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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Nathanael Jones on November 19, 2007, 09:54:35 pm

Title: Zero reject RO systems?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 19, 2007, 09:54:35 pm
I saw Ionics are doing a zero reject RO system now.
With hose pipe bans and rising water charges etc, it a very appealing idea,... but a very unappealing price tag.

How does it work? Can I modify my existing setup to be zero reject?

I assume they use a booster pump and extra membranes to minimise reject in the first place, probably down to about 20%,... but how do they get rid of that last 20% (Without using sack loads of resin!)?????
Title: Re: Zero reject RO systems?
Post by: windowwashers on November 19, 2007, 10:10:37 pm
I saw Ionics are doing a zero reject RO system now.
With hose pipe bans and rising water charges etc, it a very appealing idea,... but a very unappealing price tag.

How does it work? Can I modify my existing setup to be zero reject?

I assume they use a booster pump and extra membranes to minimise reject in the first place, probably down to about 20%,... but how do they get rid of that last 20% (Without using sack loads of resin!)?????
wait six months and check back on here and i guess the answer will be here.
what is the price tag by the way ??
Title: Re: Zero reject RO systems?
Post by: Neil Williams on November 19, 2007, 10:15:07 pm
Reject water is fed back into the inlet side and this is where I believe the problem begins.
Normal inlet water 300 ppm, the reject water is fed into this and the ppm rises to lets say 350. Gradually this will creep up until the membranes have to deal with lets say 450 ppm. Not soon after it's on the phone for new membranes.
Title: Re: Zero reject RO systems?
Post by: need a cleaner on November 19, 2007, 10:38:51 pm
my reject from a 290/300 in tds is 450+
Title: Re: Zero reject RO systems?
Post by: NWH on November 19, 2007, 10:48:07 pm
If you don`t mind buying a sack of resin a week go for it.
Title: Re: Zero reject RO systems?
Post by: windowwashers on November 19, 2007, 11:42:17 pm
my in water is way over 400 to start with lol  :-[
Title: Re: Zero reject RO systems?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 20, 2007, 07:17:55 am
The Ionics mag mentions a RO-Bak filter. I'm guessing this is a special filter that the rejected water passed through before being re-circulated into the system.
If this was standard resin,... then you'd use as much resin as a DI only setup,.. which is hardly enviromentally friendly.

I'll send an e-mail to RO-man,.. see if they have any ideas!
Title: Re: Zero reject RO systems?
Post by: need a cleaner on November 20, 2007, 02:22:58 pm
I would belive that would be alot more costly than the resin we use :)