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Title: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on November 20, 2007, 06:59:28 am
I had my first days WFP'ing today, with my new Pure Freedom Trolley System.

I certainly wasn't much quicker, but I felt a lot less tired after the end of the day!

I know I'll get quicker too.

There's a couple of house on my round yesterday, that I normally don't enjoy cleaning due to access, and the amount of ladder work involed - today was a dream doing them.

I've attached some pics of one of those houses. I used 25 liters of water to clean it, and it took 45 mins.

Am I using to much water for a property this size ( it's a bi-monthly clean)?


I'm now definatley a covert to WFP - it's certainly going to make my life easier :)

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h190/MPElliott/DSC00010.jpg)

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h190/MPElliott/DSC00009.jpg)

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h190/MPElliott/DSC00006.jpg)

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h190/MPElliott/DSC00005.jpg)

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h190/MPElliott/DSC00004.jpg)

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h190/MPElliott/DSC00007.jpg)

You get a nice view cleaning this property :)
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: a-r window cleanin on November 20, 2007, 08:00:50 am
As it was a first clean with wfp I think 25 ltrs isnt to bad I remembered going through loads of water for my first couple of cleans
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: G O A on November 20, 2007, 08:19:02 am
what system did u buy how much and ar u happy with it looking into getting one but dont know where to start,do u carry spare water in the van etc
looks like it made your ay easier
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: supernova77 on November 20, 2007, 08:45:43 am
25L doesn't sound like enough water for that property? Did you rinse the windows well?

Andy
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: alan andrewswestsi on November 20, 2007, 09:02:46 am
yuo,ll soon be using less water and you,ll be round that property in 20 mins max , i started in feb with the freedom and its a good bit of kit , i,ve changed it to a van mount now , one tip , you will get punctures so buy one of those cans from a garage that fills the tyre with foam its an absolute pain dragging a trolley with a punctured tyre
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: nat on November 20, 2007, 09:23:59 am
what a lovely view to be working in front of. don't think i could get stressed working in that enviroment
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on November 20, 2007, 09:46:03 am
I too never realised just how tired I was working 4hrs + on a ladder every day till I went WFP.

I was slower at first, but because I had the xtra energy and was really enjoying it I didn't notice the time going by. Now however, I'm quite a bit quicker and for most of my round I'm only on the second time around.

I enjoy working traditionally so I'm only doing tops WFP at the moment on most of my work. First time around I was using seven barrels a day with my Freedom trolley. Second time around and I'm already down to four.

Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: Jon-scwindows on November 20, 2007, 10:47:41 am
im using about 5 25ltr containers each day getting about 10 houses done per day.

you do get quicker and save more water. Now im using about 12.5ltrs per average/smallish house- so two per container..

lovely view
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: xxmattyxx on November 20, 2007, 01:33:42 pm
So what part of the coast is that?

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h190/MPElliott/DSC00007.jpg)

lovely.

Matt
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on November 20, 2007, 02:12:46 pm
i must agree with andy at scs 25 litres seems nothing like enough water for a house that size i have found that skimping on water leads to problems specially on first clean only been wfp since april but found i got quicker and more consistent after i stopped thinking about how much water i was using and just went for personally i look at photos and i would have used double that amount on first clean easily and even after few cleans its still a barrel and half surely or am i doing something wrong still nice view and hope your wfp move goes well
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: MNWC on November 20, 2007, 04:46:20 pm
Is that Bedruthan in cornwall

Marcus...


Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: NWH on November 20, 2007, 04:53:25 pm
When your up to speed it will take half the time at least the time first cleans are taking you,it might sound a long time but after a year you can really see how much time your saving on your whole round,it`ll take a few cleans before you know where your going with your hoses etc,and then when you go van mount you`ll be even more surprised how much more time you`ll be saving.
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on November 20, 2007, 06:07:45 pm
what system did u buy how much and ar u happy with it looking into getting one but dont know where to start,do u carry spare water in the van etc
looks like it made your ay easier


I went for the Pure Freedom Trolley - the complete package . very impressed, easy to set up, and use.

The only other thing I had to buy was a water storage tank to store the water at home.

Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 20, 2007, 06:09:44 pm
Looks quite like Bude, but I doubt it is if he's from Padstow.
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on November 20, 2007, 06:33:24 pm
Is that Bedruthan in cornwall

Marcus...




Yes, Mawgan Porth...
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on November 20, 2007, 06:35:12 pm
i must agree with andy at scs 25 litres seems nothing like enough water for a house that size i have found that skimping on water leads to problems specially on first clean only been wfp since april but found i got quicker and more consistent after i stopped thinking about how much water i was using and just went for personally i look at photos and i would have used double that amount on first clean easily and even after few cleans its still a barrel and half surely or am i doing something wrong still nice view and hope your wfp move goes well

Thanks for your imput, I'll stop scrimping and turn the pressure up.
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: MNWC on November 20, 2007, 06:37:32 pm
I Stayed at the bedruthan steps hotel in that picture.....

Small world

Marcus...
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on November 20, 2007, 06:39:15 pm
I'm very lucky to live 5 minutes from there.

I keep trying to get the hotel to have there windows cleaned  :-\
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: G O A on November 20, 2007, 07:13:41 pm
how much cost  and how much water do u carry with u?
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on November 20, 2007, 07:34:49 pm
The complete set up ( including RO, and Di) cost £995, and at the mo I'm carrying 150litres of water ( 6 x 25 litre barrels)

Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: SonOfFormby on November 20, 2007, 09:36:53 pm
Looks like a nice place to work and live, love the coast :)

Lee
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: windowwashers on November 20, 2007, 09:51:31 pm
how much cost  and how much water do u carry with u?
Under 4k and carry 650l
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: Captain Scarlet on November 20, 2007, 09:53:09 pm
Well done, glad your enjoying wfp!
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: mark dew on November 21, 2007, 01:58:14 am
25 litres in 45 minutes?
that's almost 1/2 a litre a minute.  :o
Are you jeff brimble in disguise?

If you're passing it might be worth having a look at the windows again. It is very little water for rinsing on a 1st clean on a job of that time. If they are good it is very well done.
I thought i used little water but i i used approx 35L on a job that took that amount of time last week and that is after a year and a half of cleaning it wfp.
I got through 75L the 1st few cleans.

Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on November 21, 2007, 08:05:14 am
25 litres in 45 minutes?
that's almost 1/2 a litre a minute.  :o
Are you jeff brimble in disguise?

If you're passing it might be worth having a look at the windows again. It is very little water for rinsing on a 1st clean on a job of that time. If they are good it is very well done.
I thought i used little water but i i used approx 35L on a job that took that amount of time last week and that is after a year and a half of cleaning it wfp.
I got through 75L the 1st few cleans.



That's why I posted. I've been cleaning this property for six months Trad, but this is my first clean with WFP. Fortunately, it's a holiday home with no one stying until Christmas, so it was a good property to launch the system on.

But obviously I want to achieve perfect results.

I will go back and check, and turn up my flow for other cleans.

I expect a few bad results at the start, but hopefully with practise, and help from you folks will help me develop my skills sooner rather than later.

I'm being very select at the moment with the property's I use WFP. When my skills and confidence improve, I'll be doing 85% with WFP - then just need to work on the other 15%  ;)

Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: G O A on November 21, 2007, 08:13:42 am
4k is a bit above me at the mhe minute windows,
does a grand sound a fair price? am i right in saying u could use most of the equipment with a van set up afterwards?
why do u have to store it in a tank at home? is it purified in any way there or just while u work
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: mark dew on November 21, 2007, 08:14:59 am
25 litres in 45 minutes?
that's almost 1/2 a litre a minute. :o
Are you jeff brimble in disguise?

If you're passing it might be worth having a look at the windows again. It is very little water for rinsing on a 1st clean on a job of that time. If they are good it is very well done.
I thought i used little water but i i used approx 35L on a job that took that amount of time last week and that is after a year and a half of cleaning it wfp.
I got through 75L the 1st few cleans.



That's why I posted. I've been cleaning this property for six months Trad, but this is my first clean with WFP. Fortunately, it's a holiday home with no one stying until Christmas, so it was a good property to launch the system on.

But obviously I want to achieve perfect results.

I will go back and check, and turn up my flow for other cleans.

I expect a few bad results at the start, but hopefully with practise, and help from you folks will help me develop my skills sooner rather than later.

I'm being very select at the moment with the property's I use WFP. When my skills and confidence improve, I'll be doing 85% with WFP - then just need to work on the other 15% ;)



Don't be put off by any complaints if you get any. It's par for the course in the beginning and if you don't get any. Bonus!
Good luck with it.
Title: Re: First Day WFP'ing
Post by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on November 21, 2007, 04:50:50 pm
Well, I did pop back and check the windows this morning. The majority were actually OK, but a number had run marks from the top frame.

So, today I have increased the flow for the rinse, and the results have looked very good. :)

I could do with an extension to clean the bottom of some windows, with a wide sill

What do you advise?

Also, I'm going to need a longer pole ( 24ft)

What pole and brush do you recommend for a small domestic round?

Thanks