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Title: Anti WFP van
Post by: Scrimble on October 19, 2007, 10:56:14 pm
anyone else seen this bad boy on auto trader? looks like someone doesnt like WFP




(http://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/imgser-uk/servlet/media?id=614584241)
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: windowwashers on October 19, 2007, 10:59:52 pm
anyone else seen this bad boy on auto trader? looks like someone doesnt like WFP




(http://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/imgser-uk/servlet/media?id=614584241)
it's on auto trader as hes selling to get a bigger van to go wfp, the person has not a clue about marketing or image slating something else put people off big time, if i was in his area I would put on a van for fun and park it next to him :

we dont use ladders because window cleaners that do have every right to sue you
We use WFP because we care about you and your window and our staff
soap makes windows dirty  we only use pure water that is better than soap and does not leave a film like soap does :P
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: DASERVICES on October 19, 2007, 11:02:09 pm
Where is his roof rack for his ladders ???

Looks like he has fallen on his van as well ;D ;D from all the dents
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: windowwashers on October 19, 2007, 11:05:36 pm
by the state of that van would you get him to do your windows, I know I wouldnt, i am a fussy and i guess others are too
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: mike richardson on October 19, 2007, 11:13:56 pm
give him a ring lol, ask for his risk assesments, & health & safetypolicy ;D
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: jeff1 on October 19, 2007, 11:52:09 pm
Just a mobile Number Tut Tut, I would not employ anyone with just a mobile number.
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: windowwashers on October 19, 2007, 11:53:28 pm
Just a mobile Number Tut Tut, I would not employ anyone with just a mobile number.
thats got a landline number on it, unless i am more tired than i thought  ;)
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Bazzy1999 on October 19, 2007, 11:57:25 pm
How can he sell a van that says (We use ladders)… and no roof rack…
Then park it up next to a window that’s been boarded up…  ???


Bazzy…
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: jeff1 on October 19, 2007, 11:59:36 pm
How can he sell a van that says (We use ladders)… and no roof rack…
Then park it up next to a window that’s been boarded up…  ???


Bazzy…
Thats nearly as good as LWC's van were it says ladderless w/c and he carried his ladders on the roof, he's taken them off now though  ;D
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Paul Coleman on October 20, 2007, 04:04:28 am
Just a mobile Number Tut Tut, I would not employ anyone with just a mobile number.
thats got a landline number on it, unless i am more tired than i thought  ;)

Yes it is.  Based in the Scarborough area by the look of it.
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: LWC on October 20, 2007, 07:30:51 am
How can he sell a van that says (We use ladders)… and no roof rack…
Then park it up next to a window that’s been boarded up…  ???


Bazzy…
Thats nearly as good as LWC's van were it says ladderless w/c and he carried his ladders on the roof, he's taken them off now though  ;D

cheecky git! mine vans changed now anyway  :P so can carry ladders lol
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: windowwashers on October 20, 2007, 08:57:10 am
How can he sell a van that says (We use ladders)… and no roof rack…
Then park it up next to a window that’s been boarded up…  ???


Bazzy…
Thats nearly as good as LWC's van were it says ladderless w/c and he carried his ladders on the roof, he's taken them off now though  ;D

cheecky git! mine vans changed now anyway  :P so can carry ladders lol
lol, LWC you must have got loads of people asking about ladderless window cleaning then having ladders on the van, i thought it was a clever marketing trick  myself  ;)
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: colley614 on October 20, 2007, 09:02:30 am
It works for my ex boss. On his Trailer he had "Reach and Wash, Ladder less window cleaning technology" Loads of people came to ask why he had a ladder on the roof of his van if he didn't need them and boy did he pick customers up by contradicting himself! ;D
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Dean Aspects on October 20, 2007, 09:21:07 am
I think it was saj window cleaners that got a photo of his van sent into a national newspaper because it said ladderless and he had ladders on his van ;D

Dean
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: russ_clark on October 20, 2007, 09:33:22 am
It was Paul Griffin who got his van in the National Papers.
Can't get better advertising than that- and for free!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Paul Coleman on October 20, 2007, 09:50:02 am
It was Paul Griffin who got his van in the National Papers.
Can't get better advertising than that- and for free!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

It was indeed Russ.  It was one of his customers who sent them the picture  :)
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Dean Aspects on October 20, 2007, 09:52:14 am
I stand corrected  >:(
 ;)

Dean
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Sir Squeaky on October 20, 2007, 12:04:16 pm
I don't think any of you have any right to slate him.

He's got every right to plug the way he works.
It's no different to you putting the merits of wfp.

Fair play to him I say.
It'll get him plenty of work.

Not everyone likes wfp.
Very few in my experience.
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: windowwashers on October 20, 2007, 12:12:00 pm
I don't think any of you have any right to slate him.

He's got every right to plug the way he works.
It's no different to you putting the merits of wfp.

Fair play to him I say.
It'll get him plenty of work.

Not everyone likes wfp.
Very few in my experience.
squeaks we are all entitled to have an opinion
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Sir Squeaky on October 20, 2007, 12:14:05 pm
I don't think any of you have any right to slate him.

He's got every right to plug the way he works.
It's no different to you putting the merits of wfp.

Fair play to him I say.
It'll get him plenty of work.

Not everyone likes wfp.
Very few in my experience.
squeaks we are all entitled to have an opinion
I know, but it's always the same.

People on here with wfp think they're bigger and better than trad cleaners.
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: LWC on October 20, 2007, 12:22:06 pm
I don't think any of you have any right to slate him.

He's got every right to plug the way he works.
It's no different to you putting the merits of wfp.

Fair play to him I say.
It'll get him plenty of work.

Not everyone likes wfp.
Very few in my experience.
squeaks we are all entitled to have an opinion
I know, but it's always the same.

People on here with wfp think they're bigger and better than trad cleaners.

well we are of course...derrrrrrrrr  :P
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Sir Squeaky on October 20, 2007, 12:24:14 pm
I rest my case... ::)
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: windowwashers on October 20, 2007, 12:34:16 pm
I rest my case... ::)
Squeaks I am a trad cleaner m8, well for the next hour anyway (been sitting there this morning watching water filling in tank, my neighbours must think i'm a complete fruit cake, I even walked down the road with 100mtrs of hose to see just how long it was (did swear at one car driver as he drove over my new baby hose and made a black mark on it  >:( think i have to get over that bit quick lol
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Sir Squeaky on October 20, 2007, 01:19:06 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: jeff1 on October 20, 2007, 01:33:53 pm
I rest my case... ::)
Squeaks  I even walked down the road with 100mtrs of hose to see just how long it was
Ian, Its 100mtrs (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/rollfunny.gif) maybe youv'e been working a little to hard lately  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: pjulk on October 20, 2007, 11:51:03 pm
I like his advertising.
When all the window cleaners go WFP im going back traditional and will charge more money and may use his advertising  ;D



Paul
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Ian_Giles on October 21, 2007, 01:32:09 pm
I don't think any of you have any right to slate him.

He's got every right to plug the way he works.
It's no different to you putting the merits of wfp.

Fair play to him I say.
It'll get him plenty of work.

Not everyone likes wfp.
Very few in my experience.

Rog, I'd say we have every right to offer comment, you are right though, it may well get him more work, though I'd not like to go around advertising the fact I actually work off ladders.

And his method of advertising infers that doing it any other way is inferior...it's negative.

And I've found things to be the reverse of what you seem to be finding, I've found the majority love it, they might be dubious to begin with, but are soon won over.
Take Mary (one that you had off me but stopped doing cos she paid you in small change and you sort of fell out with her) I'm charging almost a tenner more than you were and she loves it.
I do another you once did too (Jenny, just up the top of Garden City), no idea what you were charging on this one, but I charge them £25 and they love the system too, they love their frames being cleaned, especially the conservatory.

I've taken work off Simon in town because the customer loves the fact that I use WFP and can wash all of the paintwork down every time I clean.
On friday just gone I did 3 new accounts, and all love the system, the one loved it because I could also wash all the guttering and facia's down for her.

Many people I have found now know of WFP and often refer to H & S, so word is now well and truly getting around.

And I am finding it almost all positive, and I'm at a complete and utter loss as to why you keep finding so much negativity all the time :-\

But this van is just begging for comments to be made!
It's just a shame he isn't on the forum to put his twopennorth' in and defend himself!
Maybe some brave soul should call him up and ask him to come on here and join up! Maybe he will if he knows how much interst his van is causing! lol

Ian
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Russell Macdonald on October 21, 2007, 09:35:47 pm
How can he sell a van that says (We use ladders)… and no roof rack…
Then park it up next to a window that’s been boarded up…  ???


Bazzy…
Thats nearly as good as LWC's van were it says ladderless w/c and he carried his ladders on the roof, he's taken them off now though  ;D

My van has "ladderless wc" on the side Jeff, how are we supposed to get on to
roofs my old mate, jump?  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: LWC on October 21, 2007, 09:39:09 pm
i havent carried ladders for a long time, if i cant get through. im not doing them...but im carrying them now. too many people out and too many houses not getting done.

as i say ive changed the van now. but as someone said, the amount of people that ask me why have yu got ladders on your roof? brought in many customers.

they ask, i explain...can i have a card please. of course here you go  ;)
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: jeff1 on October 21, 2007, 09:43:25 pm
How can he sell a van that says (We use ladders)… and no roof rack…
Then park it up next to a window that’s been boarded up…  ???


Bazzy…
Thats nearly as good as LWC's van were it says ladderless w/c and he carried his ladders on the roof, he's taken them off now though  ;D

My van has "ladderless wc" on the side Jeff, how are we supposed to get on to
roofs my old mate, jump?  ::) ;D
Macc
I was Jesting no offence intended, I know the reason we wfp carry ladders, I myself carry them when I need to, to gain access to the rear of property's.
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: windowwashers on October 21, 2007, 09:45:15 pm
I rest my case... ::)
Squeaks  I even walked down the road with 100mtrs of hose to see just how long it was
Ian, Its 100mtrs (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/rollfunny.gif) maybe youv'e been working a little to hard lately  ;D ;D
I meant visually (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/rollfunny.gif) I cant be the only one that said to do it can I  :-[ I dont care if I am I now know  ;D its a 100mtrs
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: LWC on October 21, 2007, 09:45:37 pm
he said it cause i take the mick outta myself quite often lol  ;D

but like i said earlier the only way to maximise a days work is this

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/VWSaxon/DSC01072.jpg)
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 21, 2007, 09:46:04 pm
LWC, you should get telescopic ladders - keep them inside then you wont have to waste your time explaing about the ladderless stuff! Luke
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: LWC on October 21, 2007, 09:50:09 pm
LWC, you should get telescopic ladders - keep them inside then you wont have to waste your time explaing about the ladderless stuff! Luke

i tried some the other day, my tank comes to the to the roof of the van. so no where for em to go

and its not a waste of time...it brings in custom  ;)
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 21, 2007, 09:50:53 pm
LWC, how did that person I passed on go? Luke
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: windowwashers on October 21, 2007, 09:56:07 pm
LWC, you should get telescopic ladders - keep them inside then you wont have to waste your time explaing about the ladderless stuff! Luke

i tried some the other day, my tank comes to the to the roof of the van. so no where for em to go

and its not a waste of time...it brings in custom  ;)
LWC I love the idea of what you do, MARKETING MASTER PIECE  ;)
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: LWC on October 21, 2007, 09:56:43 pm
LWC, how did that person I passed on go? Luke

never hear anything back...theyre loss
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 21, 2007, 09:59:02 pm
 :) :) :)I'll see him in a couple of weeks, he works where I clean! Luke
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: LWC on October 21, 2007, 10:00:13 pm
dont worry about it mate. seemed a bit of hassle on phone. dont need any more houses at mo. snowed under...thanks all the same
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 21, 2007, 10:02:26 pm
well if you cant handle them, I can, I dont have enough!!! If somebody needs a cleaner over llangynog way just tell me we can add it onto our llangynog day, thanks, Luke
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: LWC on October 21, 2007, 10:07:53 pm
well if its in llangynog thats ok of course lol!

no if people ask me ill always say yes. but arent gonna go chasing people

as i said that phone conversation went

me : hiya my names matt, im a window cleaner
wife: it the window cleaner
husband in background: ok
me: ok so youd like your windows cleaning?
wife: would we like our windows cleaning?
husband in background: yes
me: ok ill pop around this week
wife: this week
husband in background: no not this week
me: ok
wife: can you come in the evening?
husband in background: no not in the evening
wife: can you come at the weekend
husband in background: no not at weekend
im just listening to this conversation
me: im working away for a week now. give me a call...bye bye

tiring!
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 21, 2007, 10:18:38 pm
idiot! he asked me to get somebody......i'll tell him he wasted your time!!!!! why ask for a wc if you dont want one ::)
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: LWC on October 21, 2007, 10:20:14 pm
dont say anything mate...let him come to us
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 21, 2007, 10:21:15 pm
no, just joking i wont say anything! luke
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: LWC on October 21, 2007, 10:21:45 pm
lol i was gonna say!  :P

have to meet up soon buddy  ;)
Title: Re: Anti WFP van
Post by: Tristan R Clean on October 22, 2007, 07:37:24 pm
I work in Scarborough,Whitby area so i am familiar with the firm. ::)

Tristan