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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: *paul_moss on October 15, 2007, 07:39:28 pm

Title: NCCA
Post by: *paul_moss on October 15, 2007, 07:39:28 pm
Noticed NCCA has been quiet recently, also noted that a few of its Directors have left during this year.
Has something happened?
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: lands on October 15, 2007, 10:11:28 pm
No-one has got the balls to answer this. Me, I'm just not qualified.
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on October 15, 2007, 10:21:29 pm
I'm in enough trouble as it is!

Shaun
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: lands on October 15, 2007, 10:46:21 pm
I'm in enough trouble as it is!

Shaun

Nothing wrong with having an opinion Shaun.
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on October 15, 2007, 10:47:12 pm
Is it the opinion of THAT establishment (you know the one!)

Shaun
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: lands on October 15, 2007, 10:48:18 pm
aye
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: David_Annable on October 15, 2007, 10:49:19 pm
Hi

They have just cancel the AGM, presumable through lack of interest.

Dave
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on October 15, 2007, 10:56:46 pm
it's the wrong time of year for an AGM in our business IMO too many dodgy Mancs trying to rough up the coffin dodgers and do them out of their carpet cleaners pensions, hey Dave?

Shaun
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: David_Annable on October 16, 2007, 01:10:17 pm
Hi

Take your pick

"Were only pensioners"

"Its only a very small room"

"Its not really dirty"

"It wont take you long"

"Is there an OAP discount"

"I can't smell wee"

Dave
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: Ken Wainwright on October 16, 2007, 07:11:22 pm
Hi Paul

Which Directors have left during the last year?

At the Board meeting a few weeks ago there were the same number as at the AGM last year, except for Derek Bolton who has only gone into semi-retirement, plus we had a new candidate who may well join the Board in the near future.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on October 16, 2007, 07:14:36 pm
and that's told you :o

Shaun
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: stevegunn on October 16, 2007, 07:30:40 pm
Haven't had a newslink for a while too
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: Mike Halliday on October 16, 2007, 07:32:21 pm
just out of interest, whats the average age of the board members?

Mike
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: *paul_moss on October 16, 2007, 07:33:27 pm
Ken
I heard Robert had also left.
I may of misheard.
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: *paul_moss on October 16, 2007, 07:34:09 pm
Mike
I think its 103  :D
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: Daveyboy on October 16, 2007, 09:15:10 pm
Got my News Link today with an explanation of the cancelled AGM.
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: FiberReviver on October 16, 2007, 10:46:34 pm
WELL ARE YOU GOING TO TELL OR ARNT YOU ALLOWED  ??? ??? ;D
FREDDIE
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on October 16, 2007, 10:54:47 pm
It's because of lack of interest. It's hard to butter an AGM up when folk are busy or there's not alot happening.

For all of the directors hard work they are still running their own businesses but from an outsider looking in the NCCA does look as though it is slipping back to old ways on the 'moving forward' front.

Shaun
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: Ken Wainwright on October 17, 2007, 01:50:25 pm
Which Robert is that Paul?

The only one I can think of is Robert Olifent, and that was during the last century.

As for average age, I honestly don't know. And I don't think that the female Director would tell us her age ;)

Does this age thing mean we'll have to rename our CEO "Ming the Mercyless?"

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: David Ware on October 17, 2007, 06:54:26 pm
I'am a member of the NCCA and one of the guilty people that have'nt shown the kind of support that that board deserves and needs to drive them on. Don't knock them, they have given more free advise, either directly or indirectly by passing on good info to 3rd parties. Cock up of 3 piece suites, stain removal, spotting advise to say a few. My view is any person that wants to clean furnishings as a living should join and improve this trade association.

David Ware
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: elliott cleaning on October 17, 2007, 07:59:15 pm
Is this a thread to have a pop at the NCCA?   Not being a member, I can't really comment.

What's the alternative - IICRC or Proclean?  Or are these not active anymore?

Perhaps some of the above posters should form a new association with a bit more 'pizzaz' to it!!!!  No doubt directors in the 20/30 age group and preferably female with.......
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: *paul_moss on October 17, 2007, 08:08:10 pm
No not a pop at NCCA as there is no need to ever do that to an organisation that in my eyes is very good to our industy.
I started the thread as I was wondering what was happening with them going forward.At the begining of the year there was a lot of talk about changes and driving it forward,I know Derek had left rcently and thing just seemed quiet with them recently.
Just interested to see in what direction there taking.
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: Ian Gourlay on October 18, 2007, 06:29:04 am
There have been attemts to form new organizations.

I did join one that was on Ebay and so did one or two others from the various boards but that died.

There is an organization called SCCF or somthing that Chris Browne, Art, and Andy A  have started  which has lasted.

The Window Cleaners were successful in starting a rival to the established organization andone of  the Moderators of the Window Cleaning Section appears to hold high office.

I believe The IICRC conference  was also canceled

I do wonder how many people actually attend advertised courses as often I try to book one and get told its been canceled.

Last year I went to an open day of a company on the First Day and there was only a few people there, and none of the billed events were taking place, and allI had to look at was a truckmount.  I was told I should have come on second day. 
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: woodman on October 18, 2007, 10:12:20 am
Ian

The CCDO was a huge success as have previous ones, where they get it wrong is in the content 'whats on show' or to be discussed.It has to be of interest somewhere on the day to someone and it has to be fun.

This proves that there is a need and a want for events such as these and its a great way to network with other CC's. I advertised the event on the boards only and the response was great so much so that I had to limit the numbers.

I doubt after putting yourself to turn up at the event you describe above if you will ever attend another put on by the same organisation.

I could go for ever about the IICRC  ::) but in short compare it to a customer you have that you never contact (ever) and then ring up and ask for more business from her/him what sort of reply can you expect and in all probability get.

If the NCCA could incorporate an event in to a CCDO open to all then I think they would crack it in my opinion.  ;)


Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: Ken Wainwright on October 18, 2007, 10:34:04 am
Trevor

You are so right in your overview of these events.

Speaking only of the NCCA events, we have found that the Technical Roadshows have been a bit better than OK as far as response is concerned. The Factory Tours and Workshops have had superb responses.

The AGM is a bit of a different animal. We need to plan roughly half a day for the AGM, that leaves half a day for the attractions and networking. This is very limiting.

A few years ago, the AGM was held at Carpex. The show attracted more members and others than we could have coped with, but being an all day event, the AGM attendance was appauling :(  So as you can all see, an AGM is a very difficult event to organise and balance well.

Me and Pawlo (NCCA's CEO) had a recent brainstorming session and Pawlo came up with what I think is a great idea for a themed event to accompany the AGM. We'll thrash it out at the next Board Meeting and let you know afterwards what's happening.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Title: Re: NCCA
Post by: Ian Gourlay on October 18, 2007, 11:47:14 am
I would just like to clarify it was not a trade organization.

But i try not to name companies on Forums as others may take a diffrent view and my view might not be fair on the people concerned.