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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Stevie G on October 24, 2007, 03:51:36 pm

Title: petition
Post by: Stevie G on October 24, 2007, 03:51:36 pm
petition to downing street.http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Waterfed-poles
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Post by: m.b.s. on October 24, 2007, 04:10:30 pm
just signed it
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Post by: Kwackers on October 24, 2007, 04:14:52 pm
Done
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Post by: xxmattyxx on October 24, 2007, 04:16:19 pm
just signed it

What that man said
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Post by: jeff1 on October 24, 2007, 04:19:16 pm
Mines done.
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Post by: Alistair@AWC on October 24, 2007, 04:23:58 pm
just signed it

What that man said

What that man said that man said  :)
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Post by: Neil_A on October 24, 2007, 04:34:46 pm
And me  8)
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Post by: GAZZA B on October 24, 2007, 04:40:05 pm
just signed it

Gazza ;D
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Post by: need a cleaner on October 24, 2007, 04:53:03 pm
signed :)
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Post by: colley614 on October 24, 2007, 05:00:24 pm
I've just signed it. Bet there won't be many people signing it though. I mean how will they get the time whilst trying to cram 1000 gallons of water a day through a 300 gpd R/O system  ;)
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Neil_A on October 24, 2007, 05:14:53 pm
Does this mean mobile car valeters will be banned all so from carrying tanks in there van and cleaning the outside of cars? i know a lot of guys who have a tank just like we use but the water is not pure!  And they would use just the sameamount as we do, ifnot more??:

>?
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Post by: windowwashers on October 24, 2007, 05:38:29 pm
I have just signed it  ;)
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Post by: cherubs cleaning on October 24, 2007, 06:03:28 pm
and me
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Post by: tonylee on October 24, 2007, 06:07:17 pm
snap
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Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on October 24, 2007, 06:14:40 pm
signed it :)
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Post by: Dean Aspects on October 24, 2007, 06:14:50 pm
signed :)
34 signatures

Dean
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Post by: MNWC on October 24, 2007, 06:15:20 pm
All Done  >:(
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Post by: davidpitts on October 24, 2007, 06:17:02 pm
Me too
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Post by: groundhog on October 24, 2007, 06:24:25 pm
And me  ;D
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Post by: jr windows on October 24, 2007, 06:47:45 pm
Just done.
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Post by: Terry_Burrows on October 24, 2007, 06:52:57 pm
solidararty to fellow wc DONE ;D
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Post by: Pureandclean on October 24, 2007, 08:08:34 pm
Likewise my names on it  >:(
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Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 24, 2007, 08:22:29 pm
just done it
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Post by: huntercontractors on October 24, 2007, 08:25:49 pm
done
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Post by: SonOfFormby on October 24, 2007, 08:38:21 pm
Right on!!

Lee
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Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 24, 2007, 08:49:15 pm
my dads just done it
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Post by: dave0123 on October 24, 2007, 09:07:49 pm
Mee too
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Post by: Pittmonkey on October 24, 2007, 09:26:36 pm
Done
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Post by: tacky on October 24, 2007, 09:37:04 pm
sent
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Post by: russ_clark on October 24, 2007, 10:33:13 pm
signed
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Post by: suds window service on October 24, 2007, 10:51:14 pm
done
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Post by: Wayne Thomas on October 24, 2007, 10:57:01 pm
Me too. United we stand, divided we fall :)
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Post by: xxmattyxx on October 24, 2007, 11:01:58 pm
 ;D   ;D

I see our mate


(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39846000/jpg/_39846155_vine_jeremy.jpg)


from Radio 2 has signed it, about the 65th signatory.........hmmm...I wonder who did that  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Chris Cottrell on October 24, 2007, 11:09:41 pm
done

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Post by: m.b.s. on October 24, 2007, 11:16:44 pm
lets get freinds and family to do it all the merea carnt you windowwashers get all the wc on your web site to signe it or why not get our good customers to signe it if they will
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Pj on October 24, 2007, 11:29:28 pm
There's a lot of names missing.....
including some who have said they've done it!  You have to put your address on and complete the email link too. ::)
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Post by: dudek on October 25, 2007, 06:52:03 am
Done.
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Post by: gmcs on October 25, 2007, 07:20:04 am
Done
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Post by: jeff1 on October 25, 2007, 11:56:48 am
I forgot the Boss works for me part time, so she's entitled to sign, so I just added the Boss to the petition aswell ;D
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Post by: Jeff Brimble on October 25, 2007, 01:53:48 pm
Skinflint  ::) make her up to a partner
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Post by: barry woodward on October 25, 2007, 01:59:43 pm
Done
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Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 25, 2007, 03:05:16 pm
why are people adding joke names, this is serious, Luke
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Post by: simon knight on October 25, 2007, 03:19:28 pm

Joke names aside when I last checked there were 90 signatures.

There are currently 8477 petitions and the top 100 all have in excess of 2300 with the top one (Red Arrows doing a 2012 fly past)  having over 200,000.

Need to be getting friends, family and customers to sign to be even noticed!

Title: Re: petition
Post by: jeff1 on October 25, 2007, 03:23:50 pm
Skinflint  ::) make her up to a partner
That would only make her the big Boss then ;)
why are people adding joke names, this is serious, Luke
It doesn't matter what name you use, it still has your ip address and email, and I have called my mrs the boss for 30 years, I'm not about to stop now.
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Andy@w.c.s on October 25, 2007, 03:40:50 pm
done ;)
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Post by: Pj on October 25, 2007, 08:23:04 pm
Great to see such true determination and grit!

Twelve thousand fife hundred and nineteen forum members

Just over 300 have read this topic
(Quite alarming that 440 read some drivel about some idiot called "Shirtie Poo" in the Chat Section)

100 signed the petition to protect their livelihoods!

If I was the Prime Minister I would ban windowcleaners!

It's obvious they earn too much, care little about the environment... or themselves for that matter!
Title: Re: petition
Post by: jeff1 on October 25, 2007, 08:26:26 pm
Great to see such true determination and grit!

Twelve thousand fife hundred and nineteen forum members

Just over 300 have read this topic

100 signed the petition to protect their livelihoods!

If I was the Prime Minister I would ban windowcleaners!

It's obvious they earn too much, care little about the environment... or themselves for that matter!
Very true Pj
I could under stand if they had to get out of there seats and go to the post office ::) Just a few clicks of the mouse and its done.
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Pj on October 25, 2007, 08:27:22 pm
read again Jeff :o
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Post by: Stevie G on October 25, 2007, 08:34:45 pm
         ???missing something here.
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Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 25, 2007, 08:36:44 pm
is there somebody on this forum called Duncan??
Title: Re: petition
Post by: jeff1 on October 25, 2007, 08:39:04 pm
read again Jeff :o
As I understand it Pj
Twelve thousand five hundred and nineteen forum members, 100 signed the petition to protect their livelihoods!

I just can't for the life of me understand why so few have signed the petition? Ok we could cut the fiigure down some what, due to the fact, it affects us w/c and not cleaners on the other section, even if we cut the figure down by half, that would still leave 6,250 members, lets cut that in half again, and say the other half are Trad? That still leaves us with 3,125 ish. and we have 100 signatures.

If I was the prime minister I would  ban w/cleaning as a priority with such a poor response.
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Pj on October 25, 2007, 08:53:25 pm
read again Jeff :o
As I understand it Pj
Twelve thousand five hundred and nineteen forum members, 100 signed the petition to protect their livelihoods!

I just can't for the life of me understand why so few have signed the petition? Ok we could cut the fiigure down some what, due to the fact, it affects us w/c and not cleaners on the other section, even if we cut the figure down by half, that would still leave 6,250 members, lets cut that in half again, and say the other half are Trad? That still leaves us with 3,125 ish. and we have 100 signatures.

If I was the prime minister I would  ban w/cleaning as a priority with such a poor response.

Yep they're more interested in "Shirtie Poo"!
Title: Re: petition
Post by: jeff1 on October 25, 2007, 09:02:18 pm
read again Jeff :o
As I understand it Pj
Twelve thousand five hundred and nineteen forum members, 100 signed the petition to protect their livelihoods!

I just can't for the life of me understand why so few have signed the petition? Ok we could cut the fiigure down some what, due to the fact, it affects us w/c and not cleaners on the other section, even if we cut the figure down by half, that would still leave 6,250 members, lets cut that in half again, and say the other half are Trad? That still leaves us with 3,125 ish. and we have 100 signatures.

If I was the prime minister I would  ban w/cleaning as a priority with such a poor response.

Yep they're more interested in "Shirtie Poo"!
Its a shame really, if they do have a hosepipe ban and some of them have to go on the dole or change there trade, and just because ''shirtie Poo'' was more interesting.
Title: Re: petition
Post by: windowwashers on October 25, 2007, 09:12:33 pm
read again Jeff :o
As I understand it Pj
Twelve thousand five hundred and nineteen forum members, 100 signed the petition to protect their livelihoods!

I just can't for the life of me understand why so few have signed the petition? Ok we could cut the fiigure down some what, due to the fact, it affects us w/c and not cleaners on the other section, even if we cut the figure down by half, that would still leave 6,250 members, lets cut that in half again, and say the other half are Trad? That still leaves us with 3,125 ish. and we have 100 signatures.

If I was the prime minister I would  ban w/cleaning as a priority with such a poor response.
A few reasons are:
1 they have not read this post yet and when they do they will sign it.
2 they are members that very rarly come on here
3 they are people that dont care till it happens then will come on here moaning like hell that they cant work.

my advice for anyone reading this is to sign it. You may not care or think to yourself i will work anyway. But in the real world if this does happen you will be right in the s==t 2 mins of your time may help this from not happening in the future.

you have the choice choose one  ;)
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Pj on October 25, 2007, 09:32:39 pm
There are 3 types of people in this world:

Those that make things happen

Those that watch things happen

Those that didn't know anything was happening

 :o   ::)   :(   8) 
Title: Re: petition
Post by: colley614 on October 25, 2007, 09:34:05 pm
Just Signed it now. Didn't realize I had to click the link in the e-mail.
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Stevie G on October 26, 2007, 07:53:08 am
and those that have spent ££££££ on new wfp gear and might not be able
to use it.   
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Post by: steve m on October 26, 2007, 08:13:56 am
Ive just signed, no.111 . Maybe all those that didnt sign dont use wfp
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Post by: simon knight on October 26, 2007, 08:37:13 am
Ive just signed, no.111 . Maybe all those that didnt sign dont use wfp

I'm trad and signed...brothers in arms and all that!
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Post by: windowwashers on October 26, 2007, 08:43:31 am
Ive just signed, no.111 . Maybe all those that didnt sign dont use wfp

I'm trad and signed...brothers in arms and all that!
Good on you Simon  ;)
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Post by: S.A.J on October 26, 2007, 09:10:19 am
All signed aswell  8)

Stuart  :D
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Post by: Paul Coleman on October 26, 2007, 10:00:00 am
read again Jeff :o
As I understand it Pj
Twelve thousand five hundred and nineteen forum members, 100 signed the petition to protect their livelihoods!

I just can't for the life of me understand why so few have signed the petition? Ok we could cut the fiigure down some what, due to the fact, it affects us w/c and not cleaners on the other section, even if we cut the figure down by half, that would still leave 6,250 members, lets cut that in half again, and say the other half are Trad? That still leaves us with 3,125 ish. and we have 100 signatures.

If I was the prime minister I would  ban w/cleaning as a priority with such a poor response.

With a response like that he will probably ban it even when water isn't in short supply.
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Chris Cottrell on October 27, 2007, 08:58:41 pm
 Bump


Also emailed this to customers, friends & family       3 or 4 so far
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Chris Cottrell on October 27, 2007, 09:03:24 pm
Also why have some used, shall we say assumed names. .... I mean is ivor bigpole a real name

this is not a joke ya know 123 votes is appalling considering numbers of members here
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Bazzy1999 on October 27, 2007, 09:10:42 pm
Done !!  ;D


Bazzy...
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Post by: StevePB on October 27, 2007, 09:17:17 pm
  Done
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Post by: Chris Cottrell on October 27, 2007, 09:21:37 pm
just a reminder of the link

petition to downing street.     http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Waterfed-poles
Title: Re: petition
Post by: m.b.s. on October 27, 2007, 09:40:47 pm
just sent link to freinds and family has any one gatecrashed the other cleaning section parts of this forum with this may be worth a go i would but woudnt know how to put it get back if someone decides to do this m.b.s
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Village Gleam on October 27, 2007, 09:46:39 pm
I've now joined the elite band of the 100 best men in the country who have signed the petition.

Proud as I am to be in such company our so called industry leaders could be doing more to promote this petition. Apart from their  thinking of it in the first place they should be making every effort to get as many people to sign it as possible by all means.
They should also have in place a strategy for sustainability that will go some way to addressing the governments/defra's concerns on this, and as a first step arrange a liason meeting with DEFRA and others such as craig-fed. Any such meeting will need an agenda and it is this area that needs addressing. I am disgusted by the lack of ideas and believe they are out of their depth. If I had more time I would enjoy nothing more than to give them a good kicking. They had a chance at the consultation stage to affect this and failed miserably.
If you're gonna lead, lead, don't just talk about it.
Title: Re: petition
Post by: m.b.s. on October 27, 2007, 10:19:29 pm
just got the wife to signe it have any of you you dont have to be a w/c to do this
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Steve Lowe on October 27, 2007, 10:50:00 pm
I've now joined the elite band of the 100 best men in the country who have signed the petition.

Proud as I am to be in such company our so called industry leaders could be doing more to promote this petition. Apart from their  thinking of it in the first place they should be making every effort to get as many people to sign it as possible by all means.
They should also have in place a strategy for sustainability that will go some way to addressing the governments/defra's concerns on this, and as a first step arrange a liason meeting with DEFRA and others such as craig-fed. Any such meeting will need an agenda and it is this area that needs addressing. I am disgusted by the lack of ideas and believe they are out of their depth. If I had more time I would enjoy nothing more than to give them a good kicking. They had a chance at the consultation stage to affect this and failed miserably.
If you're gonna lead, lead, don't just talk about it.

Hi VG
Please dont take this the wrong way but you are incorrect to say that industry leaders are out of there depth with this. I have spoken to Craig,FWC, and many others including Defra and i can asure you they all know where they are going with this but do not really want to put it on a public forum for a very good reason. The petition is at first thought a good idea but it could well back fire !  When i done the drought order work i telephoned about 40 local firms to me asking them to at least send in an objection. Only a few could be bothered but its probably the other ones that want the support from trade associations but cant be bothered to join!! If associations got proper support they could do far far more!!

Steve
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Village Gleam on October 27, 2007, 11:10:30 pm
Good. Mollified slightly. It's important that we show we are a responsible industry. My approach would be to ask for their help, or as much help as they can give us to make the industry sustainable. This might mean products/means to recycle harvest rain water, grants/taxbreaks for investment in same, education and training in best practice and certification.

I understand about a public forum and confidentiality and tactics. My tactics would be to offence with pr, get some/all MP's on side. This can be done by our willingness to cooperate fully and take on board ways to save or not to use mains water. The other point is that our working pays taxes and it is very harsh to make this the subject of a water board whim.
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Russell Macdonald on October 28, 2007, 08:51:34 am
read again Jeff :o
As I understand it Pj
Twelve thousand five hundred and nineteen forum members, 100 signed the petition to protect their livelihoods!

I just can't for the life of me understand why so few have signed the petition? Ok we could cut the fiigure down some what, due to the fact, it affects us w/c and not cleaners on the other section, even if we cut the figure down by half, that would still leave 6,250 members, lets cut that in half again, and say the other half are Trad? That still leaves us with 3,125 ish. and we have 100 signatures.

If I was the prime minister I would  ban w/cleaning as a priority with such a poor response.

With a response like that he will probably ban it even when water isn't in short supply.

My own persnal feeling is he wont care anyway, this is a sothern problem
so when he sees the pitition he will laugh & bin it.
Title: Re: petition
Post by: George P on October 28, 2007, 02:58:30 pm
now signed, lets hope many people sign it
Title: Re: petition
Post by: Village Gleam on October 28, 2007, 07:20:48 pm
What is the wording of the letter you've put out to MP's Steve?
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Post by: Tim Morton on October 28, 2007, 07:28:33 pm
signed up too
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Post by: alan andrewswestsi on October 30, 2007, 03:49:20 pm
only 153 signed up , come on guys
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Post by: mickwc on October 30, 2007, 05:55:44 pm
All signed up!!!    Fingers crossed!!
Title: Re: petition
Post by: mick hay on November 04, 2007, 07:37:42 pm
Signed
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Post by: spotless2000 on November 04, 2007, 10:37:04 pm
Signed. ;)

Steve
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Post by: simonwonder on November 04, 2007, 11:05:30 pm
me just done too
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Post by: rugby on November 04, 2007, 11:55:18 pm
signed

kevin
Title: Re: petition
Post by: need a cleaner on November 10, 2007, 11:16:25 pm
bump