumptec 205v 400psi.

CHEERS TONY
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 20, 2007, 11:59:13 pm
Don't thank me too fast, I was bidding against you :D :D

I thought I'd bid  £100 just to keep it as a spare. glad you're happy with it & got it for such a good price.

Mike
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: Ian Gourlay on December 21, 2007, 06:45:04 am
What puzzles me is why would anyone sell a new one for £102 is there that much profit on them
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: Tony Gill Carpet Smart on December 21, 2007, 08:09:02 am
Ian i would agree with you i can,t either but i'm not complaining, the same guy has sold some new wand's cheap to.

CHEERS TONY
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: paul wright on December 21, 2007, 08:28:50 am
thats a steal    ashbys want nearly £600 for complete 400 kit,  or £345 plus vat for just the pump  :o
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: Alan Brooker. Aqualink Carpet Care on December 21, 2007, 09:57:27 am
I found out some interesting stats about this pump. It only spits out 3.6 lpm at with the Fasco motor at 300watt draw. So on a triple jet wand you can never use more than 01 tips.
In the new year I'm changing the cam to a 220 stroke and Pumptecs M4 368watt motor - this will give me 6.2 lpm and 300psi which I think will speed my HWE work up no end.
If it aint broke... Mess around with it till it is, and then fix it :D
Alan
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: Tony Gill Carpet Smart on December 21, 2007, 12:27:09 pm
BET YOU CAN'T GET IT FOR £102 ha haha ha only use a two jet wand would be cheaper than all that.

CHEERS TONY
Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: spindle on December 21, 2007, 03:44:52 pm
spoke to mr ashby this morning about possiblites of up grading to 400.

said it was not just a matter of changing pump but different hoses etc....

quoted £450+ VAT

Title: Re: ninja bigger water pump
Post by: paul wright on December 21, 2007, 06:29:23 pm
yes but not fitted