Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: keith b on September 29, 2007, 06:24:28 am
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Hi all,
Please can you help!
What cleaning products do you use to rid shower cubicles & walls of body fat? and are they any good?
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have a look for bonamain products we use these for swimming pools, showers etc bonamain + is probably the best most suppliers will stock this.
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Hi
Yep.
Squirt Viakal all over tiles, shower screen (if present) and tiles. Wipe over then scrub with a scourer, leave for a few mins and then rinse with shower head.
Wipe, dry & buff with kitchen towels.
Job done.
Did one recently in a communal shower used by 14 Poish builders, the walls had huge orange patches, which turned out to be mature body fat & other 'juices'.
Viakal £1.83 from Tesco's
Regards
Martin 8)
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Thanks Lea & Martin!
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sorry i know i am very naive but what the hell is body fat?jhow the hell does it end up on walls????
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Dg
Body fat = it is what it sounds like, its greases and fats and all that gunk that you wash off yourself in a shower.
I think its an unpleasent term, but its one that is widely used in our trade
Stephen
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hi
Any household based product should do - have a look in wilko's for a all-purpose cleaner.
Paul
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hi
the same sort of greese can be found on door handles.
Paul
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I never heard it referred to as that lol but anywho that nasty ring round the bath and stuff and shower cubicles, what i use is vim, it's really good and powerfull stuff and pretty cheap, something like 99p in wilko's.I really scrub baths and I know it sounds really sad but I love the satisfaction when a grimy bath or shower cubicle is sparkling!Another really good and cheap product is wilko's own multi purpose its only like 35p a bottle, very thick and strong, good for bath scum.
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hi
The body fat and other 'Juices' accumalate over a period of time, it starts out as a slight discolouration and sticks to tiles and the bath, if it is not cleaned for a long time it get thicker and starts to look like a greasy residue.
The one I mentioned was orange, man, I almost retched while I was doing it.
I try not to use powders when I can, like Vim, as it can scratch the surface, but sometimes you have to. If a chrome bath is really bad with stains etc, i will use Bar Keepers Friend, which is great kit.
Regards
Martin 8)
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We use the orange cillit bang but rather than buff dry have been using window cleaning blade to remove and dry on shower screens and other flat surfaces.
Save loads of time.
Simon
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Apologies for putting a dampener on the discussions, but I have noticed that many of you are using domestic cleaning agents to provide commercial cleaning services, such as Viakal, vim, cilitBang and Wilko own label, I was always taught "Safety First" whilst it may be cheap now it may end up costing you more in the long run, as occupational health legislation requires you (as the business owner ) provide your workforce with adequate training, health and safety literature, including COSHH assessments, method statements and risk assessments for all works undertaken. It may seem like a minor point but the best way to prevent an accident is to prepare, the last thing you want is environmental health on your back following an incident or worse still cause injury to your employees or customers.
New legislation has been passed introducing commercial manslaughter and a crime punishable by imprisonment for the business owner / operators, you have a duty of care
If you need cleaning chemicals always buy from a reputable source, they should offer MSDS sheets, often they will provide training or dilution advise, as with all chemicals follow the manufacturers instructions and always brief the users before application.
Best regards, Geoff
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Hi
Please explain to me the difference betwwen, limescale remover from a supplier and Viakal?
Why are products from tesco and other supermarkets not safe? Are you implying the superstores are putting millions of lives at risk by selling the products they sell? Are you saying that by using Viakal rather than a 5 ltr equivelent is somehow going to kill my clients?
They are the same thing and do the same thing.
These are chemical products and COSHH is available is you ask for it or need it.
As I have said before, use a product before you put it down. I have used both and prefer Viakal, used it for 4 years.
Martin 8)
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Hi
Please explain to me the difference betwwen, limescale remover from a supplier and Viakal?
The price i expect ;D thats why i dont often use specialist suppliers and products
Stephen
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Geoff
Sorry too to put a dampner on things, but when so many 'store-brand' products are made by the same people who make 'branded' products, you do end up thinking 'whats the point'?
What are the 'reputable' sources that you speak of? What exactly is the problem in using products that have been designed for and sold in shops and supermarkets? There is a lot of cleaning stuff out there that is marketed as 'commercial' and yet some of it is just a waste of hard-earned money and has only been sold as 'commercial' because there are people who will buy it and pay the price for it.
What is the difference in going into Asda and buying the same brand-name product that you will find in the cleaning wholesalers, albiet a lot cheaper in the supermarket.
At the end of the day no one really knows just how 'safe' ANY cleaning product is (and i suspect that in years to come it will emerge how dangerous certain products actually were) but what can you do? Everytime i get in the car to drive to a house to clean i runn the risk of being injured or killed. Everytime i mop a floor i risk slipping over. Everytime i use a vacuum cleaner there is a risk i might get an electric shock. I've given up wondering where to draw the line.
I am not going to believe anyone who says that product X is 'safer' than product Y because no one knows for sure. And i bet the same discussion will be batted around the forums of people who do gardening, or painting and decorating, they'll all be debating the true dangers of the products we work with.
Sometimes i wish i still smoked (4 years next month, i still can't belive i stopped ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D) because most smokers don't really care what they inhale as they say that nothing will be worse than the fAgs and seeing how that doesnt bother them.......well, what can i say?
Overall i dont worry unduly about the products i use, whats the point?
Stephen
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I had an issue with body fat a few years ago when cleaning some slate tiles around a private swimming pool, the standard cleaner wouldn't youch it even when scrubbed with a rotary, I simpley applied Chemspec Enzall enzme digester on them and the fat disapeared in mins there was no nead to scrub , we just rinsed the area with a preasure washer! end of problem
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We invested in a steam vacumn machine for these sort of jobs, no chemicals needed and it sterilzes it allas well. Not cheap but with all these differant chemicals being used you are never to sure. Work has also increased once people know you can clean "enviromently friendly"
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I find star drops is cheap and effective on stubborn stains too,something like 56p a bottle from wilkinsons!
You can still get data sheets for these products by writing to the address on the back. I cover domestic cleaning and all the other domestic cleaners I know in the area use supermarket brands also.
Geoffderby out of interest are you a cleaner or a supplier ;D
At the end of day if you do your risk assessments properly, educate your staff about health and safety and correct use of the household cleaners, where is the harm? These things are sold in supermarkets every day so they are safe if used correctly, just as safe as buying from a commercial supplier!
After all they don't put anything different in the 5 litre container of FLASH from the commercial supplier than they do in the smaller bottles of asda!!!