Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: David Ware on October 31, 2004, 11:53:24 am
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Hi
Have been doing test trails with different fabric protectors on my furniture at home to see how much bead up of water there is after applying the protector. So far have been disappointed with the results. How many CC have done similar tests and what sort of results have you had.
David Ware
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i,ve done some test with 3 different types of protector on carpet samples and not one of them has immpressed me ???
neil
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Hi Guys
Good to see that you are taking things seriously and testing at home.
You also need to consider the substrate and the fibres that you are treating...some perform better than others...doesn't mean they are not protected if you don't see a bullet proof bead up
Cheers
Derek
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when you are selling protector you can get the blotter cards and show the bead up on it, but this is not always the case on carpeting, are we then misleading the client?
I know Nick at Solutions UK is looking to do a course on it in the new year also Dry Fusion have a new protector out that even protects polypropolene I'd like to see that!
I would like to see a 5 years old carpet cleaned and then protected and then assess it's beeding qualities.
Shaun
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Shaun
The Nuva treatment is applied to Polypropylene ..this treatment also contains an anti bacteria product.
It is this side treatment that adds the additional benefit to Polypropylene for the customer not the protector itself albeit it a fluorochemical treatment will give some resistant to oil based stains. The downside is the risk of making the fibres sticky as the protector may not cure, this may also result in white residual staining.
As we all are aware Polypropylene is inherently stain resistant except to oil based stains.
Derek
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I recently protected a new carpet with solugard. 3 weeks later got a call from customer who had spilled ribena on it, and tried to blot out with kitchen roll. It had left a mark with was a right sod to get out.
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Interesting topic as most customers who are interested ask, is it really anygood :-\
I have also been dissapointed with most stain protectors even the description you have be carefull with such as , Stainblockers,stain resistant, stain proof, as the customer will come back if they have a spill they can't remove and say," but you said it was stainblocked".
Always qualify what you say, I just always tell them 'its not bullet proof' but will aid in protecting the carpet against soiling and help in the removal of soiling when next cleaned.
I never use the blotting cards as IMO they are misleading.
I did a test on a Silk Rug which I showed at Watford using one half Soluguard and the other unprotected, I think most will agree that the results when tea and water was thrown on it was better than most.
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I have had some good results with Solugard.
Good beading up clients seem quite impressed
Nick
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instead of having a poll perhaps people would like to put down which protector they use and why, this could work for those who use several products and be good educational material for future members and new business's.
Shaun
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I mostly use Promite Protector and am very impressed with it. A couple of weeks ago I did an annual clean and protect of a lounge/dining carpet. Six months previously I had carried out a routine HWE maintenance clean of the same carpet, without . Anyway this time as I was applying the pre spray, a lot of it was beading up on the surface, even though it was last protected a year before and had, had the maintenance clean since.
Dave.
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Derek I was refering to 'Fibreloc' from DF. I would have thought they would have sent you the info but may be you have to be a Fusioneer to get it? But
From Copy
Fibreloc doesn't just perform on nylon 6, 66 and wool fibres. The unique Fibreloc technology provides strong adhesion even to polypropylene and to 100% polyester, polyamide or polyester cotton fabrics and linens.
Shaun
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Thanks Shaun
Not being a 'fusioneer' I am unable to test this products performance.
I would love to see tests carried out with this product on Polypropylene as the technology seems to work on the 'reverse logic' principal.
I have, over many (too many) years found that the 'reverse logic' principal works often against all the odds.
The name 'reverse logic' came into my life from a guy who worked for us many years ago, he had an extensive chemical background.
At the time I had developed a new technique of carrying out a particular job which he said couldn't possibly work. Even when demonstrated to him he still couldn't/wouldn't believe it and had to carry out the duty himself before being (almost) convinced... a lot of head shaking took place!!!
"Seeing is believing" as they say
Derek
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reverse logic comes from the latin meaning fe-male
Derek it's not like you to not know about a new product, things must be slipping hope it's not a disc at your age :P
Shaun
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Shaun
The 'discs' are OK.....if I can remember where I put them ;) ;D
As I said I am not a fusioneer and to merely purchase and try a product without the 'true' application method wouldn't be fair to the product or the supplier.
I shall have to speak to the 'Marigold man' nicely and see if he will treat me a piece...before and after style
Cheers
Derek
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Further to my original question about how effected protectors were on fabrics.The 3 protectors that I tested on polyester/cotton did not give very good results.I've recently re-cleaned a polyester/cotton 3-p-s that I did 3 years ago,before I started to clean I tested the arms and base cushion to see if any beadup was there,surprise-surprise after 3 years there was good beadup.The product that I used then was Chemspec Enviroshield. Thanks Julie time tells
David Ware