Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: L.J.Thorpe on November 20, 2007, 02:35:38 pm
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i have just read the post "first days wfp ing" you know the one with all the nice seaside pics posted by gofish. He says he used 25 litres to do this house on first clean and i find this unbelievable not that i dont believe what he is saying just that it makes me wonder if i am doing something wrong cos i would get through closer to 50 ltrs on a house that size. I have a diy trolley using 60 psi surflo 60 mtrs microbore and varistream use wfp up and down and even on bungalows no such thing as typical house but i use at least 250ltrs a day any way to cut this down i find skimping on the rinse can cause trouble so dont like to most my custs on 6th clean some 7th very happy with system but if can cut water use would be nice any ideas ???
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It does seem a low amount for a first clean but possible
Do you have a flow controller at your pole or a trigger to stop the flow between windows 250 ltrs per day seems to be a reasonable amount of water to use for a days work if you are doing a full day
Dean
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Everybody does it differently. I don't know how much water I would use on such a job, I work by results. If it "feels" right, I guess I'm using enough water - making sure the glass and frames are thoroughly scrubbed and enough water runs down while I'm rinsing so I feel confident the job's done properly. I fill my 400l tank every day, but lots of times I only use half to two thirds of it. I also judge by how fast the water comes out of the jets - if it "bounces" off the glass there's too much flow, if I have to sweep back and forward several times to rinse properly, there's not enough.
Some people can do a whole days work on 150l, others need 500. The only criterion is the result - if the glass/frames etc are clean and without spotting, then you're using enough - and maybe too much - water. If they're not clean, you probably need to use more (or look to your technique ::))
Cheers,
Ian
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250 litres for a full day of domestic work is about right. I wouldn't worry. Just get yourself a van mounted tank and save yourself the hard work of lugging a trolley around.
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Sorrry to hijack but......................
Alex is there anybody in the office today have been trying to get hold of Kirsty all afternoon?
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Sorry Alistair, only just seen your post. Kirsty isn't in the office this afternoon as far as I know. Email me your telephone number and I can get back to you. Use the email on my profile.
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Alex
You got mail
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dean ; i only have a tap which fits in holster on my belt always switch off flow between windows and also if scrubbing stubborn marks having soaked first usually set varistream about 3 quarters max and scrub with tap part open then rinse fully open what is a trigger is it just on/off or can it be opened gradually like a tap can cos if its a tough and robust piece of gear i might be interested as i am on tap number 4 in 8 mths alex:a tank would be next step probably spring next year but will still keep trolley for added versatility and because i built it so high sentimental value.also ihave a spare pump ready for a van mount it is one of your flojet 100psi it broke down after a weeks use (diaphragm) but cleghorn waring replaced it foc so i need to know if it works with a varistream (i bet you will say it does not need one) also what is best way to connect the hose out from trolley to reel at present i use hozelock type with adapter to fit two females together then it sleeves down to micro on the reel any ideas on alternatives that are quick to connect but more important dont leak as this is weakest point of my system
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ian any advice on technique appreciated this is how i doit; first wet brush across top frame avoiding vents water off or barely on then water on scrub glass and sides of frame /downrights then rinse carefully near top frame trying not to spray above it and not using too much water then rinse glass and side frames thoroughly finally wipe bottom frame and sill
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i use between 100 and 150 L a day
just doing upstairs and the windows with bush's / tree's infront of them
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Lyns, Do you have Fan / Pencils. This is how i do it..
Very top frame first and very very quickly just to get the dust off really
All the outer frame then cross pieces (if Any)
Then glass a good scrub
then rince glass only
And last give the sill a wipe with the brush...
Jobs a goodun
Marcus...
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Don`t worry about how much water your using,just get em clean.I find with backpack or trolley your scrimp on water and that can lead to trouble,always looking at the trolley-backpack thinking quick i`m nearly dry.
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alex:a tank would be next step probably spring next year but will still keep trolley for added versatility and because i built it so high sentimental value.also ihave a spare pump ready for a van mount it is one of your flojet 100psi it broke down after a weeks use (diaphragm) but cleghorn waring replaced it foc so i need to know if it works with a varistream (i bet you will say it does not need one) also what is best way to connect the hose out from trolley to reel at present i use hozelock type with adapter to fit two females together then it sleeves down to micro on the reel any ideas on alternatives that are quick to connect but more important dont leak as this is weakest point of my system
With a 100psi Flojet you really do not need a Varistream, if you use it with a 100 metre reel of microbore. If you use it with just 60m then a Varistream or an Eco-Flow would be useful. The most reliable (leak-free) method is to use a hozelock connector on the hose from your pump which connects to a metal hose reel with a swivel angle connector fitted. You then fit the microbore to the reel with an adapter kit.
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Just trying to see how low you can get, all today with my minimalist sysetem I used 200ml/min through 4 pencil jets.
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i have just read the post "first days wfp ing" you know the one with all the nice seaside pics posted by gofish. He says he used 25 litres to do this house on first clean and i find this unbelievable not that i dont believe what he is saying just that it makes me wonder if i am doing something wrong cos i would get through closer to 50 ltrs on a house that size. I have a diy trolley using 60 psi surflo 60 mtrs microbore and varistream use wfp up and down and even on bungalows no such thing as typical house but i use at least 250ltrs a day any way to cut this down i find skimping on the rinse can cause trouble so dont like to most my custs on 6th clean some 7th very happy with system but if can cut water use would be nice any ideas ???
I use the same system as you, but only half your hose lengh.
I too will get through 250 litres on a full day.
Using less makes for longer rinsing.
With daylight at a premium, a higher flow rate gets the job done faster. Dai
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thanks for that everyone nice to get abit of feedback not that i have any complaints about the way everything works just that only idiots never ask questions.seems i was fairly close to what most people are using with similar set ups cheers all ;D Alex thanks for that if ihave any money left after xmas i will have to get one. marcus;pencils mate never have tried fans but idea does not grab me sound a bit hit and miss to me by the way dont chuck that old water butt out i will get round to picking it up honest
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Its still there waiting for you ... ::)
ive got 2 25 ltr containers as well
Marcus...
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400-600ltrs a day normally.
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On the said house i reckon i'd use 50 ltrs minimum & i only clean glass, no frames.
I find some of the quoted daily water usages a bit unrealistic, i would find it hard to get through a full days work & make a good job on such little water.
tony
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It sounds like a contradiction but i use less water now i have a higher flow rate. I only have to rinse the occasional window for stubborn webs or bits of leaf around the frame that falls on the glass.
I dithered for a year and a half before i had the balls to try it. Some windows i have to rinse still but most not.
What a saving. On water as well as time.
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It sounds like a contradiction but i use less water now i have a higher flow rate. I only have to rinse the occasional window for stubborn webs or bits of leaf around the frame that falls on the glass.
I dithered for a year and a half before i had the balls to try it. Some windows i have to rinse still but most not.
What a saving. On water as well as time.
I find this to be true when using the backpack on setting no3 instead of no2