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Title: Christmas tips
Post by: xxmattyxx on November 02, 2007, 05:56:12 pm
Yes yes !! I know its a long way off still, but for those who do an 8 week round they're going to be hard pushed to get 2 more visits in before Xmas.
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on November 02, 2007, 05:59:21 pm
the tax man gonna love this post
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: pingu on November 02, 2007, 06:00:39 pm
In the event that I am given any tips....I will give those to a charity that I like...

But then again I do not expect much anyhow.

Dave.
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Mike_G on November 02, 2007, 06:05:05 pm
Dont forget to tell the taxman about your tips at the end of the year guys :(
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: trevor perry on November 02, 2007, 06:08:20 pm
if i give my customers tips are they tax deductable ;D just a thought
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Andy@w.c.s on November 02, 2007, 07:26:54 pm
Had my first today
£10 and a cup of tea  :)
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 02, 2007, 08:22:13 pm
the tax man gonna love this post
The taxman can insert it into his rectum.

My tips are my tips.
Gifts from customers are not taxable. ::)

For the record, I usually get about £350-400 from less than 200 customers.
I'm expecting much less this year though because I've used wfp and annoyed them. :(
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: d s windowcleaning on November 02, 2007, 08:23:28 pm
wont be working over christmas due to operation . so no tips for me . at the end of the day if a custy wants to tip they will if they dont then its tuff goin . i have never expected a tip & still dont thats up to my custy if they think im good enough & shown how reliable i am then they look after me same as i look after them .
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Pole2pole on November 02, 2007, 09:37:32 pm
I got my first tip this week  ;D From a custy who is moving the hell out of london for a better life. What bugs me is, (you may agree) it's always the good ones that move aint it??? Leaving the moany ol tightwads behind  >:(  ;)
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: matt on November 02, 2007, 11:30:38 pm
the tax man gonna love this post
The taxman can insert it into his rectum.

My tips are my tips.
Gifts from customers are not taxable. ::)

For the record, I usually get about £350-400 from less than 200 customers.
I'm expecting much less this year though because I've used wfp and annoyed them. :(

a little harsh roger

im sure some will give you a tip




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ditch that brush on a pole you "squirt and run" with  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Pole2pole on November 02, 2007, 11:32:52 pm
Matt's here  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: windowwashers on November 02, 2007, 11:46:27 pm
the tax man gonna love this post
The taxman can insert it into his rectum.

My tips are my tips.
Gifts from customers are not taxable. ::)

For the record, I usually get about £350-400 from less than 200 customers.
I'm expecting much less this year though because I've used wfp and annoyed them. :(
think you will find you are wrong there m8  ;)
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Pole2pole on November 02, 2007, 11:50:23 pm
the tax man gonna love this post
The taxman can insert it into his rectum.

My tips are my tips.
Gifts from customers are not taxable. ::)

For the record, I usually get about £350-400 from less than 200 customers.
I'm expecting much less this year though because I've used wfp and annoyed them. :(
think you will find you are wrong there m8  ;)
Me too..........they still know ya work ya arse off day after day. And don't forget,wfp=more custys which theoretically must surely mean the possibility of more tips  :)
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Alex Wingrove on November 02, 2007, 11:50:42 pm
tips are not taxable

they are gifts

since when was a gift taxable,
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 03, 2007, 12:00:07 am
Exactly. ;)
Ignore windscreen wipers. ;D
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: windowwashers on November 03, 2007, 12:03:16 am
Exactly. ;)
Ignore windscreen wipers. ;D
squeaky dont be a smart ass, when you look at tax bill it asks for tips etc, ever seen that section do you pay tax? example: a waitress tips are taxable, someone that knows please let us no's that facts not someone that thinks, as this is where people get into trouble.

and by the way it is window washers can understand you feel you have to knock me if that makes you feel better thats fine, i feel sry for you, always here to help if you need it all you have to do is ask  ;).

must be in bad mood tonight  >:( as not seeing funny side of life
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 03, 2007, 12:28:28 am
Rubbish mate, seriously!

Regular tips that top up your wages, maybe. (like a waiteress gets).
At Christmas it's a gift for you from the customer, given as a friend.

What you going to do? Send the taxman 22% of the chocolates and wine you get too? ::)

I couldn't care less if someone pops up and tries to tell people otherwise, they're perfectly entitled to xmas tips.

You give your money away, I'll enjoy my DVD's, games, booze and time off. ;)


Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: windowwashers on November 03, 2007, 12:32:04 am
Rubbish mate, seriously!

Regular tips that top up your wages, maybe. (like a waiteress gets).
At Christmas it's a gift for you from the customer, given as a friend.

What you going to do? Send the taxman 22% of the chocolates and wine you get too? ::)

I couldn't care less if someone pops up and tries to tell people otherwise, they're perfectly entitled to xmas tips.

You give your money away, I'll enjoy my DVD's, games, booze and time off. ;)



i understand where you are coming from m8, i think im having a bad night.

tips are taxable i am 99% sure of it, gift (as in family a freinds) customers is classed as a tip for labour, taxable.


 gift for you from the customer, given as a friend you are not their freind you are employed by them as you say they are a customer, thats a first rule of business friends and business do not mix  ;)
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on November 03, 2007, 01:15:34 am
I once asked this question of a customer I had that worked for the Inland Revenue. Her reply to me was prety much as follows:

Regular tips that make up a fundemental part of your wages each week/month, (such as a waiter/waiteress gets) are taxable.
Tips that occur on an infrequent basis, ie: when a custy says, 'keep the change' or 'have a drink on me,' and gives you a couple of pounds, are not intended to be the target of this law as they do not make up a fundemental part of your wage.

I don't know if this differentiation is still made, as it was some years ago that I was told this, but it made sense to me at the time and still does.

 
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Russell Macdonald on November 03, 2007, 07:14:49 am
the tax man gonna love this post
The taxman can insert it into his rectum.

My tips are my tips.
Gifts from customers are not taxable. ::)

For the record, I usually get about £350-400 from less than 200 customers.
I'm expecting much less this year though because I've used wfp and annoyed them. :(

LOL Rog but my earnings are my earnings but he still wants his share.

I'll pop a check in the post for a tenner mate to start the ball rolling.  ;)
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Trevor Knight on November 03, 2007, 08:58:15 am
Guy's Guy's Guy's please!!!!!!!!

Lets be realistic here for a minute.

1) The IR have to PROVE who gave you a tip and how much it was!
2) Unless you delcare your tip it an unknown quantity!
3) The Tax Man isn't going to spend a fortnight tracking down who did and didn't give you a tip to find out you got £400 tips of which he is entitled to his cut (22% approx?)

Yes you should be worried if you get £1000's rather than £1's but in all honesty...............??

My guy's work VERY hard all year round, what they get given at xmas from our customers is their concern! Happy xmas guy's!!
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: ronnie paton on November 03, 2007, 09:02:45 am
dont know anout christmas but i got £8 yesterday not much i know but nice all the same i must of done some thing right!!
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 03, 2007, 10:04:57 am
Well said Trev!
Good post.
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: windowwashers on November 03, 2007, 10:36:26 am
Well said Trev!
Good post.
Second that.


Morning squeaky, I guess you dont get 1000's in tips then  :P
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 03, 2007, 08:09:32 pm
Well said Trev!
Good post.
Second that.


Morning squeaky, I guess you dont get 1000's in tips then  :P
Nope, usually 350-400 quid.
Not bad for less than 200 customers. ;)
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Moderator David@stives on November 03, 2007, 08:20:42 pm
Getting tips is usually a sign of being to cheap.

When i first started 10 years ago , i got about £400 in tips at that time i thought £7.00 an hour was good.
The next year i dramaticaly increased my prices, then the tips stopped.

Now i employ people.

I dont want tips nor do i accept them now, if they give them to the staff then fine by me.

Dave
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 03, 2007, 08:51:24 pm
Getting tips is usually a sign of being to cheap.
;D I despair!
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Trevor Knight on November 04, 2007, 08:26:17 am
Hi Dave,

Sorry but I have to disagree with you. Getting a tip has no reflection whatsoever on your pricing.

A tip is based on your loyalty, regular service in all weathers and months of the year. Your services you have provided and the fact that your customer appreciates you and what you have done for them over the last 12 months. It is also the season of goodwill and it is generally an accepted practice to tip all people such as bin men, postman, milkman etc.............

Now, if you had a customer that you charged £8.50 each month and everytime they paid you, they gave you £10 and said keep the change, then you would have to question your pricing!

A once a year tip is completelty different??
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Moderator David@stives on November 04, 2007, 10:05:33 am
Trev

Just speaking from personal experience.

Gone from £400 tips with a £500 a month round when i first started out. to virtually nothing with a lot bigger round.

We get the odd bottle of wine or tin of choccies, but not much more than that.

Dave
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Mike_G on November 04, 2007, 10:32:08 am
You'll have to pay Income Tax on any tips you get when you're working. But you may not have to pay National Insurance contributions.  According to the government tax website.

Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: windowwashers on November 04, 2007, 10:33:11 am
You'll have to pay Income Tax on any tips you get when you're working. But you may not have to pay National Insurance contributions.  According to the government tax website.


seems I was right squeaky  :P
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 04, 2007, 10:49:15 am
What?
Just because someone agreed with you? ::)

He's wrong.
A gift is a gift.

Enjoy giving the taxman your wine and choccies. ;)
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: windowwashers on November 04, 2007, 10:58:49 am
What?
Just because someone agreed with you? ::)

He's wrong.
A gift is a gift.

Enjoy giving the taxman your wine and choccies. ;)
In your opinion hes wrong, and agreeing with me is a good thing  :P
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 04, 2007, 11:12:07 am
I give up.
I'm too confused. ??? ;D
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: windowwashers on November 04, 2007, 11:12:50 am
I give up.
I'm too confused. ??? ;D
lol, me too.
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Mike_G on November 04, 2007, 07:41:55 pm
I got that from the inland revenue site. Come on guys you should all know by now in this country they will tax you on everything they possibly can.
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Tosh on November 05, 2007, 06:39:29 pm
1) The IR have to PROVE who gave you a tip and how much it was!

I'm the same with my turnover! ;D
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: twt on November 22, 2007, 09:21:11 pm
just been looking into the tip situation and unfortunately you do have to declare tips and they are taxable as mentioned earlier in thread you don't have to pay national insurance on them though.
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Elginn on November 22, 2007, 09:23:20 pm
the tax man gonna love this post
The taxman can insert it into his rectum.

My tips are my tips.
Gifts from customers are not taxable. ::)

For the record, I usually get about £350-400 from less than 200 customers.
I'm expecting much less this year though because I've used wfp and annoyed them. :(
All your tips are accountable to the taxman
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: steve m on November 22, 2007, 09:32:21 pm
I was a milkman years ago, and the taxman put the income tax up by 6% in the month of december
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: FUN on November 22, 2007, 09:43:13 pm
Do you find in general that it is the people with less money who tip. I used to do removals years ago and that was certainly the case then. Mind you, one time my mate with another bloke moved a woman to Scotland from Sussex and was given a £1000 tip. Woohoo!
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Jon-scwindows on November 22, 2007, 10:41:53 pm
i cant quite beat that but i got my first £3 tip today woohoo
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: gsw on November 22, 2007, 11:18:27 pm
if i got any tips (which i dont :o) i agree with squeeky and the rectum comment. I dont believe anyone on here puts tips on their tax return at the end of the year. if they do what are they trying to achieve...... you have eastern europeans running car wash operations that seem to think that standard practise is not to declare any earnings at all let alone tips, i dont see Mr Revenue taking any action there! no men with clipboards counting the cars going in and out on a saturday morning!!!!!


Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Elginn on November 22, 2007, 11:35:45 pm
The taxman won't want your tin of bickkies or your box of chocolates but he will tax you on them? he will also charge you an average of what he thinks you may get, based on the amount of customers you have, its then up to you to prove you didn't get that much?
Believe me I know :'(

He also stung one of my mates in smithfield market in Birmingham and he just pushes a barrow around he used to get a couple of quid a day, the  taxman charged him an avarage and it was way more than he got in tips.

The taxman would have a field day with half of you guy's,once he gets his teeth into you, he won't let go.
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: gary999 on November 23, 2007, 10:13:52 pm
cheerful bunch aint we!! ::) i got my first tip today wont mention how much
wouldnt want the tax man chasing me but iwas pleased with it ;D
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on November 23, 2007, 10:30:23 pm
tips are taxable full stop gifts have to be declared as such by the giver oh and wine chocs and biccies are payment in kind. really  ;D
Title: Re: Christmas tips
Post by: Llaaww on November 23, 2007, 10:34:27 pm
never eat yellow snow  :D