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Title: 60ft pole in action
Post by: stevekennedy on October 06, 2007, 05:57:05 pm
Here is me cleaning a castle at 60ft with the ergolite.

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p155/stevekennedy/Craigievar60ftpole.jpg)
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: LWC on October 06, 2007, 05:58:49 pm
CRIKEY !!!  :o

how does it feel up there? is it lite? how much was it?
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Post by: Majestic on October 06, 2007, 05:59:20 pm
Can you reach the top window as well .
Which castle is it
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Post by: Sir Squeaky on October 06, 2007, 06:02:16 pm
Hate to tell you this Steve, but if you look closely that window below the one you're cleaning is open.
You can see by the frames close together.

I did that on a pub last month.
Nice interior flood. ;D
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: Jeff Brimble on October 06, 2007, 06:06:14 pm
How high is the one in the turret ?
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: Majestic on October 06, 2007, 06:09:51 pm
Are you fully extended
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Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 06, 2007, 06:13:48 pm
Cherubs, I thought you said the 60ft Ionics has no bend, this is against a building and you can see the bend! Luke

LWC, it weighs 7.5KG
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: stevekennedy on October 06, 2007, 06:17:42 pm
I'm pretty much fully extended. I couldn't quite reach the next floor.  :(

The Castle is Craigievar Castle in Aberdeenshire.

It does look like the window is open but we checked them all before starting and that one is painted shut.

The very highest window on the castle is on a turret round the corner from where I am cleaning. It is at just short of 80ft  :o

The pole is ok to handle if you keep it fairly vertical. If you stand back too far though it becomes harder to balance but moving it up and down is easier
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 06, 2007, 06:19:35 pm
Alan ( Anglers Emporium ) was selling a Maver fishing poles that could reach 70ft, Also Tucker do a 83ft pole, Luke
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: stevekennedy on October 06, 2007, 06:23:53 pm
The tucker is a total DUD. You need three people (one on the roof with a rope beleive it or not) to make it safe as it is totally uncontrollable IMO. It should be banned as could be really dangerous >:(

The ergo has no bend when vertical but about 2-3ft at 30 degrees.

You should see a universal 60ft! It has so much bend that the top of the pole is vertical and the handle is horizontal  :o  They are tough though  ;)
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: brightnclean on October 06, 2007, 06:51:52 pm
Cherubs, I thought you said the 60ft Ionics has no bend, this is against a building and you can see the bend! Luke

LWC, it weighs 7.5KG

OK  OK so you got a Superlight thingy. Give it a rest will ya. Any pole will have some bend at this sort of height. If a window is dirty the weight of the pole actually helps to get a better clean at real height. Calm down young Jedi. Horses for courses and all that.
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: Sir Squeaky on October 06, 2007, 06:56:37 pm
I know what you mean.

Even when I'm using the SL2 at 15-20ft, it doesn't feel like you're really scrubbing the dirt off like with the heavier fibreglass pole.

I'm sure pure water loosens the dirt fine, but you do wonder sometimes.
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Post by: Alex Gardiner on October 06, 2007, 07:35:15 pm
Great picture stevekennedy.

Badly designed castle though- no drip ledges above the window apertures!
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: Alex Gardiner on October 06, 2007, 09:11:31 pm
Cherubs, I thought you said the 60ft Ionics has no bend, this is against a building and you can see the bend! Luke

LWC, it weighs 7.5KG

OK  OK so you got a Superlight thingy. Give it a rest will ya. Any pole will have some bend at this sort of height. If a window is dirty the weight of the pole actually helps to get a better clean at real height. Calm down young Jedi. Horses for courses and all that.
I know what you mean.

Even when I'm using the SL2 at 15-20ft, it doesn't feel like you're really scrubbing the dirt off like with the heavier fibreglass pole.

I'm sure pure water loosens the dirt fine, but you do wonder sometimes.

The ability to scrub a window properly has more to do with the bristle density, texture, and stiffness than it does the weight of the pole.

When specifying a brush for the Super-Lite we realised that a soft bristle brush was vital to ensure excellent cleaning with minimal pressure. The brush we use never feels like you are working hard enough on the glass but always ends up cleaning better than a Vikan/Salmon etc.

We also have in the workshop some natural-fibre bristle brushes, such as horse and pigs hair and these are amazing but also very expensive. They are soft but efficient. In the practical world you can can get almost as good a result from artificial fibres and at a much more realistic price.

On a castle or stately home such as above you really do not want to be putting too much weight on antique irreplaceable glass! We clean a stately home and the glass is so thin that the weight of an ordinary pole would almost be enough to shatter it.
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Post by: chrismroberts on October 06, 2007, 09:47:00 pm
WOW.... that is amazing. I know this has all been discussed before, so sorry to sound a bit green... but do you lift brush off to rinse??  ???
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Post by: Peter Fogwill on October 06, 2007, 10:55:57 pm
WOW.... that is amazing. I know this has all been discussed before, so sorry to sound a bit green... but do you lift brush off to rinse??  ???

If it is the last job for the week and it is only Monday, or if your wife is a nag, or you just want to waste some time, or your using the wrong brush, or you want a couple of weeks off work with a dodgy back, then yes you lift your brush off the window to rinse.  If your time is valuable, you are desperate to get home to see the wife, or if it is only Monday and you have a full weeks work ahead of you, and your using the right brush, and you don't want to put extra strain on your back, then no keep the brush on the glass.

Peter
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: NWH on October 06, 2007, 11:33:35 pm
I use mainly mono brushes and hardly ever lift off to rinse,the only time i lift off to rinse is if there small panes that give little bits of paint left after scrubbing,other than that i mainly rinse on the glass.Peter what brush-brushes do you use.
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: Peter Fogwill on October 06, 2007, 11:46:12 pm
NWH,  I use the Salmon brush, yet to find a better one.

Peter
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: NWH on October 07, 2007, 12:06:37 am
I use the 9" salmon,can you supply me with these.Medium to soft grade bristle,i think they might have stopped making them but i thought you might still have some.
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: Peter Fogwill on October 07, 2007, 01:22:41 am
I use the 9" salmon,can you supply me with these.Medium to soft grade bristle,i think they might have stopped making them but i thought you might still have some.

I do have them.  Have you tried the 11" ones? the bristles are even softer.

Peter
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: chrismroberts on October 07, 2007, 02:51:46 pm
WOW.... that is amazing. I know this has all been discussed before, so sorry to sound a bit green... but do you lift brush off to rinse??  ???

If it is the last job for the week and it is only Monday, or if your wife is a nag, or you just want to waste some time, or your using the wrong brush, or you want a couple of weeks off work with a dodgy back, then yes you lift your brush off the window to rinse.  If your time is valuable, you are desperate to get home to see the wife, or if it is only Monday and you have a full weeks work ahead of you, and your using the right brush, and you don't want to put extra strain on your back, then no keep the brush on the glass.

Peter

Yeh I guess it was a silly question... I just know someone who does some work at that height and he always says he lifts off to rinse. Would give me a hernia!!  :-\

So can you do that with the mono filament vikans?
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: stevekennedy on October 07, 2007, 03:23:04 pm
At 60 ft you DO NOT want to lift off to rinse. You might kill someone and injure your back. You must use the right kind of brush. We use an ionics DT brush and they are very good. However, if the glass is VERY hydrophobic and is very high. I angle the brush head.
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: macmac on October 07, 2007, 05:51:09 pm
NWH
You can buy any salmon brush you like from most hygine suppliers on the net. ;)

tony
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: john tomkins on October 07, 2007, 08:30:14 pm
NWH
You can buy any salmon brush you like from most hygine suppliers on the net. ;)

tony

Yeah you want B1058 (soft bristles) or B1059 (stiff bristles) range from about £4 to £6 but the P&P on most of the sites is heafty one charges £12 :o
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: NWH on October 07, 2007, 08:47:31 pm
No you can`t,you try ordering the brush i`m on about and you`ll have no joY.
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: john tomkins on October 07, 2007, 09:28:09 pm
No you can`t,you try ordering the brush i`m on about and you`ll have no joY.

Give us a clue as to the code?????
I can't go by a 9" salmon medium to soft grade ;D
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: NWH on October 07, 2007, 09:40:43 pm
Don`t know the code for the 9" but i don`t think they do a soft version anymore.
Title: Re: 60ft pole in action
Post by: cherubs cleaning on October 09, 2007, 07:30:51 pm
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wyh have you taken my posts of


it seems to me that this is one sided



jerry